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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:19 PM
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High Gas Prices Save Lives

One happy upside to the $4 gallon of gas: traffic deaths have plummeted. The National Safety Council finds that in some states, deaths from traffic accidents have declined by as much as 20 percent this year compared with the same period last year. Indiana, which has seen a 26 percent decline, may hit the lowest number of traffic deaths in 18 years. The country hasn't seen such a precipitous fall in traffic deaths since the Arab oil embargo in 1973. The AP reports on speculation that people are simply driving less, thus fewer accidents, but also that high gas prices and a sour economy might be keeping drunks at home rather out on the roads.

One possible contributor they don't mention is Americans' mass abandonment of the SUV, which has been responsible for a disproportionate number of highway deaths both from rollovers and also from squashing other smaller cars that might survive an accident with a sedan. Now, if Congress would follow Sen. John Warner's advice and lower the speed limit, the nation might see a massive reduction in highway carnage that would even make Ralph Nader proud!

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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:25 PM
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1. This ignores those on food stamps who will starve as food
prices climb. My son is on food stamps. You try eating healthy on $130 a month when you are 6ft 11 inches. Couldn't do it before; will be getting worse and worse.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:54 PM
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4. It's Desperation
To think about people facing starvation because of rising prices is too painful.

A lot of middle class Americans are hurting, but for many, it is more a matter of less comfort and fewer luxuries rather than any real hardship. So, they are trying to point out the silver lining to the dark cloud to help these middle class people get through it.

Last week I was filling up at my local Costco and there was a line for gas two - three cars deep. People had their engines running while waiting. Of course, it was 90 degrees and humid with no breeze. But I wonder how many of these same people bitched about $4 gal gas. I shut my car off while waiting and while I don't like paying $4 a gallon for gas and much more for groceries, I am fortunate that I don't have to choose one or the other. I think most people are in the same situation. And they are looking for a silver lining.

I really don't see how one could get good, healthy food for $130 a month. Rice, beans, pasta, etc. sure - but fresh meats and produce - no way.

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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:34 PM
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2. $5 Heating Oil (Or Rather The Inability to Afford It) Will Kill People This Winter
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 09:52 PM
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3. leave the speed limit alone...
it was stupid at 55mph; didn't save gas since cars are geared for maximum efficiency at 62mph anyway.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:37 PM
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6. 55 saves lives AND gas
And I'll just bet you drive 62 mph? :rofl:
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AdHocSolver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:03 AM
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7. Driving 55 MPH (rather than 70 MPH) DOES SAVE gas.
Most automatic transmissions shift into their highest gear (and lock the torque converter) above about 40 to 45 MPH. At that point is when you get the best gas mileage.

The 62 MPH figure would be the point where the car is running at an RPM that produces maximum horsepower (perhaps), not best gas mileage.

If your car is equipped with a tachometer, glance at the RPM's occasionally at various speeds. The higher the RPM, the faster your engine is using gas.

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azul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:08 PM
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5. Mmm... Gas up 25% yields driving deaths down 20%, and the economy down
what, 10%, or not much by the DJ industrials.

So human deaths are a collateral damage function of economic activity. And if we really valued human life in this culture, we would learn to slow it down to reduce preventable deaths.

Naw, we're a nation of risk takers (just look at the chemical minefield in which we frolic and gasp for breath), except when it comes to terrorist threats, then we will hand over all our monies and give up freedoms just to be really safe and sane.
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Daveparts Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 02:27 PM
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8. No ones happier
than your car insurance company. Lower deaths, fewer accidents means lower claims lower payouts and lower premiums not!
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