Is Bush drinking again? What do you think?

[Manix]

I'm starting to hear a buzz around that he is back on the
bottle. For example some who are familiar with the problem
see the "Meet The Press" interview as confirmation. ie. He
had that tired hung over look, the slow mush mouth responses etc
I'm starting to wonder.

[fearnobush]

1. Good Observation.

I was wondering the same thing, most alcoholics will definitely relapse without a continued program... AA etc. Bush, got struck sober by the hand of God himself so, I'm not sure, but I do know of a born again Christian who decided it was ok to drink again, then shoot dope again and well, she's not alive any more so, I would not buy the whole Bush is sober thing. I think he started drinking sometime after the O'Neill book was released. When he had a fund raiser in NM and went on his - media, buy some ribs rant, a publicity nightmare for Rove, he looked and acted wacked. I bet he is the real annoying type of drunk. Expect this behavior to increase - if they let him speak off the cuff, ever again.

[hang a left]

22. IMHO

The program of Alcoholics Anonymous and fudamentalism are not reconcilable. I think scumbush has just been marketed to the public. He is not a sober or God loving individual. He is...well...scum.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

26. Yep, it was the ribs that convinced me...

Bush shouldn't even try being a "regular guy," be it drunk or sober. The press may have had a ball with the "I have a scream" crap but that "Are you gonna buy some ribs" clip was the biggest embarrassment of the election to date, regardless of party lines. He should do what he does best, which is the smirky "bring it on" arrogance as displayed at the send of the MTP interview:

"I'll tell you, though, I'm not going to change, see? I'm not trying to accommodate — I won't change my philosophy or my point of view."

and...

"Well, I don't plan on losing. I’ve got a vision for what I want to do for the country. See, I know exactly where I want to lead. I want to lead us — I want to lead this world toward more peace and freedom. I want to lead this great country to work with others to change the world in positive ways, particularly as we fight the war on terror, and we got changing times here in America, too."

This is what he should stick to, because it's what he does best and it's WHO HE IS...an arrogant, worthless, "made guy." And yes, I do believe he's on a combination of something...booze, pills, powder, who the hell knows...Rove is sticking his finger up the puppet's "speak hole" and the puppet is speaking the wrong words. They are not coming out the way President Rove and President Cheney want them to. Apparently they think that medicating the puppet will help but so far it has only made matters worse.

[leftofthedial]

2. he has been drinking continually

since at least the late 90's.

[librechik]

20. exactly--if an AA member drinks O'Douls, like Shrubbie EVERY NIGHT

they would have to admit they are off the wagon. O'Doul's is not considered "alcohol free" by anyone except the O'Doul's PR man.(Read the fine print on the label) And not even a tiny drop of alcohol is allowed to the AA member--

[bobthedrummer]

27. As a recovering alcoholic {since 1981} I take into account the look

and , especially the smell of these "non-alcohol" products too.
Maybe this whole administration has been headed by a person in a BLACKOUT???
:scared:

[Elwood P Dowd]

3. Just eating too many pretzels

Those things put bruises on your face and make your speech slurred.

[izzie]

7. Now I know why I do not eat those things.

At my age I can not have that put on myself.

[Piperay]

4. Again???

I honestly don't think he ever quit except for brief periods (like a day here and there when he absolutely had to be sober). :beer: :puke: :hangover: :thumbsdown:

[buckeye1]

5. It could be.

However,I believe that it is pharmas. Way too many. Daddy was way out on them. That's why puked on the Japanese PR.

[hang a left]

23. Exactly. Pills, and you can't smell em.

[izzie]

6. I read some of the Meet the Press stuff and it is nuts.

I even sent it to a friend to see what she thought. He speaks so odd, you know this is a tree because it is a tree. I can never figure out what he is talking about unless it is a formal speech, so that reading was even more so. Pull it up and read a little. If he is drinking I am sure some one would not let him out but then he may now really think he smart enough to be the President. Now that will be something. A 9 year old with his own army and country, God can only help us.

[ConcernedCanuk]

12. A 9 year old with his own army and country, God can only help us.

.
.

Weird you should make that reference to a 9 year old

Fidel agrees with you about his mental capacity any ways !

From Reuters:

"Bush could not debate a Cuban ninth grader, who knows more than he does," Castro said in a speech . .

/snip/

Among other gaffes, Castro quoted Bush as saying: "I will have a foreign-handed foreign policy;" "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family;" "More and more of our imports come from overseas;" and "The most important job is not to be governor, or first lady in my case."

MORE

[izzie]

13. I get it from how he acts and I had three 9 year old boys. My daughter

used to say we reach a set age, one we like, and we never move emotionally any older. I thought it funny at the time she said it but I could not get it out of my mind and I swear I see it all the time. Now my self I like 12 and I have always been said to be child like, not childish, and I think I stayed at 12. 9 you are a child but at 12 you are making moves into growing up. Then of course 12 year old have nothing to do with THOSE 9 years olds.And you?

[ConcernedCanuk]

47. That's a pretty perceptive daughter you have there

.
.

" we reach a set age, one we like, and we never move emotionally any older."

It's true in a way, trouble is I believe alot of people either pass or never "reach" an age that they "like"

and that may explain why there are so many unhappy people in the world ?

still -

I think it's a brilliant observation .

Me - I'm about 8 or so - kids luv me !

[republicansarewhores]

8. If he wasn't drinking before "Meet the Press"...

I'm sure he must have hit the bottle afterwards. What a showing. Can anyone here imagine Clinton stuttering and speaking as vaguely as this fool? And that insane expression where he forces a monkey smile to be all "folksy"... I couldn't tear my eyes awy from the screen it was such a train wreck, much like his entire presidency.

RAW

[joshdawg]

9. If he is not drinking, then he is what AA'ers call

a dry drunk. He might not be drinking, but he is not "sober." He has not had that personality change that is quintessential to staying sober. For example, a person can be a car thief and be drinking alcoholically, then he sobers up, but he still steals cars. That may be Bush*. Once an alcoholic, always and forever an alcoholic.

[chyjo]

10. no

I blame that entirely on his stupidity.

if he were drunk/hungover I think he would accidently spit out the truth more often.

[sadiesworld]

11. I have yet to see him pop out of Air Force One without belching.

[ithacan]

14. his speech patterns and intonation are bizarre

not sure if that's related, but whenever I hear him talk he sounds really strange, the way he puts emphasis on certain words, the pauses, it all sounds like he's robotic almost.

This poor guy should be living out the old frat boy dream, playing golf on some Arizona golf course. You gotta feel sorry for him almost, it's like at the end of the Soviet Union, the communist party Cheney and Rove's carting out guys as heads of the party who were basically almost dead...

The fact that they have bush is a sure sign of the bankruptcy of the GOP. Now if only real republicans could wake up and take their party back from the fascists.

[cboy4]

15. I think that's so unfair to accuse the prez

of being back on the bottle when
everyone I talk to seems to think he's
"only" back on the coke! <sarcasm>
:evilgrin:
hehehehehe

[dbt]

16. Drugs. Medications. Pharmaceuticals.

Whatever you want to call 'em. Remember how the Boy King couldn't string three sentences together before 9/11? Even from a TelePrompter? (Any elementary-school teacher will recognize that as "difficulty staying on task.")

Contrast that with his "masterful" address to the nation a few evenings later.

My best guess is the stimulants method of treating ADD. Took about 24 hours for the Dexedrine (time-release) to take hold. Presto! The formerly scatterbrained could now read entire pages without wandering off.

Trouble is, if you stay on those caps long enough, you begin needing something to take you down at night. A few months of this and you come off looking like a cottonmouth zombie. Especially if your brain has been rebuilt by, let's say, booze and cocaine during your youth.

And, during his Day Phase, Georgie just might need something to keep him from focusing too much on the fact that he's in shit up to his scalp. Effexor or Zoloft would be my best bets.

I fear that the pResident has--and IS--a Drug Problem.

:freak:
dbt

[snippy]

17. AWOL from AA?

[FlaGranny]

18. X@#$#@&*(

Don't do that to me without warning! Ugghh.

[snippy]

42. I'm sorry. It was thoughtless. Please accept my apologies.

But I do think he looks like he has been drinking.

[smirkymonkey]

34. LOL! Good one!

I actually think he IS drinking - notice the flush over his nose and cheeks, which I have seen in many other photographs. That is very typical of active alcoholics.

Drugs alone would not cause that to happen.

God help us, we have a raging alcoholic with his finger on the button!

[belle]

43. Yeah, it's the "strawberry nose" that makes me suspicious

As far as him being incoherent...hell, that's always been true.

Anyway, considering how much he lies about everything else, sure, it wouldn't surprise me to learn he's been lying about being sober. Maybe he really never did quit at all. Maybe he just got better at hiding it for a while.

[Malva Zebrina]

38. that is the worst picture I have seen of Bush

Ugh--he looks totally insane.

[Tigerlily]

39. Yikes! n/t

[Claire Beth]

19. If so, they wll hide it

at least anything more than suspicion.

[Raenelle]

21. Question--would there be leaks about it if he were?

Alcoholic drinking is not something that's easy to hide.

First place, it's progressive--the cravings get harder and harder to control, you begin drinking when it's inappropriate; weekend binges would become longer and longer; you begin drinking on Wednesday and don't sober up until Monday--that kind of thing.

Second place, after a drunk, alcoholics literally have a stale alcohol smell coming out of their pores--hard to hide, and something someone in the press corps would have noticed.

So, if he's drinking, would they have let us know, or hinted at it? If so, then I'd have to say he's not drinking. Probably a blessing, because he seems to me to be the type who would be a very mean drunk.

[TomNickell]

30. I think it would be.

But then, Nixon was drinking heavily in the last days of Watergate. I don't remember any news accounts of it.

And this bunch of 'reporters' wouldn't go out of their way to find out such a thing.

He has certainly acted sedated several times. Different than I would expect him to act drunk. More like valium. Recall the press conferences before invading Iraq.

Then again, he could just be a doofus.

[jmowreader]

24. I think he never stopped

One had to stop drinking to say he "started again." Bush drank continually.

[diamond14]

25. recent shrub photo....red nose, swollen face....seems alcoholic

[goclark]

28. Disability ,Bottle,Pills,Coke

I think it is a combination of all of these things.

In my professional opinion,he has ADD and it was not treated when he was a kid.

When you see the misspeaks,lack of complete thoughts etc., I would say it is a definite learning disability that would be minimized if treated. Shame on Mommy and Daddy * for allowing him to get in over his head like this,they could have helped him. In effect they "Left Their Own Child Behind."

If you look at the face,you can also see the disability. Inside he is so scared but he can't control himself. Can you just imagine being so disabled with no help and being the leader of the world? That is such a shame for him.

I have ADD so I know the feeling that he has when he can't handle all the information that is given to him. That's why he can't read the newspapers,too much info to digest at one time.That's why Condi is his newspaper.

Rowe has the ear piece for him and I'd bet money that Condi is in his ear all the time. Have you noticed how close they are? She has a manner,speaks clearly and slowly, like a special education teacher. That is what he needs.

But, when you add the bottle,pills and coke you have an overwhelming problem.
And that,IMO is what we are seeing "Governor gone WILD"



:silly:

[peacetalksforall]

33. She is his full time nanny/caretaker and is also head of the NSA?

The U.S. brought to you by Republicans.

[jmowreader]

46. She's head of NSC, not NSA

NSC - National Security Council. Headed by the president's National Security Advisor, who at this time is an airhead who needs to be in prison.

NSA - National Security Agency. Headed by the Director, National Security Agency, who is an Army or Air Force lieutenant general or Navy vice-admiral on a rotating basis, and who does not need to be in prison.

[porkrind]

36. Ha! Condi = Special Ed Teacher to Bush

It fits!!! I never thought of it that way but it's perfect!

[Ilsa]

37. I think it might be more than ADD.

I think he may have another learning disability like dyslexia, and he may have problems with expressive communication much in the same way an autistic child has. I also think he doesn't really have friends, just people who hang around him to use him. He doesn't seem very likeable, IMO, because he has nasty nicknames for everyone. He seems sociopathic, and the "good ol' boy" image is only an image.

I also think he might be on something. I've noticed something hasn't been quite the same for several months, both in his appearance and speech. My guess is he's terribly unhappy that 'Muricans don't appreciate their sons, daughters, husbands, wives, fathers, and mothers getting killed so he can make a few more bucks. He's been convinced that he's Jesus, come to save 'Murica, so not being popular any more is a huge setback for him. He drinks when he thinks he can get away with it. The rest of the time they try to keep him medicated to avoid any huge gafts. (I missed the "buy some ribs" fiasco.

BTW, what the hell is that on the left side of his forehead in that huge picture several posts up? He must be tripping all over the residence.

[OneTwentyoNine]

40. Or..Rove had Chimp in the "Bahama Mama" tanning bed to long..

Wants Chimp to have that em..."healthy" look. Wooaaaa....


David

[BiggJawn]

29. "Again"????

That would imply that he stopped drinking at some time...
Oh...He can't drink when he's asleep or passed out, can he?

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[LunaC]

32. Why else would he spend so much time at the Crawford ranch?

I think he goes there specifically to binge while officially "off duty".

I briefly lived with a druggie who could only keep it together for a few weeks at a time before the addiction took hold and there'd be a binge-period of "release". When I caught on to the endless-loop pattern I was out of there, concluding that once an addict, ALWAYS an addict. It's no different for The Smirk. Some people are broken and they can't be fixed!

[belle]

44. I never thought of it that way. That theory makes perfect sense, tho'.

[Ksec]

35. I guess he got pulled over at Yale repeatedly

for being stinkin Drunk. It was common for the Yale police to let him off everytime .

**snippet
Those who encountered Bush in Alabama remember him as an affable social drinker who acted younger than his 26 years. Referred to as George Bush, Jr. by newspapers in those days, sources say he also tended to show up late every day, around noon or one, at Blount's campaign headquarters in Montgomery. They say Bush would prop his cowboy boots on a desk and brag about how much he drank the night before.
They also remember Bush's stories about how the New Haven, Connecticut police always let him go, after he told them his name, when they stopped him "all the time" for driving drunk as a student at Yale in the late 1960s. Bush told this story to others working in the campaign "what seemed like a hundred times," says Red Blount's nephew C. Murphy Archibald, now an attorney in Charlotte, N.C., who also worked on the Blount campaign.
http://mathewgross.com/blog/

[retread]

41. Yes. If by again you mean he drinks, he passes out, he wakes

up, he drinks AGAIN.

[CityZen-X]

45. His Bitter Half...

is a good example of that. That women is stoned and rightfully so!