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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 11:56 AM
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Amend the Constitution – and Whatever Else It Takes to Break Corporate Power

Legislation to begin the process of amending the U.S. Constitution, introduced by Black Congresspersons John Conyers and Donna Edwards, “deserves broad support.” There is no greater enemy of mankind than the global corporation, which has now been empowered by the U.S. Supreme Court to further monopolize the American political conversation.

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 11:58 AM
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1. End Bailouts and Prosecute Fraud
following the Constitution would be the first step--but we can't even do that, can we?
Because that would mean war crimes trials.

Maybe when poopy Poppy is dead....
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 11:59 AM
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2. Not going to happen, but at least they are NOT starting from a position that automatically
Edited on Thu Feb-11-10 11:59 AM by T Wolf
eliminates anything positive from eventually resulting.

Unlike a certain "reform" effort that shall remain unfulfilled.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 12:00 PM
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3. Hear Hear, Ma'am!
"The trouble with our modern corporations is they have neither bodies to be kicked nor souls to be damned."
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 12:05 PM
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4. Bingo got it in one K & FKG R
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 12:20 PM
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5. institutions ultimately fail if the people in them are sufficiently corrupt.
i'm not sure how an amendment ultimately helps overturn the supremos' vastly corrupt decision. sure, on paper it does, but between the corporations and the supremos hell-bent on further corrupting the entire political process, they'll just find another way.

corporations will instead contribute to entities that they'll consider non-corporate, which will in turn do all the actual political contributions. dodgy, right? well, you can fight it all the way to the supreme court, where.... oh, damn!

THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT NEED AMENDING BECAUSE THE CONSTITUTION IS NOT UNCLEAR. it's the 5 reactionary supremos who have invented special, protected rights for corporations that aren't remotely contemplated in the constitution. there's NO LEGITIMATE READING of the constitution AS IS that lets any reasonable justice conclude that congress can't put limits on a special form of commercial organization that congress itself created. congress even has the power to revoke corporate charters or dispense with the corporate form of organization entirely, yet it can't regulate corporations? that makes no sense at all.

the proper CONSTITUTIONAL solution is to IMPEACH the assholes who are clearly abusing their powers.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 12:37 PM
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6. The only change needed is one that specifies that 'people' are PEOPLE,
and corporations do NOT have the rights of people. Those rights are reserved for the people who run the corporations, not the corporations themselves. Once corporate personhood is eliminated everything else will fall into place as then the people who run the corporation will be held accountable for whatever the corporation does.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 01:04 PM
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7. Give me a whip count in the House and the Senate...
You need a 2/3rds majority in each house. So you need 66 Senators and 290 Congressmen. The Senate can not use reconciliation to pass an amendment. At this time there are 59 (well sort of) Democrats in the Senate and 233 Democrats in the House. I can not see any way for an amendment to pass.

Then, you must get 3/4ths of th states to ratify the amendment, 38 states.

Other than that, you must have a Constitutional Convention, which must be called for by 2/3rds of the legislatures (34).

So I don't see anything like that happening.


What we need is to keep a Democrat in the White House for the next 12 years until enough of the Conservative members of the SCOTUS retire so they can reconsider this disastrous opinion.

Once you fuck up our system, it is very hard to fix.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 01:13 PM
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8. K&R.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 01:40 PM
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9. It takes the votes in congress and 3/4 of the states to approve a Constitution
Admendment doesn't it....I/m not sure.
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