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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 03:24 PM
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Talk Radio "Deathers" Campaign Frightening Seniors

Provision for End-of-Life Counseling Is Described by Right as 'Death Care'
by Ceci Connolly

A campaign on conservative talk radio, fueled by President Obama's calls to control exorbitant medical bills, has sparked fear among senior citizens that the health-care bill moving through Congress will lead to end-of-life "rationing" and even "euthanasia."

The controversy stems from a proposal to pay physicians who counsel elderly or terminally ill patients about what medical interventions they would prefer near the end of life and how to prepare instructions such as living wills. Under the plan, Medicare would reimburse doctors for one session every five years to confer with a patient about his or her wishes and how to ensure those preferences are followed. The counseling sessions would be voluntary.

But on right-leaning radio programs, religious e-mail lists and Internet blogs, the proposal has been described as "guiding you in how to die," "an ORDER from the Government to end your life," promoting "death care" and, in the words of antiabortion leader Randall Terry, an attempt to "kill Granny."

Though the counseling provision is a tiny part of a behemoth bill, the skirmish over end-of-life care, like arguments about abortion coverage, has become a distraction and provided an opening for opponents of the president's broader health-care agenda. At a forum sponsored by the seniors group AARP that was intended to pitch comprehensive reform, Obama was asked about the "rumors." He used the question to promote living wills, noting that he and the first lady have them.

Democratic strategists privately acknowledged that they were hesitant to give extra attention to the issue by refuting the inaccuracies, but they worry that it will further agitate already-skeptical seniors.

The side battle also undercuts what many say is the more fundamental challenge of discussing sensitive, costly societal questions about how to align patient wishes at the end of life with financial realities, for both the family and taxpayers.

"I don't think it's about cutting costs; it's about quality," said Tia Powell, director of the Montefiore-Einstein Center for Bioethics. Pointing to extensive research, she said: "The good news is if you get people in an environment that is of their choosing, where there is support and they have good pain control, it is very likely to extend their life."

Not since 2003, when Congress and President George W. Bush became involved in the case of Terri Schiavo, who lay in a vegetative state in a hospice in Florida, have lawmakers waded into the highly charged subject, said Howard Brody, director of an ethics institute at the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston.

The attacks on talk radio began when Betsy McCaughey, who helped defeat President Bill Clinton's health-care overhaul 16 years ago, told former senator Fred D. Thompson (R-Tenn.) that mandatory counseling sessions with Medicare beneficiaries would "tell them how to end their life sooner" and would teach the elderly how to "decline nutrition . . . and cut your life short."

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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 03:31 PM
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1. Take the fucking thing out of the bill and add it later....
Jesus Christ people are so fucking stupid in the country if they believe that...

What next, Obama's Run...
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 03:39 PM
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4. I know. Why can't they just take it out!
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 03:41 PM
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5. God must have loved the stupid people...
Since there are so damned many of them.

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 03:36 PM
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2. You gotta admit, the American right is very good at what they do
Whereas the hapless Dems- the so called "party of science" just dithers away and panders to elements on the right- time and time again failing to apply the principles.


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rogerhall Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 03:38 PM
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3. Contact "Dr. Deather" Herself
Let Elizabeth "Betsy" McCaughey (pronounced "McCoy") and her employers know that you do *not* appreciate her lies about healthcare reform!

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Let your sales representative know why!

Roger
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 03:53 AM
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7. it wouldn't matter the only thing we can do is tell this admin to get on the ball
and have a very tight message with ultra quick responses to the bs coming from the right
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 07:33 PM
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6. This afternoon at my sister's surprise party, my father's first words to me were
"Obama's going to pull the plug on me."

My father is a retired physician, age 86.

I groaned, "Jeez, have you been listening to GLEN again?"
"Joe Scar?"
"Rush?"
"Hannity?"

He denied any of them but I know he watches FOX News religiously.

I just got home. I'm guzzling my cold beer as a balm for this torture.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 03:54 AM
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8. yep there's only certain places to get that info
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 11:30 AM
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9. Let the "Deathers" go for broke and live an extra 48 hours
Edited on Mon Aug-03-09 11:33 AM by formercia
Let the survivors go bankrupt because of the medical bills.
Let them be selfish and give the Medical-Industrial complex their survivor's inheritance.
Let them suffer that much longer until they beg someone to help them die.

We will all die.

Life goes on without me.

http://www.leoslyrics.com/listlyrics.php?hid=FFhwduHdibg=

Just a gigolo
everywhere I go
people know the part
I'm playing

Paid for every dance
selling each romance
every night some heart
betraying

There will come a day
youth will pass away
then what will they say
about me

When the end comes I know
they'll say just a gigolo
as life goes on
without me

David Lee Roth
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