MSNBC just shocked the hell out of me

[RummyTheDummy]

They read an email from someone offended over W's jokes about WMD. Mentioned 600 dead, offensive etc. Said they had several more emails saying the same thing.

"Point well taken" one of the anchors said.

[berner59]

1. saw it too....

They said they were from all over and how "could MSNBC air this and have a wall of heros..."

They said "point well taken"...wow...how many here emailed???

[Skip Intro]

6. Sent LTTE of my local paper about it

Been without cable for a few weeks now, so it didn't occur to me to send anything to cable outlets. But the local noon news show showed the clip, and the news anchor reporting the story seemed beside himself in amusement.

I fired off an email to that station, then wrote a letter to the editor of the local paper.

Its absolutely destestable. An awol coward sending troops to die for his wmd lies and then joking about it while they're being killed daily. How much more can it take for the bush supporters to wake the hell up? I can't imagine a more outrageous thing.

[RummyTheDummy]

7. That kind of response is the spark

Sometimes you can goad these people into talking about something, making it a story etc (for at least 24-48 hours) by emailing and MAKING it an issue. If you look at it in that context, every little bit matters.

Otherwise it's just a blip, if that.

[Ripley]

2. That sounds dismissive to me.

Like it's just a debate over some trivial detail.

WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE?? I think at least one talking head could muster up the indignant reaction to this the way they did when speaking about Clinton's sex life.

[RummyTheDummy]

4. Baby steps

The fact they would even acknowldege it is interesting in itself.

[Ripley]

5. Yeah, I suppose.

But look how low we have gone. We're to applaude the propoganda freaks because they "acknowledge" the Smirk's vulgar horrific humor?

Sheesh.

[prodigal_green]

8. There was outrage on CNN

Only one or two e-mails defended Bush. The vast majority were outraged. Jack Cafferty looked a bit shaken by the whole thing.

[BootinUp]

13. Cafferty has been saying some wierd

things lately, I think his faith in the Bushies is failing.

[Teaser]

34. Cafferty isn't so much a conservative

He's more of a curmudgeon. Often the two coincide, but curmudgeons can get crotchety about lots of things.

[skypilot]

10. Do you mean the "Point well taken" comment??

If that is what you are referring to as "dismissive" I have to say that I agree with you. I didn't see the report but when I read that line in the original post I immediately thought it sounded dismissive as if this is something they simply want to put to rest as soon as possible.

[Ripley]

12. Yes, that is what I meant.

I can just see their fakey "serious" faces saying "point well taken." While I'm sure they were earlier yukking it up over the Smirk's comedy act last night.

If any Democrat had joked about WMD's in that manner, it would be SCORNED in the newsmedia. For Keerist's sake, look how many times they played Dean's Scream speech and labelled it "bizzarre, unpresidential or just plain crazy." Yet do they replay the Smirk's joke 732 times? And label it "unpresidential, vulgar, profane, insensitive, inappropriate?"

Yech.

[RummyTheDummy]

18. I saw the actual comments live

And my take was that they seemed somewhat surprised people would object to it. It didn't come off as dismissive in any way to me. I guess you just had to be there.

[skypilot]

22. That they would be surprised...

...is an indication of just how fucked up and out of touch they are. Assholes.

[Ripley]

24. But that is what is so telling!!!

They were "surprised" that people would object to him making jokes about the horrific WMD's we were told to be in fear of for a year????????

What sane person would find that funny? This is not a game.

I guess I meant "dismissive" in the context of ending the conversation. Not discussing it any more in depth as with Dean's Scream which was discussed I think for an entire hour on Tweety.

[madaboutharry]

3. Molly Ivins said it well the other

day: "A C average isn't good enough for President."

[SmokeyBlues]

9. Point well taken? Maybe...

But earlier this morning two of the MSNBC talking goofs were yucking it up over *hole's evil performance last night. It seems they are only now donning their 'somber' expressions after receiving tons of email from irate viewers who know slime when they see it.

Fu*king media whores!

[mark11727]

14. Do you mean IMUS?

He's the only morning goof on MSNBC I know of...

Also (1) what joke did W make about WTC? (2) what does LTTE mean?

Thanks.

[tishaLA]

17. WMD, not WTC

[mark11727]

38. Oops. My bad.

[Ripley]

20. Link:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/03/24/national0016EST0401.DTL

[DancingBear]

36. LTTE= Letter To The Editior n/t

[mark11727]

39. Thanks. I'm getting it now.

[SmokeyBlues]

42. After Imus

It was the show after Imus hosted by a male and female. I'm sure they don't think of themselves as being 'goofs', but sometimes actions speak louder than words.

[Athame]

47. But he did joke about the WTC for months in the Trifecta comments

as in "Lucky me, I hit the Trifecta..." meaning that he would only run a deficit in the case of recession, war, or national emergency and he got all three. :puke:

and his arrogant, "Now, watch this drive." comment on the golf course just after an Israel bus bomb killed dozens is entirely within his (lack of) character.

The man is the epitome of asshole.

[historian]

15. who are these clowns?

do you have their names pls? If you do im writing to the sponsors to say i am boycotting their products as long as they continue to sponsor these cretins

[SmokeyBlues]

44. Unfortunately, I don't have names...

But it's the show that follows Imus in the Morning. All I know is that there was a male and female host who seemed to get a big fu*king hoot out of *hole's performance last night. In particular, they seemed to get the biggest kick out of the 'joke' about dumbsfeld's favorite teevee show being 'queer eye for the straight guy'.

What I found offensive, considering the insensitive comments about the WMDs, was the general happy-go-lucky attitude they had about the entire affair. Smiles abound as they were talking about some of the 'surprising' comments *hole made last night.

Then again, maybe I'm the one who fails to see the humor in *hole's routine last night.

[The Night Owl]

11. If Bushco starts getting criticized for joking about WMD...

I hate to say this, but... If Bush starts getting criticized for joking about WMD, he will simply remind everyone about Kucinich's joking about WMD. Of course, we all know that the difference between Bush and Kucinich is that Kucinich did not send soldiers on a pointless hunt for WMD that do not exist, but that point may be lost on the sheeple.

Anyway, if we are going to attack Bush for joking about WMD, we ought to at least prepare for the rebuttal.

[Ripley]

16. What did Dennis say?

I don't remember that.

[The Night Owl]

21. During one of the Democratic debates...

Kucinich joked that Bush wanted to launch Moon missions to look for WMD.

[Ripley]

27. Oh yeah, that.

Maybe that was inapproriate for Dennis to say that, but I believe he was pointing out the WMD's are not in Iraq and Bush's crazy distraction story about manned mission to the Moon was to keep the public from noticing the WMD's aren't there when they told us theyknew exactly where they were...Tikrit, Baghdad.

It is vastly different when Bush jokes about finding them, when he gave speeches to the Congress, US people, UN and in fact the World that he knew the WMD's were there and we were protecting ourselves. If it's funny now, why are soldiers still dying for the joke?

[redqueen]

28. Yes, it's far different for someone who argued there weren't any

and tried to stop the illegal, unnecessary war to joke about it than for the man who swore there WERE and sent soldiers to DIE to prove him wrong to try any attempt at levity.

[qanda]

19. There is no rebuttal, there is no defense...

And there is *nothing* funny about it! Bush* is classless and clueless.

[The Night Owl]

25. I understand that...

I am just trying to tell you what Bush's rebuttal will be.

[qanda]

31. Writing on the internet doesn't go over well

I understood where you were coming from, and I was just responding how I felt about whatever tactics they would try to use this time. Sorry about that.

[Bridget Burke]

23. What jokes by Kucinich?

Do you have a link?

Besides, the difference IS that Bush sent these men & women to their deaths for a lie. It will matter to people--and please don't call them "sheeple".

[Mick Knox]

26. Any transcript?

I've checked google.. lotsa news stories.. but so far no exact complete transcript.. also checked white house.gov. I would like to see the entirety of the comments.. but cant find it.

Thanks

[maddezmom]

29. here ya go

Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be somewhere. (Laughter and applause.)

As you can tell from the look on Andy Card's face, we've become a little concerned about the Vice President lately. (Laughter.) Whenever you ask him a question, he replies, "Let's see what my little friend says." (Laughter.) But we get along well. Here I am saying, "Dick, if the Hunan Palace doesn't get lunch here in four minutes, we're going out." (Laughter.)

Nope, no weapons over there. (Laughter and applause.) Maybe under here. (Laughter.) Oops, this photo wasn't supposed to be in here. This is the Skull and Bones secret signal. (Laughter.)

more:
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=165-03242004

[Mick Knox]

33. TY nt

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

35. That combined with the "hitting the trifecta line" should be edited into

an advocacy ad.

[The Night Owl]

32. Here...

Oops... Responded to wrong post.

[w4rma]

37. Sen. Kerry is the Democratic nominee. (nt)

[seabeyond]

30. i saw it. the two women got it

they understood the outrage, surprised yes, but the point well taken was letting the public know they got it,........i think that is why when you hear it doesnt sound dismissive. the man in the middle though tried to dismiss it, and a woman stopped him, and stated the seriousness these jokes offended.

i dont know who that man is, but he certainly minimizes everything coming out on bush

[grasswire]

40. not just the dead....

....but also the thousands of young men and women suffering the loss of limbs, skin, hearing, sight, and brain function.

Thousands of them.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

41. Barbara Starr just criticized Bush & the Media at Rumsfeld's briefing

She said that the media didn't do their jobs - that they just sat there and laughed instead of doing thier jobs.

You go girl!

[noiretextatique]

his "average guy" bs is getting old

and people are seeing him for what he is" an" an ignorant, boorish clod with a the sense of humor of a sociopath...and he's that too.

[noiretextatique]

43. his "average guy" bs is getting old

and people are seeing him for what he is" an" an ignorant, boorish clod with a the sense of humor of a sociopath...and he's that too.

[Zinfandel]

45. Not to mention the billions spent, taking away from much needed

programs back home...because of Bush's illegal invasion of Iraq for oil.

[rawstory]

46. MSNBC is just corporate media

Any big media enterprise is going to slip like that. It's sad that our media is controlled by so few outlets. For a liberal look at the news without the corporate bullshit, check out The Raw Story, the new liberal alternative to Drudge, at http://www.rawstory.com.

[sinkingfeeling]

48. The video is on CNN....

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/25/bush.broadcasters.ap/index.html

[BabsSong]

49. Did you see the other part??

They did one of those "segment" announcements and said "coming up
Bush has fun at dinner, blah, blah. Our Comic in Chief" and they were all smiles. I was wondering when they were going to get slammed because CNN this morning said that even though they didn't ask for them, they were swamped with e-mails with people who didn't think that 600 dead GI's looking for W's 'joke' was any joke. I guess finally someone clued in the crew at MSNBC>