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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 09:48 AM
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GOP seeks its revival in the revolt against Obama's healthcare plan
Reporting from Washington - Conservatives are calling it their August Revolt -- a surprising upsurge of activism against President Obama's proposed healthcare overhaul.

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Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), chairman of the GOP's Senate campaign committee, was booed at a "tea party" rally in July for supporting the government bailout of the financial services industry.

And one of the GOP's most reliable conservatives, Rep. Bob Inglis of South Carolina, was shouted down at a recent town hall meeting when he criticized a conservative broadcaster and tried to counter claims that children would soon be forced to receive swine flu vaccinations.

"You cannot build a movement on something that is not credible," said a frustrated Inglis, referring to the vaccine issue and other false rumors being spread by more aggressive critics of the health bill.

Arousing the mob has always been a risky political strategy.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-health-gop16-2009aug16,0,5794904.story
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 09:56 AM
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1. they will get a revival if Obama caves to their tactics
only because his own support will dwindle, due to losing hope
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:11 AM
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2. He definitely should not allow their "attacks" to go unanswered.
Ever. But he ought not descend to their level either.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 04:23 PM
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9. Umm, its a little late for that
granted, the Senate Dems are as cowardly a bunch as you are likely to find, but the WH was also way too timid on the counterattack
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 04:51 PM
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10. Who appointed you to decide when it's too late?
Do you want to be a tool of the right wing?
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 05:19 PM
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11. The attacks have already won the day.
Answering them now is even more pathetic.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 05:33 PM
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12. I doubt that you are clairvoyant.
Edited on Sun Aug-16-09 05:33 PM by bemildred
You sound like either a paid tool or a "useful idiot".

If one actually favors reform of the health care system, one ought not be running around saying it is hopeless. That is a progaganda meme of the forces that oppose reform.

We have social security, and we have Medicare, we can reform the health care system too.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 09:03 PM
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15. Wrong and wrong
If I were a paid tool, I likely would have been exposed before my 16,000 post and 8th year. And I am certainly not an idiot.

What I am is an observer of and participant in the political process, as I have been since I was first allowed to vote in 1978. For the last 20 years, the Repukes have dragged this country from its status as the best in history, a beacon of freedom, tolerance, liberalism, and egalatarianism, to the most backward, hateful, despised, and right-wing of all the industrialized nations. And no one ever stands up to them as they do their worst. We're just now thinking up comebacks to their onslaught of lies and propaganda? Well, hooray.

We have Social Security because FDR told the people that seniors were no longer going to be impoverished. He didn't ask, and he didn't waffle or start pulling back as soon as the first insult was hurled. We have Medicare because LBJ decided too many people were poor, sick, and unnoticed, and he kicked ass and took names and willed it to be.

If you can't see the difference between those two situations and now, go look in the mirror to see a real useful idiot.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:03 PM
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16. FDR was elected in 1932.
He signed the Social Security Act in 1935. LBJ took office in 1963. He signed the Civil Rights act in 1964. In both cases there was a long public campaign to bring those changes about.

You said it is too late, and that the battle is over. It is you that is wrong and wrong. It is still entirely feasible to get a good health care bill, and you do not know any different. You are a quitter and a defeatist.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 11:27 AM
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5. He already has, and it already has
I think you can pretty much consider his presidency over. Who's going to support him now?
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:41 AM
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3. If Obama signs a good hcr bill, i.e. with public option, Dems' poll numbers will rise.
If not, it will be a worst case scenario where Democratic voters are demoralized and Republicans are emboldened going into 2010.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 04:22 PM
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8. According to Sebelius and Conrad today, there will be no public option
it's over. The terrorists won again.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 11:26 AM
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4. Judging from today's news, the revival is a done deal
Imagine a country run by McConnell, Boner, and Palin.

That's the US in 2013
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 11:41 AM
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6. Nonsense...
You're buying the media's reality.

Most of the country thinks Palin is an idiot, and the Republicans suck. These brownshirt tactics the GOP is employing are only whipping up their cranks 'n kooks base.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 04:21 PM
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7. The Town Hall Terrorists had a big hand in sinking health care reform
One reason that I am pessimistic about us staging a comeback is all of the head-in-the-sand Dems like yourself. If you keep on telling yourself that hate radio and Big Media only affect the loony fringe, it might make you sleep better at night now but it will make the day when the tanks roll down the streets much more painful
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 06:25 PM
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13. What I love is that they've now started to believe the lies they've knowingly fed...
Their constituency.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 06:27 PM
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14. Believing your own bullshit can get you in trouble. nt
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