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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:19 AM
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Msnbc poll Do you support the draft to win in Iraq
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/ When I voted it was 68%no 32%yes
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:24 AM
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1. always that 32%, who the hell are they?
Edited on Wed Apr-21-04 10:25 AM by Mari333
must not care about dead soldiers, or dying children. Delusionary fools.
Im glad the word "draft" is being brought up. Bout damn time. Let the rest of the public start shaking in their drawers like we have been shaking since they took Michael to this bloodbath.
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stitz58 Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:32 AM
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6. they are morons who
don't have children of draft age. It's pretty easy to say yes then.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:33 AM
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7. good point...
... there is a disconnection between civilian Americans and the Iraq quagmire. People in my office consistently use phrases like "we are doing this in Iraq" and "we are gonna fix that in Iraq"

Where the hell is this "we" stuff coming from? They sit on fancy chairs, getting paid for their jobs, growing fat, pissing and moaning about liberals, and they aren't lifting one finger to do a damn thing in Iraq. They aren't sending food, money, or other support. They aren't putting on a uniform and facing the terror. They aren't doing one damn thing but paying taxes, which they'd be doing anyway if the Iraq thing never came up. That argument doesn't hold water for me. It makes me ill.

Now that the "d-word" is showing up, they are all getting nervous for their children, cousins, nieces and nephews. So yeah, let them quake, let them see what the rest of the world sees and fears. My countrymen and women need to wake up and smell the blood, sweat and tears.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:11 PM
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19. keep pushing www.bushdraft.com
I hate people like that too...if someone starts whining to me, I just tell them "your kid is next, get ready"
and they are next. I guess its going to take the draft to wake their sorry asses up.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:26 AM
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2. WHO SAYS WE WILL WIN?????? n/t
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 11:48 AM
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16. It depends on the meaning of the word win
We already have won the oil fields and now control all their oil. what else do we need to win? The hearts and souls of the Iraqi people? Paleease.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 11:50 AM
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17. You nailed it
Edited on Wed Apr-21-04 11:50 AM by Jacobin
We had 550,000 troops in Vietnam and it didn't work.

If we had 2 million troops in Iraq we could permanently repress them with thousands of casualties a year.

We will NEVER "win". Westerners are infidels to them.

Pulling my hair out at the total idiocy of this country and its "leaders"(sic)
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:26 AM
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3. I don't think there is a "win" in Iraq.
There's no way to get out of it clean. Draft or no draft, Iraq is going to be a mess for years, and we tax payers have no choice now but to shoulder that burden. It doesn't matter who wins in '04 (should be Kerry IMO), it's a curse for the US now.

Who, exactly, are we fighting? Insurgents? Rebels? Revolutionaries? A bit of all of that? No one knows. What we do know, is that the military is not well suited to combat terrorism so adding troops to Iraq to fight terrorism (if that's what we are fighting) won't help anything.

So I don't support the draft, because we aren't helping Iraq now, how will adding more troops clean up anything? Iraq needs basic services and confidence that we are there to help them, the don't need more troops there enforcing curfews and performing questionable search and seizures of the people there. Now, if the draft was for civil services, which it isn't, that would be a different conversation.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 06:05 PM
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24. Winning is getting out alive.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:28 AM
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4. Why did they try to qualify the draft
by saying to win in Iraq? The question is; Is Iraq all there is to it?
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:30 AM
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5. Looks Like Freepers Aren't Too Willing to Send Their Kids
either.


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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:36 AM
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8. when repugs
who say they support the draft.tell them that the security firms like Black water are hiring in Iraq and they can help in Iraq to kill all they want.they wouldn't be military.so they could go on their very own hunting trip.expenses paid....by the oil companies
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:44 AM
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9. Kick
please go vote. The link is provided
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 11:04 AM
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10. .
70/30 against
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 11:09 AM
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11. how about
i don't support the draft OR the hostilities in iraq!
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 11:11 AM
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12. Done. n/t
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 11:14 AM
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13. done
70% no
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:35 PM
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My rights to privacy is in tact, I casted a secret ballet
....and much to my surprise everyone agrees with everyone except those psychoneurotic and trust me I ain't fucking nuts!
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 11:23 AM
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14. The draft would ruin the entertainment value
And make it too personal, then it would cease to be reality tv entertainment for the moron masses.

We live in a nation of ghouls.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 11:33 AM
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15. define "win"
another moronic poll - save your bandwidth
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:02 PM
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18. 70% No, 30% Yes
Wouldn't it be great if we could just draft everyone who said yes? Problem solved.

Reminds me of a line from a Woody Allen movie (I think "Love & Death"): "If our side kills more people, we win. If your side kills more people, you win", to which Woody replied: "What do we win?"

This is so futile, there can be no winning in this war and the situation will only get more and more out of hand the longer we persist. :grr:
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:25 PM
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20. my reply to MSNBC
Absolutly not, my son's are not cannon fodder so that Cheney and his friends can get richer. Bush, who dodged his draft duty, has no right to demand that our children die for his greed and lust for power.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:35 PM
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21. Either they took the poll off or I am just not seeing it.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:44 PM
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22. I'm voting "yes"!
If people see there's support for a draft, it'll scare the living shit out of them.

As it should.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 06:00 PM
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23. Voted Yes!!
Let's scare the middle class....Then people will have an opinion on the war real quick...lol
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