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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 07:05 AM
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Krugman: "It’s 1930 time"
From the Nobel Prize winner that DU loves to hate:

"Barry Eichengreen and Kevin O’Rourke have an alarming paper in Vox EU, showing that if you take a global view, the world slump since early 2008 is as bad or worse than the slump from 1929-30. It’s full of pictures like this one, showing monthly volume of world trade:



What this says is that the world economy right now is more or less at the point Keynes described in his essay The Great Slump of 1930.

What hasn’t happened — at least not yet — is any counterpart to the catastrophes of 1931: the wave of bank runs in the US, the failure of Credit Anstalt in Austria, and the great perverse response of central banks that was triggered by the death spasms of the gold standard.

What Eichengreen-O’Rourke show, it seems to me, is that knowledge is the only thing standing between us and Great Depression 2.0. It’s only to the extent that we understand these things a bit better than our grandfathers — and that we act on that knowledge — that we have any real reason to think this time will be better."


What a Gloomy Gus! Doesn't Krugman realize that if we just give another year of US GDP to bankers under "heads you win, tails we lose" rules then this will all work out for the best?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 08:10 AM
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1. Link please.....thanks...
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 09:16 AM
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4. Google is your friend....
Edited on Tue Apr-07-09 09:17 AM by Earth Bound Misfit
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Blue Meany Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 08:10 AM
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2. I think we should wait until we are at 1933-levels of dispair
Edited on Tue Apr-07-09 08:11 AM by Blue Meany
before actually doing anything to help those who are really in need.<sarcasm>
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 08:54 AM
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3. yeah but we ARE helping wall street with billions = kiss that $$ bye bye nt
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 02:22 PM
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8. It is not billions but trillions
Edited on Tue Apr-07-09 02:22 PM by truedelphi
If you were born the same day as Christ, and lived till now, and spent $ 100,000 a day, you still would not have spent a trillion dolalrs. The piper will want to be paid in terms of what Bush and obama have given away to the Wall Street Horde.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 11:23 PM
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11. and just think - the cost of the ILLEGAL Iraq WAR OF CHOICE BASED ON LIES is 4 TIMES that much!!!
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 02:23 AM
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13. I think of that all the time and especially whenever
The RW Repugs are up there saying how tight fisted THEY were with our monies. Damn Liars!
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 10:15 AM
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5. I'm just hoping that I can get a job being a personal slave, I mean servant, for one of
those bank CEO's or Wall Street financial wizards. Those will probably be the only "secure" jobs around. Other than security jobs protecting those assholes.

But today the NYT said that America is feeling all better about economic recovery, so we really don't have to worry about any of this depression stuff old Gloomy Gus keeps whining about.

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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 02:32 PM
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9. Sadly, I'm too old and ugly for that (sarcasm).
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 07:25 PM
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10. Lately my sarcasm cup runneth over. My "I can't fuckin' believe it" cup, too.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 10:34 AM
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6. "...knowledge is the only thing standing between us and Great Depression 2.0"
"...knowledge is the only thing standing between us and Great Depression 2.0. It’s only to the extent that we understand these things a bit better than our grandfathers — and that we act on that knowledge — that we have any real reason to think this time will be better."

Shut-up-shut-up-shut-up!!!1

You must be a FreeperNaderitePumaLeftyTroll or something!!!11

:yoiks: :yoiks: :yoiks:

;)

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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 11:35 AM
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7. Ooops - Link Here
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 10:22 AM
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12. Krugman, of course, is right, but we continue to reward the perpetrators.
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