Dems should repudiate clowns in our midst & spotlight Sauds

[ctaylor]

"The message is clear: The Democratic Party puts politics ahead of unity, victory, and the safety of our troops. And that makes a Democrat like me furious with my own party's childish, selfish, dangerous behavior. It's time for Democrats who are sick of such shenanigans to speak up and repudiate these clowns."...

I agree. Also, OSC has a good point about the administration being too soft on the Saudis. We need credibility on nat'l security. The Saudi threat needs to be addressed. It seems like a prefect match to me. Making public their anti-American activities as OSC suggests seems like a great 1st step.

read the whole thing

http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2005-01-30-1.html

By Orson Scott Card January 30, 2005

Rice, Iraq, and Saudi Subversion

additional excerpts:

..."So we are walking a tightrope in our relationship with Saudi Arabia. We have no choice but to live with the present Saudi government for the sake of oil supply and prices -- and noninterference with American military activity in Iraq.

Yet Saudi Arabia is actively supporting murder, espionage, and sabotage in America.

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In other words, what I'm advocating is openness. Let us require that the people distributing Wahhabist doctrines be listed as agents of the Saudi government -- it's the truth, and if they aren't ashamed of what they're doing, there should be no problem. We don't have a national policy of murdering people because of religious disagreements.

And the publications themselves should be intelligible to non-readers of Arabic. Let them have full freedom of speech -- as long as the rest of us are free to see what they're saying.

The only penalty, then, would be for concealing their activities or illegally hiding their words behind the Arabic alphabet and language.

If the Saudi government can't tolerate daylight on their activities in America, that's a confession that they are intent on secretly subverting America while pretending to be our ally.

Meanwhile, Americans should be slow to judge their Muslim neighbors -- for them, the threat of murder is very real, and open opposition to these publications and ideas would surely set them up. One lone person speaking up against them would be extremely dangerous.

Requiring openness will make it easier for moderate Muslims to act in large numbers to oppose these subversive publications. If they are not just individuals, but the large mass of American Muslims acting together, they can far more easily show that they have embraced the American Constitution and all its liberties by rejecting all such anti-American and criminal propaganda and ceasing to tolerate it within their mosques. "

As I said, GO READ THE WHOLE THING.

[eridani]

1. Sorry, but this is horseshit

Not the part about the Saudis, who are the Bush fuckbuddies anyway. He is STILL blocking investigation of Saudi support of OBL and Al Qaeda.

Congress has a responsibility to make sure that the war is waged properly; but meaningless opposition just to show off, when it will certainly prolong the war, is astonishingly selfish. Even if you think a war is wrong, when American lives are on the line, decent leaders do nothing to signal our enemies that we do not have the unity or resolution to win

Look, Card, you asshole. There is no way to wage an illegal and immoral war properly. And it't time that some Dems had the gonads to stand up to a very smart person who also happens to be a lying sociopathic whore. One who has vastly more responsibility for the occurence of 9-11 than the 100,000 Iraqis whose mass murder she and you are cheerleading. Define 'win,' you moral cretin.