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Nambe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 06:19 PM
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DU in the News!!!!!
The Australian (Murdoch paper)


Commentators on the popular American left-wing website Democratic Underground were more explicit about how they felt: "Doesn't a part of you wish that Queasy and Duh-day were alive? I'll admit they're scum and rightfully so, but anything that lands even more humiliation on W's grotesque shrivelled face is that much the better.

"It's sad, really, that as despicable as they are, Saddam's family seems to be the lesser of two evils when you compare them to the wretched little bastard occupying the White House and destroying America in the process . . ."

To be fair, this guy was upbraided by other contributors to the site. But he wasn't alone. Here are two others: "What I really hate about the way our Government has been taken over is that I'm at the point where I almost don't want anything good to happen in Iraq, I want them to screw up, I want them to fail."

Another vented: "Bush and his ilk are far, far worse than Saddam and his two degenerate brats, and that's saying a lot."
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 06:24 PM
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1. Yeah, what's his name...oh, sully had that on his website.
why don't they print what's on the freeper site about clinton and what they wish for him? huh? "To be fair". ?????????
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 06:28 PM
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4. andrew sullivan, my favorite log cabin blog queen?!?!
is that whom you are referring to?
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 06:26 PM
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2. I guess it pays to remember
that there are a lot of eyes out there in the World that are taking in what is posted here. :eyes:
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 09:43 AM
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48. And we are all stereotyped on the basis of those comments...
Don't forget that the wingers will do anything and everything to hold on to and to extend their power.
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StandWatie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 06:26 PM
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3. good deal..
let Andy smear, he's a complete idiot.

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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 06:28 PM
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5. That's misleading
They make it appear as if DU officially supports those comments.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 08:46 PM
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27. and the truth is it was started by a "low post count" poster
if you know what I mean...;-)
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indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:49 PM
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37. Actually I remember who started it
and he's been around some time... I've actually met him.
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PunkinPi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 06:28 PM
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6. Who gave him
authorization to quote people on the DU (or don't they need it b/c it is posted on a public board and didn't use names)? Or was this from an article posted on the homepage of DU? :shrug:
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 06:30 PM
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7. uh oh
at some point in this thread, an impassioned plea about "moderation" and "swing voters" will appear. Until then, please recite the alphabet and put on a warm sweater. You will be contacted with further instructions.

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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 06:36 PM
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8. lol
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ

:warm sweater:

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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 08:11 PM
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20. click
reel 2 reel tape recorder: "Excellent, citizen... you are now prepared for phase II: take right wing Ruppppppert Murdoch drivel at face value, act shocked, shocked, shocked, use words like "we"/"us" - then, take a long nap. Do not, I repeat... do not wake up."

thank you,
George Tenet
CIA
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 09:52 PM
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32. check, check, and check
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 06:41 PM
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9. calm down
Edited on Wed Jul-30-03 06:59 PM by DUreader
ok?
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 06:47 PM
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10. ok I'm calm now
Edited on Wed Jul-30-03 06:58 PM by DUreader
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Dude_CalmDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 08:31 PM
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25. Did someone say calm down?
Hehe
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 07:18 PM
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11. Which DUer said this?
Another vented: "Bush and his ilk are far, far worse than Saddam and his two degenerate brats, and that's saying a lot."

:thumbsup:
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 07:56 PM
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15. somebody postedt it
Edited on Wed Jul-30-03 07:59 PM by Kellanved
I have checked it . But the post isn't a one-liner; the citation is completely out of context.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 08:04 PM
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17. That was thermodynamic... here's the link with context and replies.
Edited on Wed Jul-30-03 08:06 PM by Wonk
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 10:41 PM
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34. Well, "thermo" has been around awhile and what he said was appropriate
in context.....so who cares what a Murdoch paper thinks or Sullivan. Glad for the publicity.

Any of the Bushista's and their punditocracy have said worse. Colin Powell was quoted on CNN as calling Saddam a "piece of trash" tonight.

I come from the "polite, civil days" in American society where elected and Cabinet official is the White House didn't go around talking like third rate gangsters. "Bring 'em On!" "Take 'em out!" "Wanted Dead or Alive," "Kill, Kill, Kill"....Evil Doers," etc., etc.

Their diplomatic and social skills are very lacking.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 06:36 AM
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41. Yes, two of the lines in the Article refer to posts by thermo
The Article says: " Here are two others: ... Another vented: "Bush and his ilk are far, ..."
Both those lines are from the same poster - yet the Article implies, that they're from different authors.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 07:27 PM
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12. What a load of horseshit! And why do we care again what
Australian Free Republic says???

Look at the bullshit from this rag:

-"Here are some of the predictions, cited last week by Paul Wolfowitz, the Deputy Defence Secretary: civil war; destroyed oil wells; environmental catastrophe; famine; a refugee crisis; and the possibility of cleaning up after chemical and biological attacks.

None of this happened – in large part because of the astonishingly innovative and swift war plan. The most staggering result is that Kurds, Shi'ites and Sunnis are still on board for a united, democratic country.

But instead of reporting on this achievement, the press, which in large part opposed the war in the first place, has done all it can to turn this success into a "quagmire"."-

People, stop reading this shit! It's like DUers who watch Rush or Hannity...WHY?!?!?! :shrug:

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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 07:38 PM
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13. And some people wonder why . . . .
. . . elected Democrats steer clear of DU.

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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 07:52 PM
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14. Some kooks here, some kooks there,,,
and some disruptors who like to post flame-bait threads.

Many elected officials have staff who watch here. Some of their talking points and speeches are almost word for word from DU.A great public service we provide.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 07:57 PM
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16. They stay away with their real names
Do you really think that no elected Democrats read this site?

That's like believing that Trent Lott doesn't have a screen name over at Free Republic.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 08:09 PM
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19. In terms of posting here and saying who they are
nt
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 08:24 PM
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23. Quit worrying
You'll find stuff that'll curl your hair on the sewing circle board your grandma posts to. There's no such thing as a board without beyond-the-pale comments.
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 10:15 PM
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33. two
there are two democrats that are elected officals that post here....isn't one of them Maine Mary? We've also had one that ran in Florida and another that's going to run. I'm horrible with names so If someone here wants to help me out on this feel free too.
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5thGenDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:02 PM
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35. Names
JCMach ran in Florida and PBinOregon (Peter) ran in, well, Oregon, in the 2002 campaigns.
John
Lives in the 5th Congressional District, Michigan, represented by Dale Kildee (D).

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KCDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 09:45 PM
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31. more likely, he has a screen name here!
Seriously, I'm absolutely positive that some of our posters are or work for Repug politicians. It's in their best interest, just as it's in ours to keep moles at FR.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 08:08 PM
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18. Stand up proudly, my fellow evil DUers
Edited on Wed Jul-30-03 08:09 PM by Jack Rabbit
To be dissed by Murdoch's fishwrap rag is a badge of honor.
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 08:13 PM
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21. Murdoch showing his true colors
The article was about a supposed anti war on Iraq bias IN THE PRESS. They quote "commentators" on DU as if DU is part of the "liberal media" instead of ordinary citizens expressing their opinions. Typical sleazy yellow journalism like that seen on Fox "News".
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shirlden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 08:19 PM
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22. Talk about "Spin"
Mr. Sullivan is doing a bit of a spin with the facts, himself, I would say. Gee, Andy, are we looking at the same situation in Iraq? I am sorry to say that I did not recognize what you were talking about. Perhaps you should get a little comprehension testing done. You seem to have some problems in that area. Just a friendly suggestion.This Duer would like you to know that I am just so happy that the "evil brothers" were terminated by our marvelous and wonderful leader, who has been so effective in getting the love and respect of the Iraqi peoples for all of us Murikans. God save Chimp, the King, and greetings to the honorable Mr. Murdoch.
Please understand that not all of us here at DU are insufferable idiots.....can we say the same for you ??

:evilgrin:
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 08:24 PM
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24. This site exists for the forum members, not the politicians.
In any political discussion board, you are going to have a wide spread of opinions, and often there are those opinions that are - for the lack of a better word - deviant from the rest. This is the _internet_ we are talking about here.

What this Austrailian Murdoch paper is tyring to do is take an odd piece of opinion on DU and pass it off as representative of the whole. It is not, and I do not think that you should so observingly follow their assertion.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 08:44 PM
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26. If you've had little or no press, even bad press is good.
I'm happy to see the negative press, bring it on! People will check out DU and see for themselves what it is "really" all about.


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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 05:41 AM
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40. Long time ago
I worked for a prestigious PR firm in NYC. Lesson #1 It doesn't matter what they say as long as they keep talking. ;-)

Just a little reminder:

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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 08:49 PM
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28. Just Spell Our name right?
I guess being equated with the locus of Earthly Evil might get a few eyeballs here
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 09:37 PM
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29. funny how Sully doesnt pay attention to some stuff
Like SoCalDem's idea for a troop package and the many who wanna help out and our prayers for our hospitalized friend rbync and sympathies. Maybe what thermody said was a little off but I've seen much sicker said and I think Sully delibartely paid attention to this dont worry folks this ass will be gone before we know it.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 09:41 PM
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30. Funny how you never see Freeper comments in the "news"
They say much much MUCH more horrific stuff than that, including a fairly frequent fantasizing about murder of liberals.

Odd that...
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:33 PM
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36. wonder what Sully would think if he saw their gay threatening
sully is gay for those who dont know then saw some of us support gay marriage. Sully grow up you all are worse and you knows it.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 12:07 AM
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39. Sully knows
He's just willfully oblivious to it. You should see the occasional dark nights of the soul he endures when faced with gay-hating eruptions from the likes of Santorum or Scalia. It's funny to watch when his beloved party rewards his relentless partisanship by piercing him where it hurts the most.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 07:24 AM
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45. Obviously, you don't get it
promoting the death of liberals is a good thing. :eyes:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:57 PM
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38. and people wonder why I piss on obvious trolls
this is exactly what we don't need. Should we be as pure as tibetan monks? No. Should we at least NOT suggest that Uday and Qusay are just innocent party animals caught in the crossfire? YES!

BUNNYHOP, your mission is now complete, you've discredited us in at least one major news source, you can fuck off now.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 06:37 AM
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42. It was'nt a troll
It was Thermodynamic, who's been around quite a while now. See posts above.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 06:41 AM
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43. They call it anti-war 'hysteria'...
...which shows the slant of the article.

- As the great CIC (who saved us from 9-11) says: who cares what they think?
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 06:45 AM
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44. It was originally a Lounge thread
So the discussion was a little "colorful" at the beginnning.

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FubarFly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 07:24 AM
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46. Hilarious
I'd never thought I's see the day a Murdoch rag would print stuff like:

"the wretched little bastard occupying the White House"

"W's grotesque shrivelled face"

"Bush and his ilk are far, far worse than Saddam"

Thanks Rupert :hi:

You just made my day. :evilgrin:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 09:22 AM
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47. America has a moral mirror image of the Ba'ath party!
See Freepville:

dAnn would love to do the stuff Saddam's devilish offspring have done to those victims of theirs, to democrats like us here at DU! The Reich wingers don't use swords, they use stealthy lies, pipe bombs and stolen elections!

Until we have free and fair elections in which the citizens all trust a fair and honest outcome, we are equally apt to end up with rogues running things just like in any other banana republic, being run by secretive, selfserving, greedy, Evil, banana republicans serving their own special interests!

I've even see now, that it's been said the Mighty Righties are giving dAnn's caustic, namecalling new book away for free! That is like pouring slop over a pig's head! The piggy could give a flying f??k less about being made a fool of, but just it goes on sucking up that easily obtained free slop and loving every minute of it!

The pig also will not notice if the slop is rank or not, because it's feeding time at the old pigsty and that's all that matters! Everyone knows that a lazy hawg has no clue it is soon to be converted into a pile of porkchops, by it's blindly trusted pal who furnishes the daily easily obtained ration of rancid slop! The uncurious piggy has grown to expect, without ever expending any effort to obtain!(Mental Wellfare)(Being Led By Misleaders)

Higher up the foodchain we find the critters who have more functional brains and who use those brains to go and look for something better than slop to consume and digest! The higher animals resent beeing made fools of by someone who demands their blind respect instead of someone who earns their respect! The higher animal has the tools to avoid the evil ones who would prey on them after they have made fools of them, over and over and over!

The higher animal has a huge mental advantage over the lazy pig, because it's superior brain function allows it to ask questions!(when, where, who, what, why, WOLF*??????)

That's why you'll always find the critters who can ask those IMPORTANT questions eating well, at a place like DU where the fare is rare!

Mrs. Clinton's book is still being sold everywhere because it has real value, dAnn's book can be had now without nearly as much effort to obtain, but you get what you pay for!

The Wolves and Wolvawitzes just keep on Huffing, Puffing, Stuffing and Blowing little houses down to get what they want!
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