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OneAngryDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 07:11 PM
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A Balanced Budget Amendment? We Think Not.
We've heard a lot of talk coming out of Washington these last few weeks about the national debt, and, especailly from the radical right, about "making government spend within their means." While no fan of government waste, the latest hare-brained idea idea to come from the Tea Party-led GOP really takes the cake.

Sometime next week Senate republicans intend to bring to the floor a 'Balanced Budget' Amendment that, presumably, would force the Federal government to spend no more money than what it takes in.

At face value, the idea has some appeal... after all, American families can't spend more than they take in, right?

Well, actually, the answer is "no."

Average Americans thrive on credit, and the United States' government does, too. That's why our Founding Fathers specifically spelled out in unambiguous terms that the government could - and therefore should be able to - borrow on credit (Article One, Section 8).

Why, then, would Senate republicans want to discard the wisdom of the men who wrote the U.S. Constitution, and openly advocate for one of the cornerstones of the Confederate Constitution?

Well, as it turns out, there's "debt", and then there's "DEBT".

One is spending money we don't have, now, and the other is spending money we won't have, ever.

Senate Republicans want the American people to convieniently forget that our national debt jumped to the astronomical (at the time) number of $6 trillion after the Bush tax cuts were enacted in 2002.

"Don't worry," we were told, then: wealthy Americans will use their tax breaks to create good paying jobs, and the tax revenues from those new jobs will fill up the empty coffers.

6 years later (2008), and the national debt had climbed to $11 trillion, with nothing to show for it - the promised tax revenues having never materialized.

Fast-forward past TARP I, TARP II, and the Rebuilding America Act - which, incidentally, was another tax break package - and we have one helluva budget deficit ($14 trillion), and a Republican Party that doesn't want to repeal the very tax breaks that caused the lion's share of the deficit in the first place, and is openly campaigning to dismantle Social Security and Medicare.

Now, after maxing out the nation's credit cards, the GOP wants to rip them all up, and send the nation's bill to those who are the least able to pay, and were oh-so trusting when the Republicans sold them the idea of the "do-nothing" Bush tax cuts in the first place?

We think not.

A better plan than denying the nation the ability to borrow on credit would be to pay what it is that we owe, and if that means repealing those tax breaks the GOP loves so very much, so be it.

Its called "taking responsibility" - something the GOP pays lip service to, but seldom lives up to.

Del Wasso,
A community organizer for the Rockford Sons of Liberty
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 07:16 PM
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OneAngryDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 07:20 PM
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2. Your point?
My post was designed to persuade Americans that passing a balanced budget amendment isn't a good idea, and that simply paying off our debt was.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 07:34 PM
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OneAngryDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 08:36 PM
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5. I disagree...
Edited on Thu Jul-14-11 08:40 PM by OneAngryDemocrat
And your elitist point of view isn't appreciated one bit.

The people deserve the government they vote for.

If they vote for a government that drains the coffers with deficit growing tax-cuts, then so be it.

That is still no reason to hamstring a more responsible future Congress.

You make a compelling argument, sir, for voting more wisely - but NOT for a balanced budget amendment.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 08:53 PM
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OneAngryDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 09:00 PM
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8. Any time...
Whatever, right back at ya.

Congrats on finally breaking 100 posts.

LOL!!!
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wizstars Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 09:45 PM
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9. 50%+ of the 'murkanpeople voted for George Bush, too--
which proves that at least more than half of us are stoopid. So I have no trouble imagining that another 15% are uneducated or misinformed.....

The fact that they are a sizable majority doesn't make 'em right.....
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Ragnarok Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 07:29 PM
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3. Not much to this lecture...
...other than identifying the Republicans as the culprits, which we are aware of already. I see no problem with some legislation that limits borrowing in some way related to income. We aren't an American family with credit card debt, so as the analogy doesn't persuade me when the right uses it, it also seems ignorant when people who should know better use it. Raise taxes, but quit mortgaging my ass to every country with some spare change. Keep writing those checks, and you can pay it back without me. I'm getting sick of both sides in this.
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OneAngryDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 08:39 PM
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6. The only reason...
Edited on Thu Jul-14-11 08:43 PM by OneAngryDemocrat
The only reason "bad checks" (you're unapplicable analogy, Ragnarok), were written in the first place was because the GOP drained the account - not because the funds weren't ever there.

Your elitist "the people aren't smart enough to vote wisely" point of view isn't appreciated one bit.

The people deserve the government they vote for.

If they vote for a government that drains the coffers with deficit growing tax-cuts, then so be it.

That is still no reason to hamstring a more responsible future Congress.

You make a compelling argument, sir, for voting more wisely - but NOT for a balanced budget amendment.


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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 04:38 AM
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10. +1,000,000! Or a trillion or so, since it is meaningless to Repubs
who only EVER get excited about balancing the budget when a Democrat is in the WH.

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