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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 08:40 PM
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'CIA leak scandal: Rove defied Bush's command?'-um...


http://www.thenation.com/blogs/capitalgames?bid=3&pid=28485

'CIA leak scandal: Rove defied Bush's command?'

> Posted on Thursday, October 13 @ 09:56:45 EDT

> David Corn, The Nation
>

>
> ......Yesterday we were told that Karl Rove had no role in it. Have you talked to Karl and do you have confidence in him?
>
> Bush answered:
>
> Listen, I know of nobody--I don't know of anybody in my administration who leaked classified information. If somebody did leak classified information, I'd like to know, and we'll take the appropriate action. And this investigation is a good thing....And if people have got solid information, please come forward with it....And we can clarify this thing very quickly if people who have got solid evidence would come forward and speak out. And I would hope they would....I want to know who the leakers are.
>
> By Rove's own admission--or that of his attorney--Rove did pass classified information (Valerie Wilson's employment status at the CIA was classified) to at least two reporters (Cooper and Novak). By Bush's statement, Rove deserves "appropriate action." Yet so far no "appropriate action" has apparently been taken. Why might that be?

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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 08:41 PM
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1. Stupid Question....
Why do you even bother asking that? Why hasn't action been taken? Why do you think?
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 08:51 PM
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2. Here's the para that says it all:
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 08:51 PM by Jackpine Radical
a White House aide who had just left his job at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue told me that the consensus view within the Bush gang at that point was that Rove was too smart for special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald and that there was no reason for Rove to explain--or admit--anything.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 09:24 PM
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3. Bingo! That fits perfectly. The only answer I can ever come up with
when I try to figure out where they get the balls to do what they do is - audacity and arrogance. They've been riding so high in some kind of delusion that they must have believed that they would never be taken down. After all, if you can pull off a 9-11 and a phoney war and kill thousands of people and you still have high ratings, you can do anything. RIght?

They probably think that Rove can still run things from jail.


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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:06 PM
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4. To quote Judge Judy: "Karl, on your best day you are not as smart as
I am on my worst day."

Or perhaps Fitz said "I eat morons like you for breakfast."
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 07:54 AM
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5. They thought that they are too smart to be caught because that has always
been the case. They are con artists who felt above the law, and were able to make the law to suit them. They have always been able to kiss or kick their way thru anything.

I have not yet counted Rove out. But if he looks like a major repug liability they will throw him from the train.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:32 AM
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6. The problem is that they can't throw him from the train
Without the train running off the tracks.

Look, Rove is everything to this president. He runs the president.

Bush is incapable of the complex, evil thought necessary to continue their destruction, and he knows it. Bush is a mental light weight, and he is suspicious of everyone except Karl and Rice. So if Karl goes, the whole house of cards begins to collapse.

That is why they are doing their best to hold on to Karl for as long as possible. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Bush pardoned the guy. Bush doesn't care about his image, he cares about his cronies and his corporate friends who depend on him (and Karl) to make gobs of money at our expense. Hell, Bush doesn't even give a damn about the GOP. Once he's gone, he'll flip them the finger and go live on a ranch somewhere picking his nose all day.

Karl is a vital part of this machine that is designed to give money to the ultra wealthy and screw the rest of us.

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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 08:36 AM
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7. Yes I hear you. But Rove is a bit of jam. Then again they have
Edited on Fri Oct-14-05 08:36 AM by cassiepriam
gotten out of worse ones. But the money machine may have to throw both Rove and Bush from the train and start from scratch.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 09:03 AM
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8. Actions speaker louder than words!!!
Words don't mean anything its the INACTION of Bush that means something here!!!
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-14-05 07:19 PM
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9. They have become very bad for business
excerpt: 2004

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/060804_coup_detat.html

-Former officials of the Executive Branch are, however, free to testify if they are no longer holding a government office when subpoenaed or when the charges are brought.



The Bush administration has proved itself to be an insular group of inept, dishonest and dangerous CEO's of the corporation known as America. They have become very bad for business and the Board of Directors is now taking action. Make no mistake, the CIA works for "The Board" - Wall Street and big money. The long-term (very corrupt and unethical) agenda of the Board, in the face of multiple worsening global crises, was intended to proceed far beyond the initially destructive war in Iraq, toward an effective reconstruction and a strategic response to Peak Oil. But the neocons have stalled at the ugly stage: killing hundreds of thousands of people; destroying Iraq's industrial and cultural infrastructure as their own bombs and other people's RPGs blow everything up; getting caught running torture camps; and making the whole world intensely dislike America.

These jerks are doing real damage to their masters' interests.

But (not surprisingly) Tenet and the CIA were and remain much better at covert operations and planning ahead than the Bush administration ever was. Tenet and Pavitt actually prepared and left a clear, irrefutable and incriminating paper trail which not only proves that they had shunned and refused to endorse the documents, the CIA also did not support the nuke charges and warned Bush not to use them.

Where are those documents now? They're part of the Justice Department Plame investigation - and they're also in the hands of the Congressman who will most likely introduce and manage the articles of impeachment, if that becomes necessary: Henry Waxman (D), of California. If you would like to see how tightly the legal trap has been prepared, and how carefully the evidence has been laid out, I suggest taking a look around Waxman's web site at: http://www.house.gov/waxman/.



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