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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:44 AM
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Ayn Rand Railed Against Government Benefits, But Grabbed Social Security and Medicare When She Neede
Ayn Rand Railed Against Government Benefits, But Grabbed Social Security and Medicare When She Needed Them
At least she put up a fight before succumbing to the imperatives of the real world.
January 29, 2011 |

Ayn Rand was not only a schlock novelist, she was also the progenitor of a sweeping moral philosophy that justifies the privilege of the wealthy and demonizes not only the slothful, undeserving poor but the lackluster middle-classes as well.

Her books provided wide-ranging parables of "parasites," "looters" and "moochers" using the levers of government to steal the fruits of her heroes' labor. In the real world, however, Rand herself received Social Security payments and Medicare benefits under the name of Ann O'Connor (her husband was Frank O'Connor).

As Michael Ford of Xavier University's Center for the Study of the American Dream wrote, In the end, Miss Rand was a hypocrite but she could never be faulted for failing to act in her own self-interest.

Her ideas about government intervention in some idealized pristine marketplace serve as the basis for so much of the conservative rhetoric we see today. The reason I got involved in public service, by and large, if I had to credit one thinker, one person, it would be Ayn Rand, said Paul Ryan, the GOP's young budget star at a D.C. event honoring the author. On another occasion, he proclaimed, Rand makes the best case for the morality of democratic capitalism.

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http://www.alternet.org/story/149721/ayn_rand_railed_ag...



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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:52 AM
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1. Hypocrisy never fails...
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 06:08 AM
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3. Actually, I'm not sure it's hypocrisy...
Edited on Sat Jan-29-11 06:09 AM by regnaD kciN
Rand was a Grade-A egocentric jerk (not to mention an appallingly-bad novelist), but I don't necessarily think it's hypocritical to collect from government benefit programs into which you've already paid. I mean, she made millions from her novels (no accounting for public taste), and no doubt paid a lot more in withholding than most of us ever will -- as a matter of fact, I'm pretty certain that any benefits she could have collected wouldn't even come close to what she'd paid in. I can easily see how a case can be made for "getting my own money back," particularly with her me-first philosophy. In fact, I suspect she'd reply that refusing to collect your legally-entitled benefits, for which you've already paid, as a matter of "principle" would actually constitute self-sacrifice, which is among the most immoral acts according to her rather-skewed moral compass.

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SharksBreath Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 06:16 AM
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4. Nah. It's hypocrisy. It's a Republican trait.
Now that Rick Perry. I say all republicans should do what he says. Give up your government jobs because it's wrong for them to rail against the same thing that pays their bills.

"Governor calls on Republican voters to resign from State Government.
It is only fair that teachers and state employees who voted Republican should be the first to lose their tax funded jobs.

Today Governor Perry called upon the voters of Texas who supported his agenda of less spending and small government to help achieve this goal by voluntarily resigning from public service. "I am calling on voters who put the Republican party in control over the last 10 years to leave their state funded job and transition into the private sector." said Perry at a press conference."
http://bayareahouston.blogspot.com/2011/01/texas-gov-as...


Now that's standing up for what you believe.

The guy has balls the size of Texas.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 09:30 AM
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7. If she made millions, she died without them. Big Genius.
She was a McCarthyite, a Benzedrine abuser (speed) a Goldwater Republican. I'd have to see proof that she made millions. In her later years, she was all hot to make a TV movie of one of her books starring Farrah Fawcette, and if ever there was s sign of financial need, that would be it.
It is very amusing to note the way Rand is viewed by her supporters and then read what she actually did, and what she did was clutch wildly at mainstream success, play up to Hollywood, drop tons of bennies, and lived the high life until the money ran out. Aside from the 'philosophy' she was Charlie Sheen, or any number of other self indulgent mid grade talents in showbiz history.
To call her a hypocrite is almost being kind to the reality of who she really was and how she really lived.
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:15 PM
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12. If Any Rand made millions, she paid a smaller percentage of her earned income into FICA than most.
I don't know what the income cap was at the time Ayn Rand was around, but it's a good bet the cap was substantially below the earned income she made.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 05:20 PM
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13. exactly.
You pay INTO Social Security. So collecting it is getting (some) of your money back. I would imagine she paid in far more than she was returned.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 06:02 AM
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2. Our recent economic woes
illustrate just how completely wrong she was. We are the victims of wealthy "parasites", "looters" and "moochers". Through their criminal malfeasance our future as a nation has been severely compromised.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 07:11 AM
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5. In all fairness, she probably paid into SS over the years
so taking back her money is not exactly being on the dole.

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Fuddnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 08:59 AM
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6. No, but she's a big fucking Hypocrite.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 09:33 AM
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8. She claimed the system itself was wrong
She's the one that called it the dole, you see. That is the issue. She barked at others for taking the benefits she eventually took herself. That is hypocrisy. It was wrong for others, fine for herself. That is hypocrisy.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 02:05 PM
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9. Yes, there was hypocrisy involved. But you can make that claim about anyone.
Edited on Sat Jan-29-11 02:06 PM by ixion
I am a hypocrite, for example, based on the fact that my tax dollars go to fund hostile occupations abroad which I oppose. So to take it to this extreme simply to make a point about a person long since passed, and whose 'disciples' are unimpressive, corrupt and anathema to what she was originally talking about, is literally beating a dead horse.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 02:08 PM
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10. I think she was a troubled bitter person,that no one should listen to.
Or take seriously,let alone follow.
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 03:02 PM
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11. Yep
I started college as an architecture major. She has a cult following among some architects thanks to "The Fountainhead." But I have never understood how she managed to be taken seriously by so many people.
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