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DjTj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:09 PM
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Poll question: Immigration Poll.
We had an immigration poll a while ago, and it came out rather anti-immigrant. We also didn't take very kindly to allowing immigrants to run for President. It got me to wondering, how many immigrants are there on DU?

For the purposes of this poll, second-generation means that one of your parents was an immigrant, third-generation means that one of your grandparents was an immigrant, and fourth-generation means that one of your great-grandparents was an immigrant.

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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:13 PM
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1. I'm 2nd generation in reality
But I was born while my mother was visiting overseas and only one of my parents was a citizen at the time so according to most DU'ers I am unqualified to be president. :eyes:
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:54 PM
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13. If you are a citizen at birth
then you are qualified to run for President if you meet the other requirements. It doesn't matter whether you were born overseas, as long as you were born a citizen.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:58 PM
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15. Dupe n/t
Edited on Wed Feb-25-04 08:59 PM by _Jumper_
n/t
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:58 PM
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16. Both parents have to be citizens at the time
Only one of mine was.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 09:05 PM
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19. That's not what the embassy told me
Edited on Wed Feb-25-04 09:07 PM by Art_from_Ark
My son, who was born overseas, is a natural born US citizen, but only one of his parents is a US citizen. But the people at the embassy where I filed for his birth certificate told me that he was still eligible to become president, if he met the other requirements.

So, Art_from_Ark Jr. in 2040!
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Donkeyboy75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:16 PM
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2. Two great grandparents from the Ukraine,
two pre-Mayflower, and one Native American. I'm both a chronological and ethnic mutt.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:18 PM
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3. second
Edited on Wed Feb-25-04 08:20 PM by Kamika
and I think you should be born here to run for President
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:21 PM
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4. Yes, you are 2nd generation
Edited on Wed Feb-25-04 08:22 PM by _Jumper_
Yes, I am unqualified to be president because my mother had me when she was overseas. Instead, let's elect the children of illegals over me.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:28 PM
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6. well you're an exception
Edited on Wed Feb-25-04 08:28 PM by Kamika
I'm talking about guys like Schwarzenegger.

And my parents were not illegals thank you
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:29 PM
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7. Why ban me?
I say let everyone run--like every other Western country--and let the people decide who represents them the best. Could I be any worse than Shrub? ;)
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:31 PM
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8. you're a technicality
I'm sorry you're not eligable but I wouldn't want an Austrian guy with quasi fascist visions to be my president..

Imo you should have lived here most of your life including your childhood.


And again you're an exception, I'm sorry for you.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:37 PM
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9. How can he be worse than other PNAC puppets?
At least Arnold is socially moderate.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 09:01 PM
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17. Ah, but he IS eligible
He was born a citizen, so just like John McCain, who was born in the Canal Zone, or George Romney, who was born in Mexico, he would be able to run, if he met the other requirements.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 03:45 PM
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21. simple solution

I'm sorry you're not eligable but I wouldn't want an Austrian guy with quasi fascist visions to be my president..

Don't vote for him.

Oh, that's right, that might not work. You have a USAmerican guy with really fascist visions doing the job now. Things worked out really well, I see.

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EXE619K Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:39 PM
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10. Run for Senate or the House.
But I agree, you should be able to run for the White House.

I'd say...twenty-years of living in this country and a good knowledge of the political system.

Heck, a lot of foreigners know more about this country than some Americans living here.

Good enuff fer me.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:44 PM
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11. I'll probably wind up in Canada
Canada not only allows all Canadian citizens to run for the top spot but it is a non-issue there.

Note: I will probably leave to escape racism if the terrorism problem is not solved, not for a quixotic boyhood dream of being a president or PM.
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EXE619K Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:49 PM
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12. I said...run FOR Senate or the House.
Not...

run FROM the USA!

We need more people like you here...

Not THERE!
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:27 PM
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5. I would be...
...a first generation immigrant if the U.S. wasn't so bigoted.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:54 PM
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14. Immigrant AND All great greats frrom round philadelphia
You don't have a category for long generation US bloodline NOT living
in the US.

I'm an immigrant in the UK, and elegible for president in the US.
Immigrants always get treated like outcastes, as they are "foreign"
and automatically an easy target for prejudice.

American's abroad take their bloodlines abroad as well, as their children are US citizens even if born abroad.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 09:02 PM
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18. One great grandfather
came here in 1872 from Germany. On another branch of my family, they came over on the Mayflower. Just a typical American.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 03:43 PM
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20. I'm a third-generation immigrant
... just not to the US. ;)

All my grandparents immigrated to Canada from the UK (England, specifically), 2 as children and 2 as a married couple with a kid.

This is probably one reason that I say things like "dog's breakfast" that people here don't understand, although I think that's just as likely because I'm old. If I were speaking Brit, I think I'd say "dog's dinner" like they do on East Enders. ;)

Part of me's from the East End (of London, England, that is) -- and all of me's from another east end (of London, Ontario, that east end having the same "great unwashed" reputation as its predecessor) -- and I'm durned proud of it.

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