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wcepler Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:38 AM
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Apres Moi, La Deluge

Apres Moi, La Deluge


OK, its time to start very seriously thinking about what we're going to do once we get these Bush/Republican neo-Nazis out of our constitutional government.

Let them drift off into multimillion dollar trust funds?

Let them moon the American Constitution?

Let them spin speeches about misunderstood conservatism?

No, no, no, no, no!

How about legally busting their balls. How about locking the traitors up for 20 years? And so far as the soul selling "media" is concerned (e.g., that troop of traitors at Fox Snooze) how about learning from what Europe did to its collaborators after WW2?

Let's face it, we have been fighting for everything holy, legal, constitutional, and sane FOR THE LAST 6 YEARS, and shame on us if we let these pig souled Republicans slip off into the sunset.

Israel had a very long memory when it came to tracking down its fascists, and so should we.

And just how are we going to do this? It really won't be that hard once we resurrect the rule of law and the American Constitution. That's all we need.

These traitors broke the law and violated the Constitution over and over and over again, and it's time for them to pay the full (repeat FULL) price.

And if we get BOTH Houses of Congress back it will be like shooting fish in a barrel. There's no "issue" here. There's the law and there's breaking the law. End of conversation. And we know what to do with lawbreakers, don't we? We LOCK THEM UP.

And let's push our creativity to the limit when it comes to the "anti Christ" of the 3rd Millennia: George W. Bush.

Whether or not there's a God in Heaven, we CAN'T LET THAT MAN WALK AWAY from the horror he inflicted upon our country and planet.

We owe it to our children, science, the Earth, morality, history, our forefathers, and common decency to make him finally answer to the rule of law. Somehow, some way, our laws and constitution must make him pay for his obscene and heartless crimes.



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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:40 AM
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1. Nice rant, proteus
Welcome to DU. :hi:
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:45 AM
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3. Sacre bleu!
I dont want to seem pedantic, but it's Le Deluge.

I know, but I still had to say it.

dont hit me!
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:48 AM
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4. I may be an idiot
But I'm a non-violent idiot. You're safe to correct me without being brutalized. :)
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:44 AM
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2. So how do we bust these well-insulated assholes?
Am all for it.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:50 AM
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6. How do you think? Surely, it's not a question of "we", but the
appropriate authorities following the law.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 12:49 PM
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9. And how to get "the appropiate authorities" to act,
and just who are these people? Who will act on behalf of all who have been disenfranchised, and have enough power to bring the neocon thugs to their knees?

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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 02:31 PM
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12. Sorry I'm not an expert on the whole panoply of State in the UK,
never mind the US. Why do you need the details?

Both countries have or had in the past systems for detecting and punishing treason, war-profiteering, and criminality of all kinds. Being politicians and commercial big-shots didn't necessarily render the perpetrators immune from prosecution and punishment. Although your country has a far better record of open government than ours in the UK.
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madame defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 11:48 AM
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5. I love it when you speak French, mon chou...
and especially when you speak with such wisdom.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 12:00 PM
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7. Prep Le guillotine mon ami, mon chou
Edited on Sun Oct-08-06 12:03 PM by opihimoimoi
Le Bush: Farme le bouche
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 12:03 PM
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8. We Must Strip Them of Assets, Too!
If they have nothing to bribe anyone with, then they might actually suffer the penalties they have so ably earned for their crimes.

And it would give their victims a chance to recoup something of their losses.

Restitution is in order.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 12:56 PM
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10. It's not that easy. We need to look at the structure of what
we're faced with.

There are levels above the names you know. The ones you know are only mere operatives who are allowed to profit from their efforts for the unnamed above the line. They are allowed to provide their ideas, also. They are selected and sanctioned to progress the objectives of those above them.

Thenames you know didn't think up all this, but they agreed to use their backgrounds in politics and business to do the job. We ca't think that they are ruling the Party.

To make it uncomplex - the heirarachy is something like this -

Foundations and organizations


Businessmen and women who become politicians and judges to further the cause.
Politicians who become businessmen and women to further the cause.


The faces we know are below the line.

The faces we don't (all) know are above the line. Some straddle the line.

It was recognized about 100 years ago that earth resources was where thay are at. For some, earth resources also includes human labor.

Humans are an unruly bunch and must be controlled and contained, kept poor to a level where they won't protest too much and kept controlled to the point where they don't exceed the capacity of guards and holding cubes; kept ignorant so that they don't detect what is going on; kept in fear so they willingly sacrifice their children to protect 'the greater good' or to become the prison guards.

The barons call the shots, namelessly. Some cross over to sit on the boards of the corporations or run them and we get to know them. They give the orders.

The big and some little corporation/ceo-cfo's goals are to operate with minimal costs so the investors prosper - including the steady flow of return for the barons. Above all, they CANNOT be held to heed laws pertaining to environment, pollustion, labor laws, legal fights - rights demanded by mere humans who are not at their level. 'Responsible to no one' is their goal.

Their foundations are many and cross borders. Employees of the foundations are paid to think about how they can reach the baron and corporate version of utopia. They are the ones who come up with the ideas and plans - teams figure out how to accomplish it while creating pretend situations where we are told that we live in a democracy and have certain freedoms; where we continue to lie to children about their rights - such as the right to vote which has always held the assumption that the vote was counted - along with the lies about our constitutional structure and the magnificence of the Supreme Court.

These are the people whose battle planning teams select the players who will help them accomplish it all - especially the biggest game - running the White House and Congress. They are the ones who chose Reagan. They are the ones who put one of their own in - George, SR. They are the ones who let some of them sell them on putting George, Jr. in. They may have also allowed Clinton in.

One thing is certain - they were very busy planning the takeover of Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon, and more during the administration of Pres Clinton. If anyone is successful in jailing Cheney and Rumsfeld and their teams, those above the line will be free and figuring out who is next to place in the roles - if they haven't already done that - they work far in the future and patiently get the politicians and businesspeople/lobbyists and JUDGES to keep up the momentum. The momentum of their goals and objectives never stops - even when Dems are in - it's a farce to think that Dems are saviors.

Sadly, they laugh at our goals and objectives - peace, prosperity, freedom, democracy, brotherhood - a future fo rour children. They don't give a damn about OUR children.

It's going on right now and getting rid of Cheney and Rumsfeld doesn't mean much.

If we really believe this is our country we can do something to make it ethical.

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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 01:31 PM
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11. This is going to require constant pressure on the elected Dems
most of whom, without pressure, will be inclined to "forgive and forget".

But that's what happened after Watergate, after Iran-Contra... and what did we get? A serious attempt at a fascist coup by those who were cut some slack for their previous crimes.

We cannot allow political collegiality to again let these dangerous elements off the hook.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-08-06 07:25 PM
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13. Dems forgave and forgot after Watergate, October Surprise, Iran-Contra...
the Clinton impeachment, the theft of the 2000 election ad nauseum.

In each case, this gesture of goodwill was returned with a knife in the back as soon as the right got back on their feet, and every time they got back up from their self-inflicted wounds they were meaner and more effective.

Punishing these guys is not about getting even, but protecting ourselves and our democracy.

The best way to do this is not just prosecute the Bushies, but the layer of power above them, the financiers and corporations whose water they are carrying. In World War II, even as we were hanging Nazis, we were letting the Germans who nurtured, approved, and backed Hitler financial get off with a slap on the wrist.

If you put a player in the penalty box instead of ejecting them from the game, there's a pretty good chance they are going to knock out someone else's teeth, maybe even the ref's.
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