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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 02:10 PM
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Why is the concept of "odd and even" a philosophical illusion?
I keep hearing this commercial on AAR. Anyone know?
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 02:12 PM
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1. Why don't you tell me?
:)
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 02:12 PM
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2. is zero even or odd?
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 02:24 PM
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9. Zero is even.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Even_and_odd_numbers

Zero, of course, is divisible by every number, but because it's divisible by 2, it's even.
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Salviati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 02:13 PM
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3. I have no idea what they're talking about...
and I majored in math and physics. I suppose it is in the sense that everything is a philosophical illusion, but that's not very helpful.

They are correct as to why the sky is blue though.
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muchacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 02:15 PM
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5. except..
that violet has the shortest wavelength.
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Salviati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 08:08 AM
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15. True, but...
the sun does not emit light equally at all wavelengths, so there's not much violet light to be scattered, so we're left with blue...
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 02:32 PM
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14. Cresent fresh!
I love Sifl and Olly. I wish MTV would have kept them on.
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muchacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 02:14 PM
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4. What the epistemological problem involves
Edited on Thu Apr-15-04 02:15 PM by muchacho
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NormanConquest Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 02:15 PM
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6. Thanks for the link. nt
Edited on Thu Apr-15-04 02:34 PM by NormanConquest
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TheBlob Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 02:20 PM
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7. Don't know, but
"Never Odd Or Even" is a palindrome.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 02:24 PM
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I concur
A segment of double-stranded DNA in which the nucleotide sequence of one strand reads in reverse order to that of the complementary strand.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 02:21 PM
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8. Sounds like bullshit from people who don't know math
The odd natural numbers form a group under multiplication.

The even natural numbers fail to form a group under multiplications as they fail to have an identity element (there is no even natural number x, such that x*y=y, where y is an even natural number).

Stupid marketing fucks.
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mulethree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 02:24 PM
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10. too hard
Theres a right answer that would be real long.

Just measure your number more accurately and odd/even become meaningless. 4 is even, 3.999999999 and 4.000000001 are both odd?
So Integers are philosophical illusions
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 02:26 PM
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11. if you have 4 apples, it doesn't matter how accurately you measure
there are still going to be 4.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 02:26 PM
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12. UGH!! The Over-Acting Kid Has Been To TOO MANY AUDITIONS
I fucking HATE that affected "look what a cute kid I am" voice, ewweww....that poor kid must have some stage mom!
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 02:31 PM
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13. maybe try reading this
Edited on Thu Apr-15-04 02:32 PM by SheepyMcSheepster
http://radicalacademy.com/philaquinasmdw6.htm


A. What the epistemological problem involves

It has been indicated that the epistemological problem centers upon an inquiry concerning the validity of our spontaneous assertions. This inquiry resolves itself into two problems. First, the motive which leads the mind to establish a relation between a subject and a predicate in a judgment, and secondly, the validity of the respective terms themselves. Thus, when I say that a number is odd or even, or, that water boils at 100 degrees C., I may inquire:

* (a) What leads me to form a mental synthesis of number and odd or even; of water and boiling at 100 degrees C.?
* (b) What is the validity of these terms: number; odd; even; water; boiling? Are they mere mental products or do they refer to objects independently existent in an external world?

Aquinas does not formulate these two problems with modern precision, for he wrote at a time when idealism and scepticism were mere academic theses which no one took seriously; but his doctrine contains a solution of the two problems which we have indicated.

We will begin with the second, and his answer may be summed up as follows: "Our sense perceptions correspond to an external world, but their content is not adequate or complete. Again our abstract and general ideas (water, life, number, equality, etc.) correspond to a reality which is not solely a product of the mind, since it has been inferred from sense data."


it continues, this is no the whole peice.
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