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Daveparts Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 10:07 AM
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I Know! Let’s Rape Grandma!
I Know! Let’s Rape Grandma!
By David Glenn Cox


With the current subprime crisis, most lenders don’t sleep well at night. For years they lived an idyllic life style, lending out a dollar and getting back a buck and a quarter. Come in late and leave early; only a pimp had it better. But bankers never had to contend with the cops or wayward hookers. Like a drug dealer they just stood on the corner and waited for the suckers to come to them.


Not that bankers don’t do good things for a community, they can. Marijuana growers in Northern California donate to the United Way and support the Little League; no one is all good or all bad. But the predatory aspects of American capitalism tend to bring out the worst, rather than the best. During the good times, bankers extended credit at higher interest rates to those who probably couldn’t afford it. Home equity lines could turn the roof over your head into a new car, or bass boat, and the banker profited on both transactions.


I hear ya out there, libertarians mainly, "They made a choice, don’t blame the banker." Tony Soprano used to say the same things: don’t gamble, don’t borrow money from us. People make bad choices all the time; no one is immune. If you don’t believe me, check out the docket in divorce court. But when we ask the government to tightly regulate the lending industry we’re called communists and anti-capitalists, and told that the government should leave free enterprise alone. Ok, I’ll accept that, it's no business of the government to protect people from themselves.


By that reasoning, marijuana prohibition laws are void, as are all drinking laws; after all, I’ve known people very mature at 17 and people immature at 35. You said it! "The government has got to stop trying to protect people from themselves."

These same people want tax credits because they want to send their kids to private school but it doesn’t bother them one iota that we send Columbia 5 billion US tax dollars to fight drug trafficking. Most are deficient in their knowledge of Columbia; President Uribe is the son of a politician who went to prison for drug trafficking. Uribe was himself removed as the administrator of Columbia’s air ministry for supplying pilot’s licenses to Medellin drug cartel pilots. He then became the mayor of Medellin where he was a close personal associate of Medellin’s first citizen, Pablo Escobar. So close, in fact, that he was forced to step down as mayor after Escobar’s demise. This is the man that we trust with 5 billion US tax dollars to fight drug trafficking? But, sshhh, the government are people, too, and sometimes they make bad choices as well.


But, you know, it’s the funniest damn thing, the local drug dealer buys from the bigger guy who himself buys from the bigger guy still and somehow all that money makes it back to Columbia. Bankers wouldn’t get involved in that, would they? Millions of dollars in cash? No, they wouldn’t. Besides, if American bankers did that, someone would be arrested. But it’s funny still, all that money and all those transactions and yet they never seem to be able to catch anyone besides the low-level dealers. Our prisons are full of them, tens of thousands and no one talks, nobody knows nothing.


But times are hard today in the banking industry; they are at a loss as to what to do. The Federal Reserve has cut interest rates three times and they’re betting 90 to 10 that the fed will cut again. But why? That’s helping people who have made bad choices. People who have taken the last three rate cuts and, rather than pass their good fortune along, have instead raised mortgage interest rates and put the difference in their back pocket. Proof positive, the government shouldn’t help people who make bad choices.


The banks are struggling for new areas of revenue; mortgage loans are toast, equity lines of credit are gone as home values decline. Car financiers have come up with a great new plan, Nine Year New Car Financing! Talk about your bad choices, a car loan that you might not live long enough to pay off. If you have to finance a car for nine years maybe you need to lower your sights some. Yes, they’ve had to come up with new and imaginative ways to draw in depositors. The pre-paid debit card! You give them your money and, for just a small fee, you can use it on anything you want!


Wal-Mart advertises their card for only $8.95 with no credit check! Wow, no credit check! You’ll take my cash without checking my credit! Cool! Just the tip of the iceberg as the banker’s wring out the sponge of American prosperity. Pay day loans, car title loans, which I've always affectionately referred to as the First Bank of Crack Head. But, all attempts at humor aside, these are industries whose profitability depends on fleecing those the most in need. These aren’t bankers redeveloping blighted urban areas or lending money to build schools or hospitals, these are pimps.


But, you can’t get rich on nickel and dime car loans made to people during tough times. There has got to be someone somewhere, someone with money socked away. Enter the reverse mortgage. Yes ma’am, we will lend you money against the value of your home, and because we’re such damn nice guys, you don’t have to pay us back, not one thin dime! We like you! You remind me of my own grandmother. That? Oh, that’s just the interest rate, don’t worry about that because you don’t have to pay us back!


As Grandma says, "Now I can pay for my Healthcare! (God Bless America) And take that trip to see my children who think I’m leaving them this house!" The reverse mortgage gives grandma half the value on the property, depending on the program, along with the ticking time bomb of credit card interest rates of 14, 15, 16%, compounded per month. But, no worries, you don’t have to pay it. But someone does.


Lawmakers in Australia have already begun to reign in the reverse mortgage for what it is. Just another way to scam the elderly. To take from them what has taken them a lifetime to earn with a promise of easy money. People on a fixed income, in declining health and fearful about tomorrow. Some of them alone for the first time in decades, solicited by mail , TV and Radio. With wealthy elderly celebrities telling them what a great idea this is.


It makes me wonder, it makes me question capitalism. A society where, in our future, we will all end up as road kill for the buzzards to pick at the bones of our lives. To work and struggle to build a home and raise a family, to obey the laws and follow the rules and to be treated by that society as just so much carrion for our trouble. It makes me question what sort of parents have raised their children to behave so?

How many nights did they lean over the kitchen table, writing checks to the State University instead of putting it away for their own retirement? How proud were they on graduation day? The picture that still sits on the coffee table, of them smiling with the robed and tasseled, excited, young graduate. Who then moved up the ladder of success and into the boardroom and when the CEO asked for ideas to grow the bank’s revenue, raised their hand and said, "I know, let’s rape grandma!"

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 10:09 AM
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1. Is there a link? nt
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Daveparts Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 10:25 AM
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3. Play the Reverse Mortgage Game
http://www.revmort.com/nrmla/index.asp


Use the link and go to the loan calculator. Put in the name Ima L. Durly
and your address and a bogus phone number. Then calculate what your home is worth but to win the game you must find the words "Interest rates" or "Fees" and note that a 2% mortgage loan premium must be paid in addition to the interest rates. But you don't have to pay it back so it doesn't matter, No more Tender Vittles for you!
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Lance31 Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 07:11 PM
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14. true
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:54 PM
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16. Actually, that person was asking you for a link to the original article
But, if I read it right, you are the orignal writer, yes? If so, kuddos. If not, you need to cut the article down to 4 pertinent paragraphs and provide a link to the original. I'm thinking though, that you are the original writer and that is some damn fine stuff. Either way, you are a fine addition to DU, thanks for coming to our party and try to stay out of GDP, because those people will get better after the primaries, I promise.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 10:18 AM
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2. The Lawyer Working on Converting Our Co-op To Condos Is Gung-Ho on Reverse Mortgages
I think it is a scam of the first level, too. I don't want a mortgage, period. I had a mortgage, several in fact. I am enjoying the lack. It's a funny economy where the gas station, grcery store, and State Farm are trying to get me to sign up for credit cards, when all I want is gas, food, and insurance.

I DON'T WANT DEBT!


Thank you. I feel much better now.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:24 AM
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10. Well said. nt
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 10:32 AM
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4. Excellent post! Bravo! k&r (nt)
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 10:54 AM
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5. Health insurance capitalizm ...the bastards profit from death
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sepulveda Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:04 AM
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6. absurd
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 11:05 AM by sepulveda
questioning capitalism because it can be abused is of course absurd.

the mortgage practice, and other aspects of the banking industry help people build wealth (historically, home ownership is phenomenal longterm investment, and more american families have built wealth withhomes than any other single investment).

the fact that there are (and ALWAYS WILL BE) abuses within the system is not the reason to throw out the sytem

what system works BETTER than capitalism (i've never seen one)?

how else are people going to buy houses w/o mortgages?

the fact is there were some abuses. the other fact is that many people did overextend, overleverage, engage in speculation (vs. investment), buy WAY more house than their income says they can afford, etc.

was there a lack of regulation? yes. are there problems with, for example, extending "no doc" loans? of course.

i am sorry, but the blame lies in BOTH camps.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:20 AM
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8. Yes, and......?
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sepulveda Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:21 AM
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9. and
i like redhook ESB.

what's yer point?
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:49 PM
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15. How does this article in any way absolve the other side?
It points out the side that is rarely noted in the mainstream.
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Daveparts Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:36 AM
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11. Apologist Accepted
It is relatively easy to be an apologist; you can make excuses for anything. Your argument is that capitalism shouldn’t be criticized, that any system can be abused. That’s like saying the Titanic disaster shouldn't be criticized because most of the people made it off safely. But like the Titantic your argument doesn’t hold water. I clearly stated,

“But when we ask the government to tightly regulate the lending industry we’re called communists and anti-capitalists, and told that the government should leave free enterprise alone. Ok, I’ll accept that, it's no business of the government to protect people from themselves.”

You said, “what system works BETTER than capitalism (i've never seen one)?”
The old better dead then red line, I never said Capitalism should be done away with only regulated. The difference between the family dog verses a vicious pit bull. But you take the Bush line that the abuses are all innocent and that the abused probably had it coming to them anyway.

We are talking about reverse mortgages here, a system where the owner of a fee simple property signs over partial rights to the title. They are given a fraction of the value of the property and then assessed fees and charged credit card interest rates until the property is no longer theirs.

We are not talking about sub prime loans, no one except the lenders will ever move into a new home because of reverse mortgages.

“i am sorry, but the blame lies in BOTH camps.” You hold private citizens to the same standard as professional bankers? Private individuals devised a scheme to cheat professional bankers? If that’s so then bank robbers should be referred to as armed withdrawal counselors.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 11:08 AM
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7. Calling Symbolman! We need new lyrics to "Grandma got run over by a reindeer"...
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 11:08 AM by calipendence
... to go along with the tone of this story. Something like...

"Grandma got screwed by her car financier!"
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 04:05 PM
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12. Wanna hear another economist-approved scam?
Companies selling today's well-off Baby Boomers their Long Term Care insurance.

The premiums are high - but you can sleep at night knowing that when you are in your seventies or eighties, and your family tosses your sack of bones into a rest home - it can be one of the better ones due to your planning ahead.

But how likely is it that the insurance companies will maintain these policies when the Baby Boomers all start to reach nursing home age? Once the margin of profit to debit is prohibitably low, I predict these companies will go out of business.

I forsee a ton of bankruptcies, and to the holders of these bogus gems, a large, decades long collection of calendars and other useless items from their insurance agents.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 05:06 PM
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13. Same thing with seatbelt laws and helmet laws. nt
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 05:15 AM
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17. Those who prey on people who think they need a loan are the vultures of capitalism.
Edited on Sat Mar-01-08 05:20 AM by Seabiscuit
I spent my life pretty much debt free. In fact, I decided against getting a credit card until *after* I owned a home. Within 2 years I paid off the entire mortgage. I pay my credit card bills in full every month so I never pay interest. And I never borrow money to buy a car. If I can't afford to buy it with cash already in the bank I don't buy it. Yeah, I did without a lot of things for a lot of years (edit: decades) but I have never been in debt, except for the two years I carried a mortgage.

I started out dirt poor. Today I'm the multimillionaire you didn't know was your neighbor because I don't live like a multimillionaire (but you never know about my travels to exotic places because I'm out of town then). Our culture creates voracious consumerism and implants the notion in people's minds that not only should they crave all that crap they don't need, but that they can have all kinds of crap now that they can't afford yet. So people are used to living on credit, which keeps them either poor or in a lower middle class rut. After all, the government approves of and practices deficit spending and gets away with it, so why not? Well, for starters, China's not going to loan *you* a trillion dollars to fight your own personal war on reality. Break the bonds of the media brainwashing, and you'll discover you don't need all that crap, and living without debt is not only liberating, but the first step towards financial freedom.
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