Dean/Powell ticket?

[dean4america]

While I concede that Dean/Clark is my favored ticket to unseat Bush*, I was wondering what reaction would be to Dean (or, any of the other candidates, really), picking Powell as a running mate. Some have suggested a Dean/McCain ticket, which I just don't see happening. However, given Powell's current level of pissed-offness at Bush, the fact that he has a military/foreign policy background, and is (suffice it to say) a minority, it would sure make a big splash at the convention. Powell is centrist enough on the issues bring over centrist Repubs (though Dean may be able to do that by himself), and his quasi-opposition to the war (however messed up his position got dragged around) fits in decently (though not brilliantly) with Dean's position on the war.

In truth, I think Dean is the only candidate with the balls to do something like this, but stranger things have happened. I still like Clark as VP, though, but would certainly consider Powell in such a role.

Thoughts?

[JohnKleeb]

1. I dont see why

because didnt Powell deceive the nation as well? Granted hes not as bad imo as Bush and the others but imo having Powell as a running mate would kind of undermine the cause the Deannies worked hard for pardon me if I am wrong. I also think a general as vp isnt that important, a woman or a minority would be good imo.

[lazarus]

2. Powell?

The fact that he's a war criminal sort of makes me not want to ever vote for him. The fact that he lied to us and helped lead this country into an illegal and immoral war makes me not want to ever even have the opportunity to vote for him.

Powell is a bigot on top of all that. How he has any reputation amongst liberals is a continuing source of amazement for me.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

18. If Powell is a war criminal, so is Clark

If you take international law seriously, which most people don't, Clark would be a war criminal as well, not to mention Clinton and every president in my lifetime.

[charlie]

3. Powell is no free agent

He's Bushco through and through. After all the denigration and smackdowns he's endured, he still unfailingly goes to bat for those pricks. It's obvious he's a bought man. If he paired with a Democrat, it would only be as a Bushite plant.

[Tinoire]

4. Powell?! Are you (*&%ing me?

You're not serious are you?

Please, stick to Clark. You might get me in the voting booth with Clark but put Powell on the ticket and this baby will be running straight to the Green Party.

Only a cobra is at ease in a nest of cobras and My-Lai Powell is as nasty a cobra as the rest of them.

[dean4america]

5. pretty much the reception i was expecting

thanks for the feedback -- i'm not saying it's likely or necessarily advocating for it to happen, was just wondering out loud at what the response would be. btw, i agree on point that Clark is clearly the better of the two.

[Tinoire]

6. Good! Now stop giving me heart-attacks! :) n/t

[loyalsister]

7. Hell no!

He used the "prove a negative" justification for the war. No way in hell this guy has the credibility to be president. That was a quality Dean said he was looking for in a running mate. Besides that. If Powell is a closet Democrat he doesn't belong on a ticket that is proud to be Democratic.

[PurityOfEssence]

8. Powell is no better than von Ribbentrop

Make no mistake about it: this guy is filth. Propriety and pretense can deflect the eye, but he's a lying thug with a disgust for the weak and less humanity than your average pimp. That he's the best of this bunch says nothing.

Is this some idea of a cowardly Lieberthing move to salve the fears of those who think anyone who's even a CENTRIST like Dean is too left to be elected. (insert blood-curdling scream of incredulity here)

[imhotep]

9. gag

Powell and Clark can go fuck themselves.
I want change in this country, not more wars, more violence, more greed.

[stickdog]

10. It couldn't happen this term.

First, someone would have to beat Bush, and then issue another Emancipation Proclamation.

[tomp]

11. ev ery ticket needs a war criminal.

are you on drugs? i'm an "anybody but bush" person, but powell IS bush. i won't vote for him.

[Midwest_Doc]

12. How about a Gore/Clinton (HRC) ticket?

Gore won the first election, why can't he do it again? HRC will energize the electorate! IMHO

[librechik]

21. In my dreams!

oh, yeah. That ticket is only in the fictional version of this apocalypse.

[Must_B_Free]

13. Powell lied to us

never forget. he went on a roadshow to sell snakeoil.

[KG]

14. ARRGGHH!!! how deep does the powell myth need to be buried?

:grr:

please - get informed about mr. powell.

he isn't a 'moderate'. never was, never will be. he has no character. he has no soul. he has no conscience. he has nothing the dems should want to claim for thier own.

he's been a right wing errand boy since his start trying to cover up the My Lai massacre in Viet Nam.

forget the spin put out by bushco - he was never against the invasion of iraq. it was no surprise that he got up in front of the world at the UN and lied his ass off in order justify the illegal attack. it was just another example of his carrying water for his RW masters.

[koopie57]

15. I was curious,

what about a Dean/Sharpton ticket?

[onecitizen]

16. Dean/Powell????

Oh pleeeeezzeee!!! Powell is as big a liar as bush.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

17. Makes perfect sense

The ultimate centrist ticket. Two Republicrats.

[Terwilliger]

27. the ultimate centrist ticket is two republicans?

can we call Gephardt Republican too?

[hedda_foil]

19. For the love of God!

Everything you've just said is so repugnant (including neocon McCain, thank you very much) that it's breathtaking.

Just tell me, please, that you're not affiliated with the campaign. PLEASE!

[Perky]

20. I posted something similar

a few day ago... oddly right befroe the news about him not returning to Foggy Bottom...

Its a very winnable ticket,,,,but its not gonna happen. He made promises to his wife... and He is going to honor those commitments.....that soldier is just going to fade away.

[Woodstock]

22. I love the Dean/Clark ticket

They can't call Dean a left wing peacenik if Clark is the running mate.

[Sagan]

23. At one point, I could have seen that...

But Powell has displayed no integrity, no independent thought and none of the qualities that he supposedly had when he took the State Department.

The worst possible Colin Powell emerged once he was part of the Chimpministration, and he can no longer be considered anything remotely approaching an independent or moderate.

He is a footsoldier of the BFEE and should be treated as such.

[LuminousX]

24. Oh Please

Powell burned his credibility. Powell, once deserving of all sorts of respect, is deserving of nothing. He as supported the worst President the U.S. has ever seen. He has lied for Bush. He is less than significant in my book.

[ibegurpard]

25. I'll pass, thank you.

In fact, that would be something that would give me definite second thoughts about my support of Dean.

[Terwilliger]

26. No, and why would you even suggest anything like that?

Are you a Democrat?