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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 12:12 PM
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Nuclear Power - One of Humankind's Biggest Mistakes
From Jim Bell:

"Its latest rational is that nuclear power will produce fewer greenhouse gases than what would be produced using fossil fuels to make electricity. This is true if one only looks at what happens inside a reactor. It's not true when accounting for all the fossil fuel energy consumed during nuclear power's fuel cycle, and what it takes to build, operate and dismantle plants when they wear out. Additionally, even if nuclear power was ended today, fossil fuel energy must be consumed for millennia in order to protect the public from the radioactive residues that nuclear power has already generated.

An increasing number of former industry and non-industry experts are saying that at best nuclear power releases slightly fewer greenhouse gases to the atmosphere than if the fossil fuels embodied in it had been burned to make electricity directly."

http://www.culturechange.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=307&Itemid=1&mosmsg=Thanks+for+your+vote%21


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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 12:56 PM
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1. notice no one got to vote for/against it!
I think Jesus Christ was, in part, political in that 2000 years ago he warned HUMANITY that the lie is faster and easier to believe then truth, and greed makes lying profitable, and the world will survive until one day ....maybe hurricanes grow so vast entire atmosphere is clocked at over 300kph and growing! Now Jesus had no idea about global warming or holocausts or military spending or 'fait accompli' policies etc but he truly understood our selfishness, and tried to warn humanity that one day we go way too far, and...and no way to stop. The reason i emphasise religion is that the dominant christian part is so utterly violent and cruel- murdering like there no tomorrow. And nothing can stop the fascasts but their own bloody selves; and nuke power is just an example of how utterly devoid of imagination the rightwing fool true believers are. They hate life, and want life to end (they're now trying to make JP 2nd a saint, when he was just a rightwing boor who fought progress to a standstill for nearly 30 years- JP 1st was murdered by the fascists)
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 01:38 PM
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2. Read Jared Diamond...
...it's not half as bad as agriculture.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 02:06 PM
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3. Safe Nuclear Power
Passively safe reactors rely on nature to keep them cool
"In the first test, with the normal safety systems intentionally disabled and the reactor operating at full power, Planchon's team cut all electricity to the pumps that drive coolant through the core, the heart of the reactor where the nuclear chain reaction takes place. In the second test, they cut the power to the secondary coolant pump, so no heat was removed from the primary system.
Chart of reactor core temperature during 1986 passive safety tests."

"In both tests," Planchon says, "the temperature went up briefly, then the passive safety mechanisms kicked in, and it began to cool naturally. Within ten minutes, the temperature had stabilized near normal operating levels, and the reactor had shut itself down without intervention by human operators or emergency safety systems."
http://www.anl.gov/Media_Center/logos20-1/passive01.htm

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Safe Nuclear Power
"The question arises anew, can nuclear energy be safely harnessed to provide for humanity's electrical power needs? The answer is yes, but not in its current design form. There are potential nuclear power designs--for example, using radioactive thorium as fuel rather than uranium, or using traveling wave technology--that do not risk power-plant disaster. They also significantly curtail both of the other two terrible dangers of the current uranium design: spent fuel disposal and terrorist theft. These two alternative design technologies are being explored in India and China respectively. (They are too "hot potatoes" politically to explore in this country.)

Nuclear power can be safe, but because of the political and sociological issues that have come to surround it, it is problematic whether or not it can contribute to saving humanity from our energy hunger and the climate destruction our profligate use of fossil fuels has precipitated."
http://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/212-212/5457-safe-nuclear-power

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"But amid a strong, worldwide nuclear backlash, it's important to remember that the next generation of nuclear reactors are designed to prevent exactly what went wrong at the 40-year-old Fukushima Daiichi plant. Which is good, because according to the experts, a future weaned from fossil fuels will include nuclear power whether we like it or not. Here's what that future may look like.

>SNIP<
Can Next-Generation Reactors Power a Safe Nuclear Future?
It’s too early to begin tallying the lessons learned in Japan, but technically speaking most of what’s gone wrong with Fukushima Daiichi's 1970s-era reactors has already been learned and accounted for in the latest nuclear power plant technology.

Keeping a nuclear plant safe means keeping it cool in any circumstances, including those in which man-made or natural disaster knocks out the usual cooling methods. This highlights the importance of safety features built into so-called Generation III-plus nuclear plant models, the latest feasible plant designs. These redundant and passive safety systems work without the help of an operator, or even electricity, during times of duress, be it man-made or natural."
http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2011-03/beyond-fukushima-daiichi-can-better-reactors-provide-safe-nuclear-powered-future

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All that needs to be done is to replace the older design nuclear reactors with newer, safer designs. Designs that simply can not melt down in any worse case scenarios. Make the reactors themselves government run and controlled. There have been no accidents in our Nuclear Fleet. No ships have been lost, nobody has died. It can be done. It has been done.
The electricity the newer generation reactors produce could still be businesses controlled.

People fear what the do not understand and it is quite obvious by some of the statements made by the Anti-nukes some clearly do not understand.
Nuclear power is still in its infancy. We are still learning. Far fewer people die from nuclear power than by any fossil power sources.
People die in care crashes. We did not ban cars, we made them safer. The same is being done with nuclear power generation.
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peace4ever Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 02:14 PM
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4. We need a better way to boil water, not to mention to generate our electricity
not only is nuclear fuel dangerous in production, but also it's waste product, which we still do not have an answer for, and why they are stored on site.

the nuclear energy industry, and their partners, have proven to be unreliable and untrustworthy, at this point.

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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-11 04:20 PM
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5. The Lesson to be LEARNED from Fukushima:
As long as we continue to use Nuclear Plants,
It WILL happen again!!!

The Pro-NUKES claim that Nuclear Power is SAFE
because the new plants have been "engineered" to withstand Natural Disasters and Terrorist Attacks
has been completely (and hopefully forever) DEBUNKED!


It WILL happen again!!!

Its only a matter of time.
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