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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:21 AM
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'Palinism' has become today's McCarthyism
Try this on for size: Palinism. What is it? It is an updated version of McCarthyism, which takes its name from the late Sen. Joseph McCarthy, the Wisconsin liar, demagogue and drunk, and means, according to Wikipedia, "reckless, unsubstantiated accusations, as well as demagogic attacks on the character or patriotism of political adversaries." As far as we know, Sarah Palin is not a drunk.

But she certainly shares McCarthy's other attributes - and this one as well: the ability to drive the debate. In McCarthy's day, it was anti-communism coupled with national security, and it hardly mattered that he frequently did not have his facts straight. He got huge amounts of attention anyway.

With Palin, the subject is health care, which in many ways is the Red Menace of our day and lends itself to a kind of political pornography. For sheer disregard of the facts, her statement about President Barack Obama's "death panels" has to rank with McCarthy's announcement that "I have here in my hand a list of 205" (or 57 or 72 or whatever) names of communists in the State Department. They were both false - McCarthy's by commission, Palin's probably by omission. She rarely knows her facts.
What was most depressing about McCarthy's career was not just the excesses of the man himself but the refusal of others, mainly his fellow Republicans, to either rein him in or defend his victims. Now, we are seeing something similar with Palin. Say what you will about any of the health-care proposals, not one of them suggests a "death panel" empowered to withhold medical services from the aged or the disabled. To suggest that one exists is reprehensible. To state it outright is either boldly demagogic or just plain loopy.

Yet you can beat the bushes to a fine powder and find only two Republicans of note - Sens. Johnny Isakson and Lisa Murkowski - who had the courage or the decency to tell Palin that she doesn't know what she's talking about. Certainly, this was not the case with Newt Gingrich, the former House speaker, who in fact virtually seconded Palin's charge. This is not just because Gingrich himself can be casual with the facts but because his urge to be politically expedient often overwhelms his convictions.

Sadly, the list of the meek includes Palin's Geppetto, John McCain, who fashioned her out of political desperation and has yet to whittle her down to size. In an update of the folk tale, I'd like to think that whenever he praises Palin, his own nose grows.

As with McCarthyism, Palinism is a product of its times. McCarthy exploited the public's fear of communism and communists. Not only were they abroad, but they were here in America - spies, fellow travelers, pinkos, apologists, intellectuals and short, bespectacled minorities. It was their very ubiquity and invisibility that made them so dangerous.

Health-care reform provides Palin with the same opportunity. The klutziness of Obama's effort - people think they know what they can lose but have no idea of what they can gain - again raises the specter of invisible forces. But as is almost always the case with right-wing populists, the shooter has aimed at her own foot. Palin's "death panel" remarks either killed or helped kill the proposal to offer end-of-life counseling. The victims will be the poor, the uninformed and the ideologically blind who will find themselves unable to make a graceful exit. The affluent have their living wills and such. The poor have only their grief.

McCarthy's career was mercifully short. He made his famous speech in 1950 and was censured by the Senate four years later. By 1957, he was dead. His rise was a product of a now-antiquated newspaper culture, but his fall was abetted by the advent of TV. Americans looked and were appalled. He was finished.

Palin, as wholesome as McCarthy was not, is ready-made for television. Still, she has gone from a 57 percent favorable rating soon after McCain picked her as his running mate to a current 39 percent - a negative landslide of justifiable proportions. Before she fades into fringedom, she will do one bad and one good thing - hurt the very people she supposedly champions and expose the appalling opportunism of the Republican leaders
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:24 AM
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1. McCarthyism, now available in MILF??
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:38 AM
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4. good one---I really did just laugh out loud
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:41 AM
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5. I get silly when I'm overtired. :^P
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:26 AM
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2. palin was a hoax, Mccarthy was a charlatan, just about the best the bastard
gop could ever muster.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 12:34 AM
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3. Maybe someday, if
Edited on Thu Aug-20-09 12:37 AM by Tangerine LaBamba
she were in a position of significant power. But, no, for me - and I am old enough barely to remember McCarthy, and my parents talking about him - she's not even close to what McCarthy was.

Palin can bleat all she wants about anything she chooses, but she lacks the subpoena power, the power to imprison people, the power to ruin reputations, careers, and lives.

McCarthy had that power, and he did all that.

No, she's just a shrill barking dog, looking to incite people just because she can. McCarthy, while I think he was nuts - and given how much he drank, it's entirely possible that he was already brain-damaged from all the hooch - had a very clear demon, and he was very focused - and well armed - as far as going after any and all people he considered to have made a comfortable place in their lives for Communism.

Palin has no one, a lot of people who think she's pretty neat, but no official position, no staff, no platform.

Among other things, Senator McCarthy had a young Robert F. Kennedy on his staff, and RFK was involved in McCarthy's televised hearings in 1954, something of which RFK was later not very proud, and it is to his credit that he resigned.

But, the comparison pretty much fails. As demagogues go, Palin is much better than McCarthy ever was. She's a gifted orator, and McCarthy was not. In today's HD age, he'd get absolutely nowhere in politics - sweaty, balding, shifty-eyed, and not brilliantly articulate. Palin's better at that than McCarthy, but, on all other facets of their comparison, nothing holds up.

There are some brilliant, wonderful books about Joe McCarthy and who he was, what he did to this country. This one is very good reading - http://www.amazon.com/Joseph-McCarthy-Reexamining-Americas-Senator/dp/0684836254/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1250746229&sr=8-1 and I liked this one very much, too, since it's written by an old friend of mind who's been a Washington insider for a long, long time - http://www.amazon.com/Shooting-Star-Brief-Arc-McCarthy/dp/015101082X/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1250746229&sr=8-4

(On edit): One of my heroes is Joseph Welch. If you don't know about this magnificent man, find out about him here - http://www.nndb.com/people/211/000162722/ - he changed history with just a few sentences, and saved many lives. A true American hero, Joseph Welch.

You made a very interesting post. Made me think. Thank you very much.................. :toast:

(An aside - never, ever rely on widipedia for any reliable, substantive information - it's a good starting point, but as a research tool, it's an utter waste of space and time.)
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:18 AM
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7. well, she ruined a lot of people's lives in AK
abused her power over and over, used the Dept of Law to get revenge on her personal enemies, etc.

And she does have power right now -- she's the Chosen Anointed of the Christian Mafia- the family, the Third Wave Dominionist who have power cells all around the world.

She may look and sound like a fool- hell, she is a fool - but she's got plenty of power behind her.

And she's casting doubt on Obama's legitimacy, creating "death panel" lies which become memes, etc.

I get where you're coming from, but I've been studying her for a while and there's a lot more going on with her as a Puppet for the Christian mafia than we see on the surface.

Her minions just ruined a few people's lives in AK who dared to report on her on their blogs. They were accused of being pedophiles and lost their jobs because Palin Cult members wrote their employers and accused them of being all kinds of things- including threats to shoot the blogger on the school grounds...which naturally concerned parents.

She only looks goofy and daffy. She's actually quite poisonous.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:42 AM
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8. I agree, and I never meant to imply
that she did a good job while she was Governor.

But, compared to what McCarthy did, Palin's a shadow. What she did in AK can be reversed legislatively, or at the ballot box.

What McCarthy did was to ruin entire lives, destroy careers, and you cannot get back years or suicides or educations that couldn't be afforded. You can't get back your youth and energy to write that brilliant book or screenplay.

Palin never had that kind of power, the kind that destroys irrevocably.

And her power now is only as a demagogue. She can do nothing except rile up the morons who pay homage to her. She's no more powerful than any of the televangelists. She holds no political office. I doubt she ever will again, and that will keep her on the idiot fringe.

But, her being poisonous in no way puts her in the same league as Joe McCarthy. He set a country on its head, and did things tht resonated through generations. If you're old enough to remember the "witch hunts," you know what I'm talking about. People committed suicide - quite a number of them - because of what Joe McCarthy did to them.

Palin is a mouthy woman without anything like the fevered focus and obsessive drive that defined McCarthy. He stood for something, hateful as it was. She stands for whatever she thinks of that day, beyond her regular rightwingnut crap.

And she's stupid. McCarthy was very, very smart.

I don't agree that she has "plenty of power behind her." Right now, she may have some wealthy backers, but they're also smart enough to know that she's little more than window dressing, someone who can make waves. But she's not someone who can effect change.

McCarthy changed so many things.

I agree with your assessment of Palin, but she doesn't even belong in the same category as McCarthy. Not that you advanced that comparison, but that's what this thread was about, so I wanted to bring it back on topic.....
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 10:33 AM
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10. good point
she doesn't stand for much and doesn't have the passion to follow much through (except trying to get people fired for personal reasons). Many people in AK had their entire lives ruined by her and are in prison, lost their jobs and families because of her. I'm certainly not comparing it to McCarthy's impact, but suggesting that should she have had the opportunity on the national level to have power, I wouldn't put it past her to have caused utter chaos and destruction.

You're right, I wasn't trying to advance the comparison, but rather point out that behind the facade of vacuousness, there lay a snake. I agree with much of what you've said, except for the dismissal of the people behind her. Since she was 24, they've been grooming her to lead the country in their takeover. Sure, it's easy to say she's stupid and we're smart and it won't happen -- but Bush. And he's a part of their club. Perhaps the main point is that Palin is a puppet of these people, whereas McCarthy was a brilliantly focused (however negatively) person.

I do agree that she can't effect change like McCarthy did and certainly isn't capable of doing much on her own.

You've inspired me to read more on McCarthy. Thanks for the very interesting discussion!
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 01:26 AM
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6. The MSM is "driving". Palin may as well be Miss Daisy, along for the ride and clueless.
She's a tool/fool being used against the rubes.

The MSM and (R)-corporates will dump that hillbilly dumbass in a heartbeat the second they find the next Republican star.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 05:16 AM
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9. I was thinking more like Bozoism
their clown makeup and large shoes are a bit of a giveaway
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