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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 08:36 PM
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Have Bush and the Neocons Ruined it for the Israelis?
The Israeli propaganda blitz around their attack on Gaza has been greeted with uncharacteristic skepticism by the American public and even by some of the mainstream US press. Even the Jewish American community is uneasy about this one, in a way perhaps unparalelled since the 1982 Israeli attack on Lebanon and siege of Beirut. Jews for Peace in Los Angeles are actively protesting the Gaza atrocities, and newspaper articles from around the US on local protests held this weekend often mention mixed Arab-American and Jewish-American rallies.

If it is true that Americans are greeting Israeli talking points with more criticism this time, is it because we have been intensively exposed for the past 8 years to precisely this sort of mental manipulation by Bush-Cheney and their stable of Neoconservatives?


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Another half-truth is that Israel is involved in a "peace process" or supports Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, when in fact it has gone on stealing Palestinian land in the West Bank and making Palestinian lives miserable and colonizing them.

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By the way, since Tzipi Livni admitted Sunday that her government is resisting a diplomatic solution to Gaza and wants to keep the war going as long as possible, and that one impediment is "the pictures coming out of Gaza"-- i.e. of dead children and civilians and ordinary policemen, I'll just put in this link for those with a tough stomach. Not for the squeamish (and not an endorsement of the site). Here is another one; same caveats
http://www.juancole.com/2009/01/have-bush-and-neocons-ruined-it-for.html
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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 08:40 PM
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1. Bush has given Israel a bad example of war as the answer.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 08:41 PM
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2. greeted with uncharacteristic skepticism from ISRAELIS
They are pissed at the overkill
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 08:56 PM
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3. I Expect Israel Can Adequately Screw Themselves Over Without Any Help
especially when Uncle $ugar pays the bills.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 09:36 PM
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4. Buying good PR ain't cheap anymore.
I found this tidbit interesting, it's source has me skeptical as I can't read the original Italian, but it does seem to match up best I can tell.


Rome's Jewish Chairman inadvertently exposes Zionist trick!

The chairman of the Jewish Community of Rome, Riccardo Pacifici - voted in on a ticket expressly called "For Israel" - recently announced that the Union of Italian Jewish Communities (UCEI) was about to donate 300,000 Euros' worth of medicine to the victims of the war in Gaza: 200,000 to "the children and people of Gaza", 100,000 to the "children and civilians" of Israel.

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Pacifici explains that the Italian Jewish community agreed with the Israeli ambassador on keeping a "low profile"at this time. "I can assure you - writes Pacifici - that the decision to send medicine to Palestinian and Israeli children was taken only for media purposes, and was only used for our struggle which will start on Monday in the media to support Israel". Pacifici announces that on January 10th there will be a "mega-event" with 1,500 personalities chosen together with the Israeli ambassador in order to "explain Israel's reasons and its right to make this war".

Pacifici explains that the Roman Jewish community did not spend "even one Euro" for the medicine, which was donated by "an international Jewish organization" and guarantees that "in any case not one piece of medicine will get to Gaza unless it has been authorized by the Government of Israel".

http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/01/05/a-must-read-jewish-propagandist-inadvertently-exposes-his-plot/




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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 09:59 PM
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5. According to a report on either Oberlman or Maddow, Bush pushed
for Israel not to renew cease fire, which is one reason for the few rockets fired into Israel. Israel has launched this initiative with the Bush cadre blessing because he and they want to destroy Hamas. He is too stupid to ever learn anything; he should realize that it doesn't work that way after all his terrorist activities and all the subsequent anti-American radical islamic recruitment. And of course the radicals in Israel want to reassert themselves and retake the government (The Israeli equivalent of GOPers I suppose.) This is murder pure and simple. A fitting ending to the Bush legacy, which he is watching of course from his palatial (huh?) residence and perpetual vacation spot in the soon to be forgotten Texas pig country...the ranch without a horse...Crawford.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 05:46 AM
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6. Unquestionably. Fewer people than ever will swallow Bushie Lies. And the current rulers of Israel
Edited on Tue Jan-06-09 05:47 AM by tom_paine
are Bushies, of that there can be no doubt. A grotesque and incestusous Likudnik/Bushie relationship that buys Bushie Political Capital with buckets of innocent blood.

Like the conveniently timed (for the 2006 Bushie Summer Propaganda "Ratchet Up the Fear" Offensive) August 2006 Air Assault on S. Lebanon.

For myself, probably hundreds of thousands of Jews like me, and millions of Americans, the shameless template of Bushie Lies and Serial Treasons have indeed spoiled it for the Israelis, and I say this as a Jew full of shame for my people.

Currently, at least, Israeli Lies ARE Bushie Lies, including the shameless feloniousness of them.

It saddens me incredibly to say this, but I can no longer ignore the evidence of my own eyes.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 12:20 AM
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7. Count me as one of those hundreds of thousands of Jews.
You definitely speak for me.

Re For myself, probably hundreds of thousands of Jews like me, and millions of Americans, the shameless template of Bushie Lies and Serial Treasons have indeed spoiled it for the Israelis, and I say this as a Jew full of shame for my people.

Currently, at least, Israeli Lies ARE Bushie Lies, including the shameless feloniousness of them.

It saddens me incredibly to say this, but I can no longer ignore the evidence of my own eyes.


It's hard to know which is worse...the grief or the shame. And even harder to separate them.

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