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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 07:25 AM
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It's George Bush with brains (Rudy Giuliani)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,2205320,00.html

People of Britain: congratulations are in order. You have now joined ferret owners, sidewalk artists, hot dog vendors, publicly funded attorneys for poor people, low-income community college students, museum curators, a couple of innocent black men shot dead by the police, the sections of the New York City charter governing rules of succession to the mayoralty and, of course, Hillary Clinton, as objects of Rudy Giuliani's demagoguery and wrath.

You may by now have heard the story. In a radio ad that his campaign prepared for New Hampshire voters, Giuliani tells listeners that he was diagnosed with prostate cancer in 2000 and goes on to say: "My chance of surviving cancer - and thank God I was cured of it - in the United States: 82%. My chances of surviving prostate cancer in England: only 44% under socialised medicine." The numbers are false. The actual five-year survival rate in Britain is 74%, which is still lower than America's, but obviously high enough for the figure not to have constituted fodder for a campaign commercial. (Even the remaining, much smaller difference, is largely explained by more widespread screening in the US, which catches many more incidents of prostate cancer that are non-lethal).

I know the form all too well. I covered Giuliani for a dozen years in New York (note to angry American rightwingers preparing to email me a warning to keep my foreign nose out of their business: I'm as American as a Ford F-150). The man lies with staggering impunity. But here's the thing: he does it with such conviction and such seeming authority that people who are not inclined to study the matter will believe him - will in fact be utterly convinced that Giuliani is speaking the gospel truth, and they will prove almost impossible to shake from this conviction.

Giuliani's hypocrisy with regard to this ad doesn't end with the fake statistics. As Joe Conason noted on www.Salon.com, Giuliani was at the time of his treatment the mayor of New York and enrolled in a nonprofit health maintenance organisation for government employees - that is, mini-socialised medicine. And as Ezra Klein noted on Comment is free, the treatment that saved Giuliani was developed in Denmark - which, as Klein drolly notes, "is both in Europe and has a universal healthcare system". But none of this will stop Giuliani. He will say and do anything he feels he needs to say and do to get power.

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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 07:30 AM
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1. As American as a Ford F-150?
I agree with this writer's view of Ghouliani but the analogy may not be a good one...many of vehicles assembled in the U.S. have components made in other countries.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 08:03 AM
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2. Ghouliani may have brains, but he's just as evil as *
Edited on Mon Nov-05-07 08:04 AM by rox63
Maybe even as evil as Cheney. :scared:
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:09 AM
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3. Personally, I think Rudy's "brains" are greatly overestimated...
He's a one-trick pony and a chronic liar.
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