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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:55 AM
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Does anyone have the names of PNAC members who tried to persuadeClinton
to attack Iraq in 1998? I know Rumsfeld was one and I'd the names of at least two others to strengthen a rebuttal I'm going to make of a letter that appeared in the local paper.A story link would be great.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 01:03 AM
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1. On their own website
http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

Elliott Abrams Richard L. Armitage William J. Bennett

Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky

Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad

William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W. Rodman

Donald Rumsfeld William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber

Paul Wolfowitz R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick

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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 01:03 AM
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2. look at the bottom of this page:
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pnziii Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 01:03 AM
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3. PNAC
Rumsfeld was one. Just go to thier web site. They have a copy of the letter posted there.
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 01:28 AM
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4. ton o' links to stories here
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 02:24 AM
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6. PNAC Wants to do Genocide by Germ Warfare
http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

especially when you get to page 60:

"And advanced forms of biological warfare
that can "target" specific genotypes may
transform biological warfare from the realm
of terror to a politically useful tool."

;(:mad::wtf::scared::mad:;(:scared::mad:

Is it any wonder that we call them Nazis?
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 02:49 AM
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8. I have read that section before ....
and NEVER noticed the significance of that terminology ...

""target" specific genotypes " ... IE use WMD that target specific human races ???? ... FUCK ! .... this is an awful thing to even consider ....

" .. may transform biological warfare from the realm
of terror to a politically useful tool. ... " ...

Wow .... the hubris and ego are breathtaking ...

And these are just the ASSH*LES who would so this ....

Perhaps calling them mere NAZI'S is too kind ....
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 02:15 AM
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5. Here's something
Edited on Mon Jan-19-04 02:20 AM by bigtree
Ominously, in the fall of 2002 the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq (Chairman of the Board, Bruce Jackson), was established in the Washington offices of the right-wing American Enterprise Institute. The CLI engaged in educational and advocacy efforts to mobilize U.S. and international support for policies aimed at ending the regime of Saddam Hussein.

This advocacy came at the same time that Condoleezza Rice and Stephen Hadley were engaged in a series of briefings with foreign policy groups, Iraq specialists and other opinion makers that was termed as a "new phase," by a White House spokesman, who described the goal as building fresh public support for Bush administration policy vs. Iraq.

Members of the CLI met in November of 2002 with President Bush's national security adviser, Condi Rice, in an effort to mount "education and advocacy efforts to mobilize U.S. and international support freeing the Iraqi people from tyranny."

Members of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq included, John McCain, Newt Gingrich, William Kristol, General Barry McCaffrey, and former CIA director James Woolsey. (Woolsey recently proposed the reinstatement of a constitutional monarchy in Iraq, in which a king would appoint the prime minister.)

George Shultz, Amb. Jeane J. Kirkpatrick, Under Secretary for Arms Control and International Security John Bolton, and Elliot Abrams were also involved with the group. Abrams and Bolton are founding members of the CLI.

Among the other participants in the CLI were: president and executive director, Randy Scheunemann (Scheunemann served until recently as a consultant on Iraq to Donald Rumsfeld), Treasurer Julie Finley, Gary Schmitt (director of the conservative foundation, Project for the New American Century) and Richard Perle, (chairman of Rumsfeld's Defense Policy Board), who is also closely associated PNAC.

In Dec. 2002 members of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq met with National Security Council officials to discuss the administration’s analysis of Iraq's declaration that it possessed no weapons of mass destruction.

After the conference, committee chairman Bruce Jackson stated that, "The administration has been forced to the unavoidable conclusion. The regime of Saddam Hussein has blatantly disregarded UN Security Council Resolution 1441 which calls for an "accurate, full and complete" account of its programs to develop weapons of mass destruction," he said. "The Iraqi Declaration is clearly non-compliant."

"Peaceful disarmament is not possible without the full cooperation of the Iraqi regime," said Jackson. This was echoed by Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, who testified before a Senate committee in Jan. 2003 that "without active cooperation, the peaceful disarmament of Iraq is not going to be possible."

The CLI lobbied for the installation of the so-called Iraqi National Congress to replace the Hussein dictatorship.This group was the creation of the U.S. Congress which, following testimony from Ahmed Chalabi, and defense policy executive, Zalmay Khalilzad, passed the Iraq Liberation Act in 1998, and sanctioned the new U.S. policy of regime change. Almost $100 million in taxpayer funds was provided to the group.

Feith used Chalabi's web of misinformation about Iraqi WMD's to develop a rationale for war against Saddam; including the ‘intelligence' that Saddam was conspiring with bin Laden.

Feith is known for a 1996 paper he co-authored and presented to President Clinton advocating the overthrow of Saddam Hussein. The letter was also signed by Richard Perle, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, and others.

In the letter they argued that, "In the present climate in Washington, some may misunderstand and misinterpret strong American action against Iraq as having ulterior political motives. We believe, on the contrary, that strong American action against Saddam is in the national interest, that it must be supported, and that it must succeed."

These are excerpts plucked from my manuscript, 'Power Of Mischief"


References:


http://www.counterpunch.org/nimmo1119.html

http://www.aei.org/

http://www.truthout.com/docs_03/022803A.shtml (Blood Money, William Rivers Pitt) (PNAC Files) http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=3021&forum=DCForumID12

http://www.publicintegrity.org/dtaweb/report.asp?ReportID=514&L1=10&L2=10&L3=0&L4=0&L5=0

http://usinfo.state.gov/topical/pol/terror/02110803.htm

http://www.un.org/News/dh/iraq/iraq-blue-e-110702-1198.pdf

http://www.usnewswire.com/topnews/qtr1_2003/1219-120.html

http://www.state.gov/s/d/rm/17094.htm

http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/inc.htm

http://www.iraqlawfirm.com/

http://www.thedubyareport.com/iraq2.html
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 02:30 AM
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7. Douglas J. Feith
Douglas J. Feith, Under Secretary of Defense for Policy and Director of Iraq reconstruction is one of Chalabi's main shills in the Pentagon.

Co-author Feith was one of about five members of the Bush administration who formed a separate ‘special plans office' in October 2001, whose purpose was to collect information from the CIA and the intelligence community to develop their own strategy for the war on terrorism. The group highlighted "interrelationships among terrorist organizations and state sponsors." They claimed "strategic alliances between Al-Qaeda and Iraq, despite the argument that such an alliance would have to withstand deep ideological and religious differences.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 03:53 AM
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9. Does anyone have the link to the CNN story about the letter from 98?
I can't find it although I know I have seen it before.

It basically talks about what they are proposing and then says that Clinton rejected it because it would be too expennsive and would lack international support
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 04:14 AM
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10. what amazes me in people that I talk to
is that nobody, still, has heard of PNAC. Even among the fairly enlightened and informed people that I find myself talking to day to day.

It blows my mind how unreported PNAC is, and how people have absolutely NO IDEA who's actually running the country.
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