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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:47 PM
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Drudge in shock after Mel Gibson criticizes the boy king
Edited on Mon Mar-15-04 04:09 PM by rumguy
I guess Gibson said this during an interview with Hannity.

" In a wide-ranging hour-long interview with FOXNEWSABCRADIO's Sean Hannity, PASSION OF THE CHRIST director Mel Gibson says he now has 'doubts' about President Bush and re-election... MORE... In the interview, set to air on Tuesday , Gibson says of Bush: 'I am having doubts, of late. It mainly has to do with the weapons claims'... MORE... The surprisingly critical comments from Gibson, a rare conservative voice in Hollywood, come as PASSION continues to dominate the boxoffice."

That's all that is up right now.

www.drudgereport.com

I always wondered how Gibson could back the boy king (and doubted that he ever really did)...looks like he is having some major doubts about the Iraq fiasco lies.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:48 PM
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1. So how will the Christian Right handle their new hero
Edited on Mon Mar-15-04 03:49 PM by rmpalmer
criticizing the boy king? The leader who thinks he is appointed by God! Anyone know if Hannity is streamed anywhere - I might just break down and listen to this one?
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:01 PM
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15. Freepers are all upset about this hour interview.
Edited on Mon Mar-15-04 04:03 PM by caledesi
Saying "Gee, why does he have to make his political viewpoints on TV?"

Check these wingnuts out. It's fun because they are freaking out.



http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1098212/posts

edit: forgot link
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 05:07 PM
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36. What a shame? They are sooooo petty!
Just because the man made a movie that they like, they think he should agree with them on everything. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
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TennesseeWalker Donating Member (925 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 08:21 PM
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50. "Why does he have to make his political viewpoints on TV?"
Edited on Mon Mar-15-04 08:22 PM by TennesseeWalker
I suggest that the man (Mel)is on "TV" THIS time for making a political viewpoint. That, plus the fact that he's on Hannity, and Hannity asks him what he thinks about politics.

I think Gibson expressing doubts about Bush is a very good thing. Christians who really believe in what they say shouldn't be voting for Bush. Maybe Gibson's film will save us all. And that's not all tongue in cheek.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 09:20 PM
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52. What a sense of entitlement
What a sense of entitlement some of these people have. Take this goon here for instance.

"After making millions upon millions of dollars from likely Bush supporters, he turns on them? I thought he was an Aussie, not an American."

What,just because Mel made a movie about Jesus,that is supposed to make him a Repug? A conservative? Where do they get the idea that they are the "righteous" and liberals are just a bunch of "Godless Communists"? Oh yeah,I forgot,Anthrax Annie told them that.

Get over it freeper,you paid your $8.00,you saw the movie.You either loved it,hated it or somewhere in between. I seriously doubt there was a sign up outside the theatre that guaranteed Mel to be a card carrying neocon. If you came to that conclusion in error,that's your fault. Such is the free market system.

This is the one I don't get:

"Just because Gibson made a movie about Jesus Christ doesn't make Gibson a saint. As long as he doesn't get nasty he is entitled to his opinion."

What does he mean by "as long as he doesn't get nasty"? What if Mel's opinion is "nasty" according to this freepbot,does that mean the First Amendment is null and void then? Why would Mel only be entitled to his opinion as long as it fits freeper guidelines?


Fuck these morons,we need to marginalize them every chance we get. Sometimes,they do a pretty good job of it themselves.





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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:50 PM
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2. This is great. The wingnuts act like they own the Passion and Gibson
Edited on Mon Mar-15-04 03:52 PM by Mountainman
The freepers will shit themselves. Any freeper who saw the Passion and talked up Mel will now completely deny having anything good to say about either!

I can't wait for freeperism's combined heads to explode! Mel will just be another one of those liberal Hollywood elitists.
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varun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 07:09 PM
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47. Just like Spain..
...a year ago, Spain was the best country in the world (other than USA) for supporting the Iraq war...now it is the worst (for electing a socialist govt.)

:eyes:
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:51 PM
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3. Looks like Mel will have to vote for Roy Moore
n/t
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:53 PM
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4. OMFG!!! I want to see the Freakers shitting themselves over this!
There is absolutely zero tolerance of any criticism of their lord and savior, Shrubya, over at Freakerland!

This one will make their heads explode!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:55 PM
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9. What like this?
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:54 PM
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5. about "Passion" profits???
won't Jesus be a little pissed if these huge profits are being donated to charity etc.,

Won't it make a great movie to see how alot of the profits of "Passion" get spent!!! ie, it gets sniffed up someone's nose, or some slash fest or sexfest movie is made using the profits from the movie. What will the Christian's think when they find out how their money is going to get spent!!
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:55 PM
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8. oops, meant ...aren't being donated to charity
eom
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PissedOffPollyana Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 08:13 PM
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49. Somebody should ask Mel, "WWJD?"
It's such a hoot reading through this!

If he is doing anything but donating the money to charity or the church, it's in awfully bad form. Virtually everyone I know that goes to a church has been told by their priest/minister/etc that they should go to see the Mel movie. Most of them have, which adds up. It's good to know it will probably not wind up in the Bush/Rove coffers, anyway.

It will be superb to get this whole dying for your sins/rising from the dead/yadda-yadda-yadda season behind us. This whole zealot thing is getting old and a little scary, if you ask me. Mel's Passion will either finally give them a nice high to end it on or take it to the next level. Then we'll have a real crusade/holy war/whatever these zealots want to call it and that would just suck.

Funny, I just did a comic strip about this very thing, Jesus paying a litle visit to Mel. If you want to see JC verbally bitch-slap Mel Gibson, here's the place to find it:
http://www.plastichassle.com/ph-html/patriotism/comic/np_001.html

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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:54 PM
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6. Freeps already pissed at Mel! 84 post so far
Edited on Mon Mar-15-04 03:56 PM by Mountainman
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1098212/posts

To: sonsofliberty2000; GWB and GOP Man
After making millions upon millions of dollars from likely Bush supporters, he turns on them? I thought he was an Aussie, not an American.
WELL, I'M NO FILM-MAKER BUT I'M HAVING DOUBTS ABOUT KERRY.


11 posted on 03/15/2004 12:26:46 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/ Invite to my Site)
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To: inkling
Why does ANYONE care?
Anyone who DOESN'T want to see traitor Kerry had better care. Mel Gibson and what he says right now will carry alot of weight with conservative voters.

I am one of Gibson's biggest fans, but he is making a BIG mistake by saying anything negative about President Bush right now. I hope this report is just being blown out of proportion.


26 posted on 03/15/2004 12:31:47 PM PST by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W. Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:58 PM
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12. They can't stand it!
The man-child boy king is beyond criticism in their eyes....unbelievable.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 05:00 PM
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34. lol
Morans

I hope they are right about the influence thing. Maybe some of the fundies will stay home.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:55 PM
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7. Gibson has a problem with anyone
who supports Israel. He would also have a problem with Kerry
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:12 PM
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21. Lots of room in the Democratic Party to disagree on Is/Pal issue
If you don't believe me, go down and look at the Israeli/Palestinian flame war forum here at DU. That fight's been going for almost 4 years non-stop. ;-)
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:55 PM
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10. Oh, How Freeper Heads Will Spin If Mel Really Said This
Edited on Mon Mar-15-04 03:56 PM by bushisanidiot
gawd, those idiots practically bought stock in Mel's money maker "passion" PURELY because they perceived Gibson to be the cookie cutter freeper that they are..

but now.. what will they do?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:11 PM
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20. Just wait
Wait and see what happens if those FRENCH troops catch Bin Laudin.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:57 PM
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11. I don't recall Mel Gibson ever actually backing Bush...
...Lots of people assumed that, however, given his right-wing social leanings.

However, from what I've read about the other half of the 'Gibson mindset' shared by father and son is that you can't trust the government or the CIA either. And certainly not George W Bush. (IIRC, didn't Gibson's dad move to Australia in the first place because he didn't trust the US government?).

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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:00 PM
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14. exactly - he never backed Bush...
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:00 PM
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13. Maybe I'll Chip in My $7.50 for His Movie After All n/t
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:19 PM
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24. I might catch it on cable now.
Let's not get carried away here. I'm not paying anybody good money in order for them to "evangelize" me. However, I'll probably sit down and watch it when it hits HBO now.

Don't tell me you can't avoid a movie on cable movie channels if you are determined. I still have yet to see any of the "American Pie" movies.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:49 PM
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32. "carried away" ----LOL
Edited on Mon Mar-15-04 04:49 PM by UTUSN
What I was going to spend of Mel's gospel, instead went towards Holy Blood/Holy Grail, The Templar Revelation, and Bloodlines of the Holy Grail.

As for boycotting, I have carried the concept to a ridiculous extreme of puniness. I boycott such funnies as the wingnut Mallard the Duck or whatever its name is---------and hard to believe, Family Circus, that seeming harmless fluff. Several years ago, the dad in "Family" was in a hammock with the portable radio on, and one kid said, "Shhhhh, you KNOW we can't make noise when Daddy is listening to Rush LIMBAUGH!" Haven't looked at that toon since.

There are a lot of things I have never seen-----MTV, anything Disney, and more. Don't have HBO.
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 05:03 PM
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35. Why bother?
Why on earth would anyone bother to officially "boycott" Family Circus? It's too damn boring to read anyway. Or, to put it another way, read it for one week--then you've pretty much seen all it has to offer.

Hard to imagine the father in it as a Limbaugh fan, however. Like every other character in it, he has absolutely NO personality. Whatever else you wanna say about dittoheads, they generally do have a discernible personality.
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tlewis Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 05:36 PM
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41. Funnies ... ?

I had to give up reading the "funnies" because it was too infuriating. Family Circus is one of the worst offenders in terms of shamelessly promoting a right-wing world view. While "Mallard Fillmore" draws attention by being blatant about its political leanings, many of the other strips only place a thin veil over the same ideology. Especially "dinosaur" strips like Blondie, Hagar the Horrible, Beetle Bailey, Hi and Lois, etc.

That, and because most strips are crudely drawn and unfunny.
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 05:23 PM
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39. Me too
I'm not religious, but it might be an interesting film after all.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:02 PM
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16. whoa.....I thought he'd be a total bush backer
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:07 PM
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17. Oh, I sooooo love this!
I've been really pressured by members of the Assyrian community to see this film (they're all seeing it solely for the Aramaic spoken in the film). They don't understand my reasonings for staying away. Now I may be able to go with a clear conscience.

Note: I still don't like the basics of this film, as I've stated many times here -- the emphasis on who killed Jesus, the sympathetic portrayal of Pilate, the violence, etc. It was the language curiosity that really wants to view this.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:08 PM
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18. I guess just an assumption by the thumpers here in the U.S.
that since they march so completely in lockstep with shrubco that Gibson must too, since he's the most famous thumper going currently. What a laugh if their hero comes out against shrubco. I would be loving that. People where I am here (thumper belt) are all agog about bringing their kids to see The Thrashin'. The cognitive and emotional dissonance might cause some serious head explodin'. LOL

But seriously I always thought those Michigan Militia types should be VEHEMENTLY against shrubco since part of their whole deal is about paranoia about the government infringing on their right to be crazy AK wielding maniacs, so they should be completely against shrubco suspending habeas corpus for reasons of "terra", holding people without charges incommunicado etc. including even US citizens (Padilla). It would only be a logically consistent position. But I've heard nothing about these dudes during shrubco. As long as it's brown dudes I guess.
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yolatengo Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:27 PM
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27. of course
Meatchicken Militia types want lots and lots and LOTS of guns for
THEM, NONE for you.

If the world turned instantly to their worldview, they would be
SA brownshirts or SS blackshirts. No rights for anyone but those in
the Party.

They talk a Libertarian game, but that's because they want to be
EVEN FURTHER to the right than the 'namby pamby' Republicans.

NO taxes. Lots of Guns. Liberals and brown-skinned peoples rounded
up and deported (or exterminated). Back to 1795 we go, with them
leading a land-owning, king-of-all-they-survey nation of Jeffersonian
Elite (starring themselves, natch). Original Intent. No votes for women
(or people of color, but there won't BE any of them around soon enough).

And they love Mel. They've seen The Patriot 200 times, Braveheart
300 times, and Lethal Weapon movies a million times each. They
happily ignore Mel's over the edge 12th century Catholic worldview.
See, when they're done with the mud people and liberals, they can
weed out or 're-educate' those not adhering to their RELIGIOUS worldview.
It's the Inquisition or 8th century Arabia where you will convert at sword-point.

Mel is cool while he's rallying the fanatic dervishes, but as soon as his
'usefulness' is used up, he'd better wise up or end up like the Libbruls...

Bigby
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:09 PM
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19. Watch this kill the box office receipts...
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mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:13 PM
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22. LOL!
I thought Hannity loved Mel. I'm sure that now he's back in the "those celebrities should just shut up" club.:)
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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:16 PM
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23. I love this!!
I have heard Mel bash Bush before so this is hardly a surprise, but my, my my! It is so great to see the Freepers simultaneously shit themselves, LOL!! I think they will collectively explode when Kerry wins the election...either that, or they will take their cyanide tablets, lol. I have always heard from friends who work in the industry, that Mel is a Libertarian. Either way, it looks good for us, because if he is a Repub, it means that he is hardly the first to loose faith in the Boy King. I am just wondering why it matters so much to them. I personally do not care about the personal lives and beliefs of actors and entertainers.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:27 PM
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28. One of the first things I will do when Kerry is announced the winner
Is log onto freeperville and see the weeping and gnashing of teeth there! What great fun awaits!
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 05:25 PM
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40. I have similar plans for November
You should have seen them on election night 2000 when Florida was (correctly) called for Gore. Some of those idiots were suicidal.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:24 PM
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25. My head is about to explode!!!
First I sort of had to like Larry Flint. :omg: then Stern...:shudder: now I have to re-think Gibson.. I'll take whatever we can to win.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 06:06 PM
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42. Bush is the republicans worst enemy.
He is alienating everyone with any intelligence whatsoever. Let's face it: An open and honest evaluation of the policies and practices of the Bu$h Administration can lead us to only one possible conclusion: Bu$h has got to go.

Thanks, Mel.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 07:25 PM
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48. My sentiments exactly! n/t
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 11:15 PM
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54. I'm having similar problems. :)
Maybe Mel isn't as crazy as I first thought...although that bit about his wife going to hell because she's an Episcopalian... :puke:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:25 PM
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26. i dont have issue with mel and passion
never did. not a movie i would watch and my issue was what the fundies where doing with the movie and for any of them to take their little children i thought just gross,........

i have listened to mel on a handful of interviews and thought he was cool,. it was interviews of late i questioned the oddity in him.

but i have never been comfortable with the attacking of mel.

it is cool to hear and funny for him to say to hannity though, that even with fundies adopting him, he opposing bush. a big thumbs up
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:29 PM
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29. D'OH!
Could Mel be triangulating to protect his popularity rating? That silly devil.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:31 PM
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30. Bush to Mel: "God, told me to go to Iraq."
Mel to Bush: "I talked to Jesus and he said you were full of shit."
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:39 PM
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31. Okay now
That is funny. :D
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:56 PM
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33. wow, the real rats are deserting the sinking ship, no?
I hope they f***ing drown.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 05:11 PM
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37. Mr. Gibson, prepare to be "Spain"ed.
Edited on Mon Mar-15-04 05:15 PM by Cat Atomic
I like Mel Gibson's work. I haven't seen The Passion yet, nor do I plan to, but I've always enjoyed his other stuff. I really couldn't care less about his politics.
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 05:21 PM
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38. I love it!
The poor widdle freeps are all dazed and confused now that their Lord Gibson has dared to criticize Bush. Maybe Gibson's not such a nut after all; even he can tell that Bush is an utter failure.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 06:19 PM
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43. Last week the churches were giving away free tickets
I bet within one more week, they will be screaming for it to be banned. ROFLMAO.
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 06:34 PM
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44. You know what? I think Mel might be a genius
He got all these people to spends millions to watch a film thinking they were supporting "one of their own." Now he criticizes their leader and has new appeal among the other side (who may or may not change their minds about seeing his film). This guy must be laughing all the way to the bank.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 10:37 PM
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53. I have heard
that Mel is "quite the practical joker." :evilgrin:
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BigBigBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 06:42 PM
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45. I didn't care about his politics before
and I don't care about them now. He made a movie about Jesus. So?

If the freepers assert that his coming out as a Bush skeptic, or Bush critic, will swing a lot of conservative votes, that says more about the stability of the conservative vote than it says about Mel Gibson.

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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 07:03 PM
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46. Fave Freep Comment:
from somebody called "mabelkitty," no less:

"This is to be expected - he is from Australia, afterall.
Not exactly a hotbed of Patriotism and war.
He will have to be excused for that, and one must quiety explain our culture of digging in and fighting for our country until the death."

HUH?? Talk about wacko! The definition of a patriotic view towards America is "a hotbead of Patriotism and war?"

I notice these windbags aren't out there fighting it! Armchair soldiers....Did they EVER meet a war they didn't like? If ever there was a damned stupid war, it's this one. I have yet to have one person explain how it has made us any more "safe" or "free."

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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 08:27 PM
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51. This is Gibson's scheme to double his profits..
..by now attracting the enormous anti-Bush, non-Christian audience out there. Thats a lot of additional money in the bank.

So, he gets us all excited, we tell all our friends, we decide to maybe just watch the flick to support this new-found Bush-basher, the freepers get mad when they read this and tell all their friends who tell their friends (some of which aren't pure freepers)--and *BAM*, profits triple!



..I'm not really serious, but theres another wacky Democrat conspiracy theory for ya.
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55. but it's all
in the game.
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