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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:25 PM
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Heard this morning on CNN: It's all the intelligence community's fault
Edited on Sun Jan-25-04 01:28 PM by CatWoman
A brief segment on David Kay's comments about Iraq not having WMDs is now being spun to lay blame on the intelligence community.

Of course they reminded us that Clinton, as well as the UN, also thought Saddam had these huge stockpiles, as did the deserter in chief.

The culprit: bad intelligence. How could they had gotten it so wrong?

It's one thing to believe something. Acting on that belief is entirely different.

Clinton didn't invade Iraq on this half-assed belief.

Nor did the UN.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:27 PM
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1. It's been the media's job to deflect blame
so they quickly confuse people by suggesting that someone else is actually to blame
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:32 PM
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2. You don't expect this administration to accept any kind of responsibility
do you? Personal responsibility? That's for other people, not them.
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:33 PM
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3. I wonder how the CIA is going to respond to being fall guy
yet again for Bush*. Let's see, it's their fault 9-11 happened, no congressional investigation into the leak of a CIA agent's identity, their fault the "16 words" got into the SOTU speech... To quote James Carville, "HAD ENOUGH"?
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:37 PM
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6. I would say that Rove...
will have a lot of difficulty convincing the CIA to do them a favor and off a Democrat any time soon.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:34 PM
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4. I gagged my way through the second half of MTP this morning
and they are so "fluffy" with the republican issues and spend so much time making the democrats look ridiculous. When the best media whore of all was asking Clark about Moore's statement, I wish Clark would have said, maybe the 500+ who have died is a more important issue.

Nobody will touch on the disgusting aspects of this administration and all the hope I had for the truth coming out in an election year is looking like a dismal prospect. They are going to continue to give the chimp a free pass.

Once again, the bullshit that comes out of the WH is always someone else's fault. When is it actually going to get old and tiresome to watch them do this?
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IowaBiker Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:34 PM
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5. Not a bright move for Bush
The Bush family has been so tightly tied to the intellegence community, I don't think it is smart for them to make enemies there.

They started it with their leaks, now this. Considering the size of the skeleton closet they keep over there, we could be in for some fun reading come summertime.

--Brian
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:39 PM
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7. Correct -- see this thread in Editorials
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:50 PM
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9. Not to mention they created a special intelligence team to vet this info
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:47 PM
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8. Clinton also didn't run around specifying what iraq had - and in what
quantities... nor did his sec of defense say... WE KNOW WHERE IT IS...

The thing with the repub line... is if Colin Powell's CURRENT words are true... (that we didn't know HOW MUCH...)... then why the hell did they undermind the UN Weapons Inspectors ... and instead let them do their job and answer Colin's questions.

Or - how is Bush's intelligence so much more ineffective than say... the IAEA ? And what of the numerous reports of intelligence reports refuting the WH line... just to be dismissed? Oh - the poor intelligence doesn't refer to the quality of the Intelligence community... it refers to the ideologically blinded collective intelligence ensconsed in the White House...
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Parrcrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:55 PM
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10. blaming the CIA for all their foul ups
is a hot sexy issue for the compliant media.

It also leaves Democratic supporters in the difficult position of defending the CIA when calling BushCo on all their bullshit.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:39 PM
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11. Haven't we been through this a million times by now?
I love it when they blame others though. The CIA will not take it lying down, even though it will expose their own nefarious deeds. I can't wait until they start to blame SA and Israel because then the real dirty dealing will come pouring forth. All the players will be shooting each other in the back.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:40 PM
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12. We need to keep stressing one point:
Clinton did say that Saddam had WMD in 1998. BUT - he didn't invade, he didn't start a war.
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