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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:38 PM
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Jon Stewart last night suggested a constitutional ammendment against
Adultry. It seems that could also be considered as undermining marriage in America. Think the GOP would like that one? Most of the GOP seem to participate in that activity. :shrug: Hypocrites.
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thebaghwan Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:40 PM
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1. I would go for that and banning anyone from Texas running for the
presidency.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:44 PM
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3. I was thinking of an amendment to ban anyone
from the Bush family for ever running for prez again.

It would certainly save the country alot of heartache, and would save us from the looting that is the trademark of the Bush Dynasty.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 04:40 PM
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24. You might want to make that Connecticut, if you are referring to the
pretend president.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:41 PM
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2. Always to the heart of the hypocrisy, that Jon...
That is probably the best argument to throw at the fundies! :thumbsup:
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:46 PM
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4. if these "sanctity of marriage" dipshits had one ounce of conviction
they would be screaming for a Constitutional ammendment banning the NUMBER ONE cause of marital de-sanctification:

DIVORCE

How many marriages end due to divorce?

How many marriages end because some gay couple 1000 miles away got married?

Do the math, you moronic fundy bigots :eyes:
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:51 PM
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7. Divorce ...
is the safety valve allowing, rightly, the separation of irrevocably incompatible spouses ...

Denying divorce to unhappy or abused wives is like placing shackles around their ankles ...

Societies NEED divorce ...
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 02:08 PM
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13. I agree 100%
I just don't place marriage on the pedestal that these loons seem to. It's certainly not "the most fundamental institution of civilization" by any means.

I'm just saying they need to put their money where their mouth is. So far I have not heard even ONE example of how gay marriage threatens "traditional" marriage in any way. Yet these freaks scream on tv that blessed, sacred marriage is somehow being undermined in some way.

If the REALLY AND TRULY were concerned about marriages, they would address the reasons why htey fall apart, not prevent more of them from coming together.
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Damn Hippie Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 02:43 PM
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16. "How many marriages end due to divorce?"
I hope you ment to write, "How many marriages end due to adultry?"
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 02:51 PM
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18. no, I typed it as intended
to show the Fundie conservatives where the biggest threat to the sanctity of marriage can be found, vs the threat to it from gays
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:46 PM
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5. there ya go!
can we find a sponsor for that one?
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Liberal Classic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:46 PM
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6. LOL I love JS
The other thing to consider is if gays and lesbians knew what marriage was really about they would run away screaming. :)
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:55 PM
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10. I am reminded of the angel in "Milagro Beanfield War"
" if we knew what we were in for, none of us would do anything"
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:54 PM
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8. JS is right on ...
Adultery is a FAR greater 'threat to marriage' than homosexuality can EVER be ...

The whole argument against gay marriage is a fraud ...
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 01:54 PM
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9. How bout we just get rid of Texas altogether?
They seem to think they're independent anyway. Let them have their way!!!
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liberalitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 02:01 PM
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11. We could give 'em back to mexico....
But the Mexican Economy doesn't need that burden.....
then those white people will be forcing english to be spoken in Mexican Schools (they should all learn spanish NOW.... OVER NIGHT)
THen all those texicans will take jobs meant for good mexicans
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 02:19 PM
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14. Slamming Texas is very counterproductive bigotry.
Edited on Tue Feb-24-04 02:44 PM by DenverDem
There are many extremely tough liberals in Texas and a long tradition of liberalism in spite of a large peckerwood population. Democrats are fighting hard to win back the state and this ongoing statism is hurting that effort.

Perhaps you should start working where you are to ensure a victory by the real "right" (i.e. correct) wing in your own state.

Neither W nor Poppy are native Texans. They are oil field carpetbaggers who came to exploit Texans' natural resources for their power elite overlords.

The Dixie Chicks are not the only Texans shamed by bushco's claims to Texan roots.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 02:44 PM
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17. Bigotry?? Statism???
I think you need to take a nap. Sleep off whatever it is that's bugging you, wake up, and re-read it with a sense of humor.
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:12 PM
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19. Massachusetts should be thrown out of the Union for allowing gay marriage.
Edited on Tue Feb-24-04 03:30 PM by DenverDem
See how it feels.

Now re-read it with a sense of humor. Doesn't help much, does it?

It's only "funny" if it's not about your beloved home state.

(I am a Texas native.)

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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 04:15 PM
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22. No, I still find it funny.
The major difference here, though, is that making that kind of comment makes it seem like you hate gay people, while I'm saying I hate Bush. And that is, of course, a huge difference.

And trust me, I've been told on many occasions that I come from the People's Republic of Massachusetts and other similar comments. But I actually have a sense of humor and didn't take it very seriously.
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 05:18 PM
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26. The point of the post is, of course, that you made a blanket
statement encompassing a whole state. I was making a point about your home state, certainly not about GLBT rights, of which I am on record here as firmly supporting. I actually love visiting Boston and think your state is beautiful.

Hating bush does not mean you can hate all Texans and to make that statement you are slandering me, which I take personally. Not to mention all the great liberals from Texas who are fighting the good fight. (Ref. Molly Ivins and Jim Hightower). It is insensitive to say the least that you can't understand that.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 04:18 PM
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23. Yes, I learned a lot about Texas Progressive Democrats and
the whole set of associated movements when I read "Made in Texas". Helped me understand what seemed to be this anomaly of some really progressive Democrats from Texas over the years.

It also explained the mindset of the "plantation folk" and "extractors" like the Bushes. Basically, they're "Old South".
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 04:45 PM
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25. Thanks for the good words, speaking as a 7th generation Texan and
Dem. we sure could use some help and slamming Texas is hot air blowing in the wrong direction. I'm a precinct chair and we have many hard working folks that are trying to make a differenc and posts like those putting us all in the same rw basket really help repukes.
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 05:21 PM
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27. God bless you for your good work.
My business forced me to Colorado which is not a bad place to be forced to, but I sure miss my family and my little home town and doing the work of reclaiming my native state from the carpetbagger rethuglicans like the bushlers.

Thanks for being there and being involved.
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 02:06 PM
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12. Good one Jon. How about a constitutional amendment banning
poverty in a marriage, or homelessness, or lack of health care?

Those things certainly undermine the sanctity of marriage.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 05:51 PM
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29. LOL
Kerry should come out with that response. That's great.
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myomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 02:23 PM
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15. As I read here yesterday, maybe it's time to have a "War on Ignorance"
.
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brainwashed_youth Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:16 PM
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20. i was thinking of an amendment
to ban constitutional amendments
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 03:20 PM
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21. Need help from those who know The Bible
because many here are saying what I've been wondering about, also. If the morality of homosexuality is the issue pushing the constitutional amendment sanctioning only heterosexual marriage, then what about the Bible's stand on divorce? My understanding, as a lapsed Presbyterian, is that the Bible does not recognize divorce and that the marriage vow "till death us do part" is either followed or you're committing adultery. Of course, Presbyterians are allowed to divorce and still be members of the church. But Presbyterians also do not interpret The Bible literally. Wouldn't Jon Stewart be correct in asking that a constitutional amemdment on marriage, in order to be in accordance with religious values, also make adultery and divorce illegal? Or is this another case of if it's something you're doing, it's a sin. But if it's something I'm doing, it's not a sin.
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-04 05:23 PM
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28. The Christian New Testament does not prohibit homosexuality.
All the fundie judgementalist legalism comes from the Hebrew Old Testament.
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