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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 07:36 PM
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Saddam remnants? partial list of groups involved in the Iraq insurgency:
I found this in the middle of a long but very interesting piece on "Ideological Hegemony", lots of other interesting stuff here too.

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Western media rarely reports the names of the various groups engaged in the guerilla war against the US occupation. This aids the government’s propaganda that they are all “Saddam remnants” and “foreign terrorists.” Here is a partial list of groups involved in the insurgency:

*Active Religious Seminary *Al-Anbar Armed Brigades *Al-Faruq Brigades *Armed Vanguards of Mohammad's Second Army *Black Banner Organization *General Command of the Armed Forces, Resistance and Liberation in Iraq *General Secretariat for the Liberation of Democratic Iraq *Harvest of the Iraqi Resistance *Hasad al-Muqawamah al-'Iraqiyah *Iraqi Communist Party-Al Cadre *Iraqi National Islamic Resistance *Iraqi Resistance Brigades *Jihad Cells *Liberating Iraq's Army *Mujahideen Battalions of the Salafi Group of Iraq *Muslim Fighters of the Victorious Sect (aka, Mujaheddin of the Victorious Sect) *Muslim Youth *Nasserites *National Iraqi Commandos Front *Patriotic Front *Political Media Organ of the Ba‘ath Party (Jihaz al-Iilam al-Siasi lil hizb al-Baath) *Popular Resistance for the Liberation of Iraq *Saddam's Fedayeen *Salafist Jihad Group *Snake Party *Sons of Islam *Unification Front for the Liberation of Iraq *Wakefulness and Holy War *White Flags <12>

As one can see just by looking at the names on this list, there are a variety of different groups involved in the insurgency; they are not all “Saddam remnants” and “foreign terrorists” as the government claims. Most groups can be divided into three different factions: the loyalists (who are pro-Baathist/pro-Saddam), Islamists (who want to build a Muslim theocracy in Iraq), and nationalists (who are secular & anti-Saddam but want the US out). Examples of the loyalists include Saddam’s Fedayeen & Political Media Organ of the Ba’ath Party, of the Islamists Armed Vanguards of Mohammad’s Second Army & Al-Faruq Brigades, and of the nationalists General Secretariat for the Liberation of Democratic Iraq & Al-Anbar Armed Brigades.

Discovering this isn’t hard even if you have few resources, just search the web for “Iraqi insurgency” and you’ll discover plenty of information. The major news organizations, who have enough resources that they could actually go to Iraq and directly report on these groups if they wanted to, do not report on the facts of these groups because they rely almost entirely on government sources for their information about the insurgency, and government sources rarely mention the names or ideologies of these groups. The failure to report on these resistance groups further illustrates the media’s tendency to take government statements at face value.
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Ideological Hegemony: Thought Control in America

posted by Morpheus on Saturday April 03 2004 @ 10:08PM PST
http://www.infoshop.org/inews/stories.php?story=04/04/03/8936773
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 07:40 PM
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1. There was a time when the New York Times would analyze foreign...
affairs at that level. But I guess I date myself with remarks like that...
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 07:48 PM
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2. no sense in educating people..
:shrug:

thank heavens for the internet!
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 07:57 PM
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3. indeed, and there are many others
Edited on Sun Apr-04-04 08:00 PM by Aidoneus
Hizb al-Fadula, now the Jaysh al-Mahdi, Brigades of the Martyr Ahmad Yassin, Brigades of Ali, Brigades of the 1920 Revolution, Shiite Islamic Organization of the Revenge of God, etc..

Most of the resistance, including those in the so-called "Sunni Triangle", by now is anti-Saddam. The Salafis are the best organized, the nationalists most established, but as the months go by the fighting in the north may appear as a "placeholder" for the storm that will drown the occupyers in the south. Many of the "Saddam loyalists" are jockeying for position in the new occupation authority, ironically enough, the widely feared "Mukhabarat"/secret police especially so.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 07:58 PM
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4. It reminds me of the film "red dawn"
In the film, the soviet union invades the US and occupies a town
in the rocky mountain west. Many of the locals are taken away to
prison camp on suspicion of complicity with republican america...
and the film is about a small group of terrorists who wage a war
against the occupying forces. In the parlance of the film, they
are the freedom fighters who defend the nation.

By this article, those would be "natinoalists"... and most americans
should understand and respect such thinking given like in the film,
that they are defending "us" from an invader.

Chalmers Johnson suggests that in information war, we must control
what ameircans see, read and hear, as part of a total propaaganda
assault. No suprise they paint opposition to the occupation as
remnants.... no suprise at all...
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 08:09 PM
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5. why confuse the people with details or facts?
reduce the story to the desired 'message' and make it read like a comic book.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 08:30 PM
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6. Who is Morpheus?
And why does Morpheus think that those people expressing their displeasure of Bremer & Co belong to ANY tightly-organized group?

Recently I was at a traffic light when this pickup came barreling through, hit a small car and continued weaving its way down the road.
Cell phones came out.
Two cars chased after the perp and cornered him.
The lady in the vehicle was examined by people who claimed to know CPR.
Three people handed her papers with the license number of the hit and run vehicle.
One person started directing traffic.
And little old DulceDecorum, seeing that the tightly-organized group had the situation well under control, took a left turn and drove away.

My point is this,
when people respond to a situation out of NEED
and not as a response to the Wizard of Oz.

I really do not believe that any of those people actually knew each other before that accident occurred.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 09:33 PM
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7. I don't see where you found that
the writer was referring to a "tightly-organized group" Could you point this out for me? I had just the opposite impression.

-I don't know who Morpheous is, other than the person who this article.

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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-04-04 11:07 PM
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8. Morpheus is from "the matrix" trilogy
In the films, he is the "only" person who believes keanu reaves can
save the universe.. perhaps in real life as well.. :-)

Morpheus is "an optimist", "a believer"... someone who will set his
life on the line for an abstract love he knows in his heart but
not his mind.

I'm unclear the poster's reference to Morpheus as well, as his belief
is not destructive, and is rather like an american person who,
despite all evidence to the contrary, believes that america can
come back to great liberalism and goodwill without empire. Methinks
me means it that Morpheus is a "dreamer" and a shilly shally, a
panzy who has his head lost in myth and refuses to accept the facts.
Or that morpheus prefers simple messagess from the propaganda media.
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