The 'Retreat and Defeat' Dems

[hadrons]

By Stephen Pizzo, News for Real. Posted December 14, 2005.

Maybe we need a new party, since the party that claims to support us has given up any pretense at actual opposition to Bush's war or anything else.

For once the Republican attack machine has described the Democratic Party perfectly: retreat and defeat. It's what Democrats are all about now. I'm not talking about the Democrats' position (if they had one) on Bush's fool's errand of a war in Iraq. I'm talking about how Democrats have flatly refused to stand and fight the war here at home, the war for America's own democracy.

Democrats remind me of the that group of kids in every grammar school whose members were not smart enough to be dorks nor tough enough to be knuckle-dragging jocks. They are stuck in a social vacuum of sorts. Every now and then one of them gets some backbone and declares he's "gonna show those jocks." To which his frustrated friends eagerly egg him on. So he tosses an insult or rock at the school thugs, who of course immediately counter attack. His friends desert him leaving him screaming, "it was an accident, honest. I didn't mean it." After which the thugs would beat the crap out of him anyway…

John Murtha, one of the few truly tough guys in the party, stood up and said right out loud -- "get out of Iraq, now." I'm sure Murtha didn't wake up that morning and decide to hold a news conference. He almost certainly ran his idea by fellow party members. And, from what I hear, they replied, "Sure John, go ahead. We're right behind you."

When Murtha stepped forward, alone, and fired off that rock, Republicans did what Republicans do best, they attacked. Poor John turned to rally his troops, but they were long gone. Many were clustered for cover around CNN microphones, declaring as loudly as they could, "Murtha? He's not with me," and "Hardly know the guy," and "Sure, John's a brave American. No one questions that. But he doesn't speak for me or most other Democrats on this one."…

This is why Dems never win anymore. And why Americans lose and lose and lose again. We lose jobs, we lose medical care, we lose sons and daughters. Because the when the other side starts shooting Democrats hoist the white flag of surrender and political cowardice…

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http://www.alternet.org/story/29552

[texastoast]

1. You are right

Most of them are not willing to keep fighting the good fight, no matter the numbers.

They need to rally around "the right thing to do," and political consequences be damned. Maybe then they could demonstrate what integrity looks like, because, especially in the Murtha instance, they surely have not.

[DemInDistress]

2. Dems didn't win because of Deibold in 2000`2002' and

2004. Did you read the latest from Blackbox Voting? The 2004--stolen election and the recent entry of Leon
County Florida,seems Deibold hackers stole the vote in 2000. That count alone would have put Gore in the
Whitehouse. Its not retreat and defeat Dems. Its Diabolical Deibold. I hear they're going out of business or
Wallyboy O'dell has resigned and the company (Deibold)is being sued...

[blm]

3. The problem with left media is that they get their facts wrong, too.

That's not helpful.

Murtha's plan is PROVISIONALLY a 6month redeployment plan. The media conveniently ignores Murtha's provisional language, and mischaracterizes his plan so they can help BushInc attack the Dems as cut and run.

Dean had recently gotten behind Lawrence Korb's 2yr withdrawal plan, which the media ignored and failed to cite when attacking his statements as cut and run.

John Kerry submitted a 12-13 month withdrawal plan in October and again in the senate on Nov.10. which the media ignored altogether.

[Democrats_win]

4. Yes! The way I understand Murtha's plan is to pull back a little and jump

in when we need to. It will save bu$h's failed plan and prevent a Vietnam problem in which the country is so fatigued by the failed war that we won't be able to do anything at a critical moment.

[theoldman]

5. Bush will use Martha's plan.

It may not be exactly like Murtha laid it out but it will be very similar because it is a good idea. When I was in the Army we called it a "Strategic Withdrawal".