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Gene C. Gerard Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 01:57 PM
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Late last month a Food and Drug Administration advisory panel unanimously recommended approval of a vaccine for the human papilloma virus (HPV). The vaccine appears to be 100 percent effective at protecting against the most prevalent viruses that cause cervical cancer. While public health professionals view the vaccine as miraculous, many conservative organizations opposed it on the grounds that it might encourage promiscuity among adolescent girls. Now that it appears certain that the FDA will approve the vaccine, conservatives are attempting to discourage its use.

The pharmaceutical giant Merck produced the vaccine known as Gardasil. It will be nothing short of a lifesaver for many women. Cervical cancer is the second most prevalent cancer killer among women in America, striking nearly 14,000 women each year. Of those, nearly 4,000 die annually. Poor women and women of color will benefit the most from the vaccine, as Latino and black women have the highest rates of cervical cancer. Lower-income women typically lack the funds and health insurance necessary to have regular screenings for HPV.

Despite the benefits of the vaccine, conservative organizations began to rally against it last year. One of the most vocal opponents was the Family Research Council. The council promotes the Judeo-Christian worldview as the basis for a just, free, and stable society. Last October the councils president, Tony Perkins, spoke decidedly against the vaccine. Mr. Perkins proclaimed, Our concern is that this vaccine will be marketed to a segment of the population that should be getting a message about abstinence. It sends the wrong message. He even stated that he would not vaccinate his 13-year-old daughter.

Another organization that promotes abstinence is the Physicians Consortium. The head of the consortium, Dr. Hal Wallis, was also critical. In his opinion, If you dont want to suffer these diseases, you need to abstain, and when you find a partner, stick with that partner. The founder of the National Abstinence Clearinghouse also opposed the vaccine. This organization was formed to promote the appreciation for and practice of sexual abstinence (purity) until marriage. Leslee Unruh, the organizations founder, stated firmly, I personally object to vaccinating children against a disease that is 100 percent preventable with proper sexual behavior.

Now that FDA approval is all but certain, conservative organizations are strategizing to blunt acceptance of the vaccine. Much of this effort is directed toward the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP). This committee is a part of the Centers for Disease Control, and is responsible for establishing the classification of vaccines that the government recommends. This recommendation prompts states to require a particular vaccination, typically guarantees that insurance companies will cover it, and determines the level of public funding.

In 2003 President Bush appointed a medical doctor, Reginald Finger, to the ACIP. Until last fall, Dr. Finger was also the medical affairs analyst for Focus on the Family, the nations largest and most powerful evangelical Christian organization. In an effort to gain the support of this group, Merck has been forced to aggressively lobby Focus. Merck has admitted to holding numerous meetings with Dr. Finger at Focus headquarters. Its troubling that a vaccine manufacturer has to be concerned with securing the backing of a conservative Christian organization. And Merck will likely have an uphill battle.

Although children are required to have various vaccinations before attending public schools, conservatives are against the ACIP recommending this for the HPV vaccine. The Christian Medical & Dental Associations is an organization that exists to glorify God by advancing Biblical principles in bioethics and health to the Church and society. The groups executive director, Dr. Gene Rudd, has stated, While accepting HPV vaccine is morally acceptable, it should not be mandatory.

And the Family Research Council has gone even farther. While testifying before an ACIP conference the councils spokesman informed the ACIP that, Because parents have an inherent right to be the primary educator and decision maker regarding their childrens health, we would oppose any measures to legally require vaccination. There is no justification for any vaccination mandate as a condition of public school attendance. And Focus on the Family issued a formal statement declaring that it supports widespread (universal) availability of HPV vaccines but opposes mandatory HPV vaccinations for entry to public school.

But in most instances, parents cant pick and choose what vaccinations they want their children to receive in order to attend public schools. Children are required to be vaccinated against measles, mumps, chicken pox and various other diseases. Public health experts recommend that the HPV vaccine be administered to children between the ages of 11 and 12, before sexual activity commences. And theres no scientifically defensible reason that it shouldnt be universally administered.

Of course, theres the rub. The only objection to the HPV vaccine is based on religious principle. But religious values and beliefs shouldnt effect FDA approval or recommendation by the ACIP. From a public health perspective, we cant continue to allow conservatives to depict science as a cultural bogeyman.


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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 02:00 PM
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1. So all conservative females are free to decline the vaccine. Then we'll
see how much purer they are than others.
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 05:47 PM
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13. Exactly! [more]
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 06:16 PM
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15. But if their men are impure, they'll catch HPV from their men.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 02:12 AM
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30. That is one of the flaws in this approach.
Edited on Sat Jun-03-06 02:14 AM by FVZA_Colonel
Suppose that Daughter was as Upright and Pure as any mother and father could want. Suppose she never once had sex until her wedding night. Now how can they be absolutely certain that the man she chooses to marry would have lived the same sort of life, and if he had not, that he would tell the truth?
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 02:01 PM
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2. Excellent writeup ...
I cannot believe they would rather see a woman suffer and die than to risk her from being "unpure"

And :party: WELCOME TO DU!! :party:
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 02:05 PM
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3. This is so utterly despicable. The lunacy of these idiots is an outrage.
I don't have words. :grr:


BTW Welcome to DU. Thanks for posting this. :hi:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 02:14 PM
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4. Yet another consequence of legitimizing the far right
and the fundamentalists who support them.
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 02:15 PM
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5. They call it "The Culture of Life." n/t
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Salviati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 02:16 PM
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6. "Republicans want your daughter to get cancer"
That's the phrase we should keep repeating...
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Cosby Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 02:50 PM
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7. Check out perkins wording...
Mr. Perkins proclaimed, Our concern is that this vaccine will be marketed to a segment of the population that should be getting a message about abstinence. It sends the wrong message.

Am I the only one that reads this to say 'those people, you know, the dark ones, the poor ones'.

We all know about these sick bastards' 'purity'. E.g., from today's homepage:

'Republican Jim Galley, who is running for Congress as a "pro-traditional family" candidate, was married to two women at the same time, defaulted on his child support payments and has been accused of abuse by one of his ex-wives.'

I rest my case...
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CPMaz Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 04:25 PM
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9. How about "Theocons advocate the mass murder
of poor and minority women"?

"4000 die" annually? I'd say that reaches the threshhold of mass murder.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 03:31 PM
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8. And this is the "pro-life" agenda?
Crazy fuckers.

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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 05:36 PM
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10. "Dr. Finger"
That name just gives me the creeps for some reason.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 05:37 PM
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11. If HPV Were Treated Like Polio....
Edited on Fri Jun-02-06 05:37 PM by Demeter
We could wipe out the disease world-wide in a generation. Think about it.

Paging Bill and Melinda Gates....
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 05:39 PM
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12. Iraq is burning, bush is in full blown criminal rule&these idiots
carry on about abstinence and purity!
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schrodingers_cat Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 05:55 PM
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14. Hmmmm.......it was my understanding that the the mere possession
of genitalia was a chief component to the presence of promiscuity in human and animal species.
:shrug:

(pardon me, while I leave my computer to &*#$%* anything with facial hair and a pulse)
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 06:33 PM
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16. great post. they are simply insane. Nothing less.
they are so concerned about what other people do with their own dicks and vaginas, that they miss the truly important issues.

how many of them are concerned that women and children were killed in cold blood in Iraq?
how many of them care about the AIDS deaths in Africa?
how many of them care that no less than 20% of people on death row are innocent of the crimes of which they were tried and convicted?

they are a cancer on society, and they deserve everything that will be coming to them.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 06:53 PM
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17. Go ahead fundies and outlaw these drugs.
That's just another racket for the mafia to get into.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 07:10 PM
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18. Does ANYONE need ANY more proof that rightwingers are a bunch
of misogynnistic, hateful, heartless bastards?

That's right, ladies: They want you to DIE, horribly and painfully, if you don't live your life the way THEY want you to.

Redstone
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 08:38 PM
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22. It really is true
They want to play God so they can control people by controlling their fear.

The lowest form of life thriving on other people's misery.

I won't even associate with RWers any more...
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 12:03 AM
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28. Christ, why would you want to associate with them?
The lowest form of life on the planet would not wish death on a subset of its own group, just because that subset did not want to conform to the commandments of that life-form's "leaders."

Redstone
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 07:18 PM
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19. couldn't HPV mutate?
I don't know much about virology, but if a large segment of the population refuses to be vaccinated against something, doesn't that just create a huge petri dish for the HPV to mutate to a form that the vaccine doesn't prevent, thus enabling HPV to infect the vaccinated population?
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 08:17 PM
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20. i first heard about this b.s. reading it out of none other than
my glamour magazine. I was infuriated that anyone would choose not to stop a virus and one that can cause death by cancer. It makes me sick. Its the same thing they are doing with Plan B... dragging their feet because it means that a girl may become promiscuous. B.S., B.S., and more B.S. It is stupid. I am so glad the add campaign on t.v. is nailing the mark... women tell your female friends and get this shot.
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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 08:36 PM
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21. amazing post
Welcome to DU! This is the most rediculous bunch of crap ever. Culture of life my fucking ass...
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987654321 Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 08:49 PM
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23. Hey, you right wing so-called Christian groups!
How about supporting universal health care because it goes along with Judeo-Christian values, such as helping the poor, helping the sick and giving to the needy. Yeah, those are things Jesus spoke about more than anything else, including homosexuality. Oh wait, I forgot, you guys don't want to give away your heard earned dollars because you think the idea is too in line with socialism, and after all, socialism is a Godless idea.

These sick idiots piss me off to no end. Basically they are telling people to follow their rules or else they will die. I can't believe the amount of money these guys spend on shit like this when so many people are in need across the world.

Fascism in the name of Jesus Christ!
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silvertip Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 10:55 AM
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33. Universal health care!
    I don't claim to be an expert on economics or anything of
that sort but I can see where something of that nature is the
only way to go, possibly based on the now existing programs in
use in Canada and Great Britain. Of course first you would
have to get rid of all of the blood sucking ins. co's, and
maintain some type of control over the outrageous pricing by
the drug people. Good Luck on that one.                       
                                                  Also it is
my opinion that religion has no place in this issue, nor does
religion have a place in our govt.
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987654321 Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 01:21 PM
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35. I agree on your point about religion.
I was just pointing out the hypocrisy in what they say and do.

As far as universal health care goes, one would only have to look at the countries that now have it, or some form of it, to understand that it does work, it is more cost effective than our present system, and as a whole, those nations are much healthier than ours. Of industrialized nations, we actually have one of the worst health records. But, of course, most industrialized nations have some form of universal health system. That would account for the fact that our infant mortality rate is dramatically higher here with millions of people not having access to pre-natal health care.
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Merrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 09:14 PM
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24. Culture of Suffering
They're trapped in their own self-imposed prison of torment, and misery loves company
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 03:42 AM
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31. Male fundies and freepers
like taking it in the poop chute. They hate because they can't be who they want to be. Repression begets repression
Our pResident is a nut.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 10:17 PM
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25. Religious Conservatives wish women would die
Pure and simple
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 10:53 PM
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26. Just further proof...
that the religious right only cares about human lives up until the point they exit the womb.

If only HPV could be contracted in utero, maybe this cure would be acceptable. :eyes:

Hey fundies! How about saving their lives and THEN worrying about whether they're having "acceptable" sex.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 11:02 PM
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27. CAUSES HEAD AND NECK CANCERS YOU DUMBYERS
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gtar100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 02:08 AM
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29. They don't wish women to die
They aren't thinking like that. They are blinded by their fear of the vagina.
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silvertip Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 10:29 AM
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32. Cancer Vaccine
    That anyone would even think of holding back this drug if
it works as stated should be a crime right up alongside
murder.I also believe that teenage virgins are rapidly
becoming extinct in this country which is neither here nor
there, but I also think that not teaching our kids about
condoms and human sexuality should be right up there with the
rest of the felonies. Also ( I can hear the bible thumpers
screaming already) IMHO religion has no place in this issue
and it has no place in our govt.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 11:48 AM
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34. This is CRAP!!!
One cannot predict a teenage girl's sexual activity at 11 or 12. What if, Ghod forbid, she saves herself until marraige, but her choice of husband didn't? He gives her HPV and she gets cancer. I don't have kids, but I'd want any daughter of mine to have it, even though I'd counsel her not to be sexually active until she gets much older.

Besides, how many of those good Christian girls are off having sex behind their parents' backs? Probably a lot of them.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 05:34 PM
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36. Sadly, it isn't just Freeps who use this kind of logic.
Edited on Sat Jun-03-06 05:35 PM by Odin2005
I see this logic all the time among my collegemates. A fellow enviromentalist friend used the same "it sends a bad message" logic to argue that building nuclear power plants sends the message that we don't have to cut our consuption. :crazy:
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 08:05 PM
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37. Hep B is already required vaccine-and it is STD. Cows out of the barn.
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:37 AM
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38. What astute psychologists
Edited on Sun Jun-04-06 01:38 AM by lolly
These people understand teenagers so well!

I know when I was a teenager, the only thing keeping me from giving in to my evil desires was a fear of contracting pamphiloma virus. If not for that, I would've just given my boyfriends condoms and gone for it!!

:eyes:

If you look at their literature a little further, you'll see that the crux of their "abstinence only" campaign is that condoms--according to them--offer no protection from HPV. I've heard conflicting views--some have said that condoms offer some, but not complete protection--but the point is that they have a scary, icky thing they can beat kids over the head with.

Now what are they going to tell the kiddies? "Don't have sex, because I wouldn't get the vaccination that would protect you from HPV?" Maybe this will be a great topic of conversation at the "Purity Ball" or Viginity Ball or whatever.
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