right-wing talk show callers compare M Stewart to __________?

[bobbieinok]

each time I wait for Ken Lay or Enron or equivalent

each time it's - ta dah - CLINTON

"Clinton lied and got off

and Martha Stewart might go to jail???

Clinton is so much worse than Martha, and SHE might go to jail?????"

[napi21]

1. Intereating comparrison......

Yes, they both lied to the Feds. I think the big difference is that Clintion lied for moral safety, Martha lied because, as a former broker, she knew she was risking insider trading charges which harm the market as a whole.

NO, she has not been criminally charged with insider trading, but she is under investigation by the SEC for that very charge. That is a civil charge punishable by fines.

The other problem Martha faces is doing the wrong thing at the wrong time. Had she done this very same thing 3 or 4 years ago, I doubt she would have even been questioned by anybody. After Enron, and the large number of other greedy execs devistated the stock market, the public and the Feds are out for blood....anybodys!

It's going to be tough for Martha. For the first time in a very long time, she's going to find out what the rest of us know as work.

[MODemocrat]

2. Rush dealt with drugs, and he's getting out of going to jail

The average person would be looking at some hard prison time if they had done what Rush's been doing for years; yet, they let Rush off the hook, and pay him millions of dollars per year for his talk radio shows where he can be the biggest hypocrite in history, and be handsomely rewarded for it.:freak: :thumbsdown: :shrug:

[stanwyck]

3. I still think

that too many of these people who are so giddy over Martha's sentencing are people who really dislike women, particularly very rich women who made their own fortune. There's a lot of chauvinism in the glee over Martha's demise. She's like Hillary. If she were a man, men (well, freeper men) would admire her. But since they're women; they're bitches.

[Voltaire99]

7. Well, not so fast

You could be right, but there are non-misogynistic reasons for disliking her, too. She's long been known for her raging tirades against employees, and there's the aesthetic nuisance of the spread of her terrible bland taste across society.

Stewart's trial is a sideshow to distract us from the real corporate crime wave, to be sure, but she deserves no sympathy.

[namvet73]

8. I understand...

What I don't like about Martha Stewart is the way she treated her employees. But, I don't like any tyrant, male or female, and I've had both. On the other hand, her employees are free to leave her just as they are free to leave any tyrant. I have quit from jobs led by tyrants of both sexes.

Not everyone feels that only women tyrants are "bitches." Male tyrants are "Pr^&ks."

But, to validate your feelings, I have to ask, why is Donald Trump so COOL for saying "your fired," ..and.. "no excuses?" Why is it so cool to be an apprentice to Trump acting like a tyrant? Why is Trump's scowling face so magnetic? Would someone please explain the "I want to be abused by Trump" phenomenon? .. or I want to WATCH other people being abused by Trump? .. or any boss? Could a female CEO have been popular in "Apprentice."

(I know it's a TV show. I've only seen the commercial spots. I refuse to watch the show. The motives of the people in the show are not fully known to me, but why is it so cool to the viewer?)

None of this has to do with her case. I reserve judgment on that. Leave it to the jury. All corporate crooks, male or female, should be prosecuted, but entitled to a fair trial, then sentenced as appropriate.

[Fla Dem]

12. You expressed how I feel about the whole issue.

And you did it well. The general story going around is how awful she treats her employees. Yesterday in a report it was stated that very few of her employees leave her companies, that they are very loyal. You don't have loyal ee's if you don't treat them well. Her hard as nails reputation comes from her dealings with people outside her family and companies. She is a tough negotiator, and demands top performance and quality from those who have contracts with her. I am not a MS fan, I don't get into that whole hostess, homemaking scene. But I have admired her ability to start a business from scratch, find a niche product/service and build on it. The woman has b^lls. It's just too bad that society (generalizing here)has a difficult time embracing a strong, ambitious, successful woman. By the way, she provides a service for the middle class. Her products, linens, garden stuff, housewares, are really very decent, have style and at an affordable price.

[Lorien]

10. You got that right

I can think of about a dozen male CEOs right off hand that are bigger "bitches" if held to the same standards.

[elsiesummers]

11. Yes that's it - her punishable crime-SWW-Success While a Woman

Regardless of Martha's guilt - the justice is certainly uneven as compared to, for example, Bernie Ebbers or Ken Lay. So - two possible reasons - (1)she is guilty of being a successful woman in America or (2)she gave too much to the Democratic Party.

They made an example of her to send a message to women that they must stay in their place and not become uppity and to the wealthy that it is dangerous to donate to Democrats.

As for Martha's guilt - probably not as cut and dried as we are led to believe.

What we can tell if we look closely: Fanuell(sp?) lied. He claims he asked his boss if it was ok to tell Martha about the stock - not something that would actually happen in real life - either he would do as he was told and shut up about it or he'd go up the food chain to his boss's boss with the question - saying that he felt he was being asked to do something ethically questionable. What he says he did, asking his boss directly if the bosses order was appropriate, it is against human nature. So - Fanuell was covering his butt by lying in his testimony - not credible. But - he stuck to his story - so he was treated as a credible witness.

Throw Fanuell's testimony out and they did't have a case.

[bryant69]

4. You have to understand

Right Wing Talk Show Hosts are as lazy as any of us. Comparing Martha Stewart to Clinton is a no brainer (and thank goodness for that) because pretty much everything bad in our society can be linked to Clinton.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[leetrisck]

5. The comparison should be bush himself

and his Harken Energy shennagins - bush is the one who walked and still is

[Sannum]

6. Studies have shown

That Clinton causes Cancer and makes the baby jesus cry. :eyes:

[thecrow]

9. Clinton is unforgiven ...

by the fund-a-mentals... isn't this weird?
Though God knows he has asked forgiveness, paid millions in legal fees and fines, and been disbarred, none of that means they can EVER forgive him.

It is an astonishment to me that these are the same group that believes that all sins are forgiven at the foot of the cross.

I bet Martha is never forgiven by them either.

[Baclava]

13. Well...

In hindsight, her advice to sell at 60 was pretty sound.