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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 09:05 AM
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WikiLeaks may make the powerful howl, but we are learning the truth
I have lost count of the politicians and opinion formers of an authoritarian bent warning of the dreadful damage done by the WikiLeaks dump of diplomatic cables, and in the very next breath dismissing the content as frivolous tittle-tattle. To seek simultaneous advantage from opposing arguments is not a new gambit, but to be wrong in both is quite an achievement.

Publication of the cables has caused no loss of life; troops are not being mobilised; and the only real diplomatic crisis is merely one of discomfort. The idea that the past two weeks have been a disaster is self-evidently preposterous. Yet the leaks are of unprecedented importance because, at a stroke, they have enlightened the masses about what is being done in their name and have shown the corruption, incompetence – and sometimes wisdom – of our politicians, corporations and diplomats. More significantly, we have been given a snapshot of the world as it is, rather than the edited account agreed upon by diverse elites, whose only common interest is the maintenance of their power and our ignorance.

The world has changed, not simply because governments find they are just as vulnerable to the acquisition, copying and distribution of huge amounts of data as the music, publishing and film businesses were, but because we are unlikely to return to the happy ignorance of the past. Knowing Saudi Arabia has urged the bombing of Iran, that Shell maintains an iron grip on the government of Nigeria, that Pfizer hired investigators to disrupt investigations into drugs trials on children, also in Nigeria, that the Pakistan intelligence service, the ISI, is swinging both ways on the Taliban, that China launched a cyber attack on Google, that North Korean has provided nuclear scientists to Burma, that Russia is a virtual mafia state in which security services and gangsters are joined at the hip – and knowing all this in some detail – means we are far more likely to treat the accounts of events we are given in the future with much greater scepticism.

Never mind the self-serving politicians who waffle on about the need for diplomatic confidentiality when they themselves order the bugging of diplomats and hacking of diplomatic communications. What is astonishing is the number of journalists out there who argue that it is better not to know these things, that the world is safer if the public is kept in ignorance. In their swooning infatuation with practically any power elite that comes to hand, some writers for the Murdoch press and Telegraph titles argue in essence for the Chinese or Russian models of deceit and obscurantism. They advocate the continued infantilising of the public.

Nothing is new. In 1771, that great lover of liberty, John Wilkes, and a number of printers challenged the law that prohibited the reporting of Parliamentary debates and speeches, kept secret because those in power argued that the information was too sensitive and would disrupt the life of the country if made public. Using the arcane laws of the City of London, Alderman Wilkes arranged for the interception of the Parliamentary messengers sent to arrest the printers who had published debates, and in doing so successfully blocked Parliament. By 1774, a contemporary was able to write: "The debates in both houses have been constantly printed in the London papers." From that moment, the freedom of the press was born.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/dec/11/henry-porter-wikileaks-cables
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 09:10 AM
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1. Let them howl...
It's far more important that people know the truth.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 09:23 AM
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2. What have you learned that you did not know
Most of us knew the milldle east was worried about Iraq, Afghanistan leaders were corrupt, people can be snarky when reportIng on others.

I did learn that we try to spy on ambassadors by having people keep their eyes open and that includes credit card numbers but wikileaks would simply post them like they do SS numbers
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 01:51 PM
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6. Well, let's see...I learned that the Obama adminsitration and the
US state dept. leaned on Spain to crush the prosecution of Cheney and the rest of those monsters.

Wouldn't want to look back, doncha know. Disgusting!!!! :puke:



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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 02:02 PM
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7. Did you know the Obama administration tried to kill the investigation
of the killing of a Spanish journalist in order to protect the Pentagon?

What about our recruiting Peace Corps volunteers and Fullbright Scholars to spy for us in Bolivia?

What about the Pentagon underestimating by a factor of four the civilian casualties in Iraq, including the 600 that have been wasted at checkpoints?

What about the US interfering in the last Australian election?

Did you know we were turning prisoners over to certain torture in Iraq and the White House lied about it? They said the torture had stopped. Then they said, the Iraqis were in charge of the occupation.

And that's only 1% of the material they have.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 10:39 AM
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3. We've KNOWN it, Wikileaks has just CONFIRMED IT
Schwartz auf Weiss!!! :rofl:
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 10:56 AM
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4. The last paragraph you posted is PRICELESS.
Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 10:57 AM by Faryn Balyncd



:hi:



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LawnKorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 12:55 PM
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5. K&R
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