'Overwhelming Response'...uh oh.

[Plaid Adder]

As horrible as the images from Fallujah are already, I am REAL nervous about what it is going to look like during and after this much-ballyhooed 'overwhelming response.' I mean I thought we were already using overwhelming force there. What do these people have in mind? Kill them all, let God sort them out?

OK, so what happens after our 'overwhelming response'? Whatever public support we might once have enjoyed--minimal though it no doubt is--is going to be transformed into violent hatred, because for all their blathering about being 'precise' and 'methodical,' you know and I know that it's going to wind up being a massive, all-guns-blazing, indiscriminate bloodbath. That's what they're winding us up for, and that's what they're gonna deliver.

That will probably play real well to a certain section of Bush's base, but it is not going to help the soldiers on the ground any.

Why, why, WHY do we always have to go down the SAME FUCKING ROAD? Is this not how it worked out in Vietnam too? "Overwhelming" military might unleashed against civilian population + increasingly outraged & radicalized resistance = long bloody war of attrition leading eventually to our army evacuating and calling it a draw.

This administration just fucks up and fucks up and all they know how to do to get them out of the hole they've blasted themselves into is blast some more.

@#$!!!,

The Plaid Adder

[Bertha Venation]

1. "Kill them all, let God sort them out?" That's a question?

That is precisely the Bushies' philosophy, SOP, intent in everything they do. If it's not meant to kill, literally, it's meant figuratively as they destroy the little people to build up their own.

Disgusting, evil administration.

[mhr]

2. A Modest Proposal To Solve The Problem - Posted Yesterday

To meet the challenges in Iraq, we should begin recruiting drives at all the southern baptist churches.

By sending the Christian Fundies to fight the Iraqis we can solve several problems at one time:

1. we get rid of the Christian Fundies here
2. we give the Muslims a worthy and biblical opponent
3. we get to elect a new Senate and House as Christian politicians resign to fight
4. we get special elections for president as * becomes the new Christian general fighting the heathens
5. we get an improved economy as non-Christians finally get jobs
6. there must be more ....

Think about the benefits. By sending the Fundies to the middle east, the US can return to normal because media giants like Rush will die on the vine as ratings plummet. Terrorism would definitely be contained to the Persian Gulf as waves of Christians constructively avenge their anger. America could once again become a peaceful nation as military budgets are reduced substantially since the Christians would be self financed through tithes. The list of benefits is almost infinite.

Think of it as the new crusades were only Christian Fundies can participate.

This would be a great test for the Fundies version of Christianity. It would also save a lot time for these people because they would not have to read all those left behind books waiting for the rapture. What better way to die than fighting for your faith on the devil's home turf!

Lastly, it would bring new meaning to that old hymnal standard, Onward Christian Soldiers.

(would a bunch of angry Fundies (Bush's Army) be an overwhelming response?)

[mopaul]

6. damn sensible proposals!

seriously, christian soldiers, armed to the teeth with hardware and holiness, spreading the joy of jesus with extreme prejudice. i know my brother the zealot would go. this would be a great way of weeding out the truly religious zealots who equate killing non christians with christ somehow. let them all blow each other to hell. all the irish shooting at each other over religion, the shiites and sunnis, the hindis and fundies, the violent muslims and violent jews in jerusalem, let em all kill each other off. this is what happens when religion concludes in it's ultimate expression:
mass murder

[AndyP]

3. even though

I think the mutilations were horrible, even for an occupied country, I fear what the admin will do as well. I hope they have the forsight to see that any sort of mass murder type of revenge will just result in more of the same. if it is true that this violence is only being carried out by a smaller faction then we need intelligence (hey remember that word Bush?) and we need to root them out. It may take time but to make our troops more safe we need to take the intelligent road on this one.

[gottaB]

4. Another DUer made the analogy to Lidice

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidice

Ugly stuff. Surely there's a reason retaliatory killings are frowned upon in international law. Hmmm. But if it slips the mind, there's still enlightened self-interest, right? Right?

[Az_lefty]

5. Bush is a nothing, in terms of understanding this situation.

The only way we're going to calm Iraq down is to rebuild the Iraqi army and have them do it. They are the only ones that can get on the inside and break up these groups of wacko's.

[Vickers]

7. We're gonna shock and awe 'em into loving us

:eyes:

The "domestic-battery-as-international-policy" approach to statesmanship.

And even more :eyes:

[Brotherjohn]

8. My response to that: We've finally got our very own Gaza Strip.

Are we bulldozing homes yet?

[Jacobin]

11. You may not believe this, but

the answer to your question is "yes". I've seen links to this practice to news articles here, for families of suspected insurgents.

Have to go look for the links.

[gottaB]

12. a few links

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3950111

http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2004/01/12/usint6921.htm

[Brotherjohn]

15. My GOD! And it's worked so well for Israel, hasn't it?

[zbdent]

9. Well, we got rid of their leader - so now why isn't Ann Coulter

running over there to immediately convert them to Christianity?

Someone should invite her to do it personally.

[Chitown_Dem]

10. indiscriminate bloodbath

My first thought when I saw that in the news about an "overwhelming response" was that innocent civilians in Fallujah will suffer for those murders. Violence begets violence. Where does it stop? If our leaders had any wisdom they might start asking themselves these questions. Unfortunately self-responsibility isn't the strong suit of anyone in this misadministration, and the violence will continue to escalate.

[damnraddem]

13. Maybe they decided to try 'overwhelming response' because ...

their policy of underwhelming propaganda wasn't working.

Look for 'shock and awe' targeted to Iraqi neighborhoods -- sure to win hearts and minds.

Or maybe by 'overwhelming response' they just mean a new Dubya campaign ad.

[Zech Marquis]

14. I think the Iraqisa are expecting this response too

the way Bremmer was fuming and spitting anger earlier, you just KNOW all of Iraq will be waiting for the US to "get revenge"--or whatever the freepers are calling for., and this massive repsonse will become a huge bloodbath on all sides. :scared: