WMD. Did Saddam send his MIGs into Iran in 1991?

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or is this bullshit like I think it is? This guy on another forum is saying that Saddam did this very thing, in response to this question I posed...

his statement..."Same is true of Iraq. Even when the WMD are pulled from Syrian soil, the Demo's retort will be ... "


Tell me something. If you are a dictator, and you know your sworn enemy is about to invade your country, and knowing that they vastly out gun you, why one EARTH would you send your only means of retaliation and a final stand to a neighboring country (one that you hate almost as much as the invader), but leave yourself in the country to be at risk of capture?

Face it, flimsy little scenarios like this won't make this any more true. It's not going to happen. You've been duped. The sooner you get used to it, the sooner you can move on.

He wrote back. ..

"History lesson ... Gulf war 1. Saddam is getting smashed ... badly. What does he do with this Aircraft (aka STATE OF THE ART - MiG 29's). He sends them to Iran. Yes Iran ... the same country he had been in an 8 year war with. You want me to believe he LOVED the Ayatollah? And as far as being able to knock out the very Air Force that is destroying everything you have ... and you send your own Air Force out of country ... to you nearest and dearest ALLY? "

So, is he right?

So is he right?

[Davis_X_Machina]

1. Large numbers -- ~ 120 -- of Iraqi aircraft..

did flee to Iran rather than face destruction in the first Gulf war.

Link to USA Today, generally not a crackpot source.

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5. Link to USA Today, generally not a crackpot source"

Propaganda, YES. Crackpot, NO.

The degree of truth in history is the same as the degree of truth in the historian.

[jpak]

2. Dozens of Iraqi combat aircraft were tracked fleeing to Iran

during GW-1.

All were interned by the Iranians.

These aircraft are still there - and are totally inoperable.

So yes, this did happen

[John_H]

3. Yup. But please pass the ketchup, i think it's going to rain, ya know?

Your buddy's freeper logic is the Saddam sending his planes (for which the Iranians said, "jeez thanks for the planes, Saddam") is proof Saddam sent them WMD. Seems like the burden of proof is on him.


In fact, this is the worst argument of all time for pro war idiots to be making. Saddam sending the WMD's to Iran is PROOF that chimps' invasion was stupid--it did no good to get rid of the WMD, and gave them to a regime that a)has a real army and air force to defend itself, and b)may have nukes.

At least the inspectors had the Iraqis contained and may have found the WMD.

Fuck up. Big time.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

4. I'd have to see photos from an impartial source before I would believe...

...anything coming from Poppy's minions and/or Junior's minions.

Additionally, from where did this story originate? That would tell us quite a bit if we knew the original source for this information.

[Davis_X_Machina]

6. Contemporaneous report...

from Washington Post, with quotes from all sides, Iran included: Link

And a more current one, with numbers and types of aircraft involved, and their present disposition.

The aircraft Iran bought from Russia on the open market in the 1990's would seem to be a much bigger problem than the handful obtained in 1991 from fleeing Iraqis.