BBC Breaking - 3 members of Allawi's family kidnapped.

[rooboy]

Apparently a couple of cousins and one other relative. Looking for a link.

[ogradda]

1. uh-oh

this is a twist..

[eleny]

2. For real?

[eleonora]

3. oooooh

that's not good for them..not good at all.

[Dem2theMax]

4. Now HOW will */Rove/you name it, spin this one to tell us

HOW GOOD IT'S GOING OVER THERE? And didn't Allawi tell us that himself about a month ago? I'd put a 'puke' smilie here but I feel for the family members.

[ignatius 2]

42. Allawi said that when he was here, but a couple of weeks later he changed

his tune big time. He must have gotten his bucket of money from the Bushco's then reality struck home upon his return.

Either way,he is a stooge and a puppet of the BFEE,but it is too bad about his relatives.
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[grasswire]

5. geez

A couple of weeks ago four members of his inner circle were gunned down, and it never made the U.S. news.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

6. Bad turn of events for * and Allawi

Looks like things ARE as bad as we think over there.

I feel for the family memebers.

[VolcanoJen]

7. Holy freaking crap.

Oh, wow. Not good news. Not at all.

[nine23]

8. But is it true?

I've got BBC World on satalite AND radio on right now, haven't heard a thing...

[Lone_Star_Dem]

9. It's on the crawler on the top of BBC page

http://news.bbc.co.uk/

No full report yet.

[NorthernSpy]

10. wouldn't you hate to be them?

From the Iraqi point of view, Allawi is collaborating with the foreign power that is shelling his own countrymen.

I mean, people are always throwing around words like "traitor" and "treason", but what Allawi's doing is the real deal, and there's just no way around that fact.

Not to be ghoulish, but, uh ... how long do you suppose he's got?

[Zhade]

28. For the Iraqis' sake, one hopes not long.

NT!

[nine23]

11. You're right...

It's on the bbc.co.uk website crawler - good eye.

All I can say is...I'm speechless.

[pinniped]

12. Did al-Zarqawi partake in this pesonally?

I know he did it. He does everything in Iraq.

[huellewig]

22. well except for the time..

when Maktada al-Sadr (sp?) was in charge. We can't have two bogeymen at the same time. That confuses the population. And NBC suffers.

It goes to our inability to realize we have multiple groups of enemies. The fact is we have lots of separate groups looking to harm our troops and kick out the invaders.

[Zhade]

30. Yes, Abu Musab al-Goldstein sure gets around!

NT!

[Wind Dancer]

77. With no doubt! n/t

[Dangerman]

13. A puppet got screwed.

This is what you get for being Chimpy little stooge Mr. Allawi.

[nickgutierrez]

14. CNN Report:

Allawi's cousin, his wife, and one other unknown person were the ones kidnapped.

[pinniped]

25. Shit, his wife?

Let me guess, "NO NEGOTIATIONS WITH TERRORISTS," riiiiiight?

Edit: I see, the cousin's wife, still bad.

[Tight_rope]

46. That's right, " "THE US DOES NOT NEGOTIATION WITH TERRORISTS"

So you know what that means. Allawi should be exspecting a tape with their beheadings soon.

[DS1]

58. mmm, reading comprehension is fun

His cousin's wife

[Zhade]

31. Allawi's wife, or his cousin's wife?

NT!

[JI7]

38. that's what i'm wondering also

[Justice]

50. I believe Allawi has 3 wives

2 in Saudi Arabia and a new one in Iraq.

[Sideways]

66. No That Is The Interim President He Just Married A Kurdish Woman

Alwali has one wife.

[lebkuchen]

68. delete

[Charlie Brown]

15. I hope they make it through this

It's not their fault their cousin's a tool.

[physioex]

16. I agree....

I totally dislike Allawi, but I do hate to see innocent civilians harmed....

[Buck Rabbit]

78. No kidding, I would never want to be help responsible for

the actions of my red state, red neck, haven't talked to in twenty years, cousins.

[Brundle_Fly]

17. NOW WE'LL

Finally get to see what happens, when somebody who's "important" family member is going to be beheaded.

Fuck the Bozos....

they made this mess.

[physioex]

20. I know what you are saying...

But we are talking about people, I hope not to say something like that about another person dying....

[Brundle_Fly]

23. I am not trying to be cruel

is it terrible, yes it is.
can we change it. obviously not.
lots of people have had to suffer thru this because of bush's war.

I bet you Allawi moves heaven and earth to save his wife.

[physioex]

24. He probably will, no doubt he is a puppet.....

But I am a tree hugging liberal, I will weep for his family just as much as I do for the other innocent Iraqi's who have lost their lives...

[Brundle_Fly]

26. that's many many tears. :(

Keep hugging those trees!

[reprobate]

57. We know what'll happen. We'll attack fallujah again.

[0rganism]

18. This won't end well

Ugh.

[Judi Lynn]

19. New story:Iraqi PM Allawi's Family Targeted by Kidnappers

Iraqi PM Allawi's Family Targeted by Kidnappers
Reuters

Nov 10, 2004 — BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Three members of Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi's family have been kidnapped by gunmen, a spokesman for the Iraqi interim government said on Wednesday.

A first cousin of the prime minister, the cousin's wife and another family member were seized from their home in Baghdad on Tuesday morning, spokesman Georges Sada said.

He gave no further details on the circumstances of their abduction, but a police source said there had been a short gun battle at the home in a southwestern district of the capital before the people were seized.

Sada said no demands had so far been made by the kidnappers.

"This is a close cousin — Allawi's father and his father are brothers," Sada told Reuters.
(snip/...)

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=240798

[drfemoe]

21. Another Link >

Over the same period, scores of foreigners have been seized, with many of them handed over to Islamic militant groups who have threatened to kill them if demands are not met. More than 35 foreign hostages have been killed, several by beheading.

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=618389§ion=news

[nikraye]

34. Will the U.S. negotiate?

It'll be interesting to see if the U.S./Allawi will negotiate for Allawi's cousin and his family's release...so far the U.S./Bush has refused to negotiate with terrorists/kidnappers.

[Skidmore]

35. I doubt * will allow negotiation. Allawi may be a puppet but he is also

a puppet who came out an criticized how the Bushistas were handling the war recently, didn't he? He is being taught a lesson.

[Judi Lynn]

37. Dubya is nothing, if not vindictive, from what we've read. n/t

[lebkuchen]

63. If the Bushies don't negotiate, they can probably kiss Allawi allegiance

goodbye, IMO.

It's a very interesting scenario, and Bush is in "check." How soon before he's "checkmated?"

[Sideways]

27. Judi I Just Got An Email From A Friend In UAE

She works for the Khaleej Times newspaper the other family member according to hush hush sources is a CHILD! This is "unconfirmed" if I hear more I will let you know.

[Judi Lynn]

33. Oh, no. Gulp. You'd think they'd have the good sense to leave the kid.

Looks as if they would attract universal rage if they hard a kid, wouldn't you think?

Sure hope they release the child, if the story is true.

[Sideways]

40. UPDATE Not Daughter But Daughter In Law

The rumor was daughter but it is now confirmed it is the daughter in law. No link BBC World just reported it on TV.

[BikeWriter]

41. Looks as if they would attract universal rage if they hard a kid,

How many thousand kids have we killed?

[Judi Lynn]

43. I meant a deliberate kidnapping and murder.

I've been very deeply aware from the first day of the murdered children in Iraq. I don't support it, it's a bogus war, completely wrong in every way.

On edit:

I also didn't support the years of sanctions which starved Iraqi children or simply destroyed their health permanently prior to _Bush's war of acquisition.

[atreides1]

52. But

Wouldn't you say that the sanctions were a form of deliberate murder,
we knew that Iraqi children were dying because of the sanctions, but
did very little to stop it.

And shelling or dropping bombs on a residential neighborhood, could also be considered deliberate murder. The military knew that some of the areas that they have fired on had a mainly civilian population.
That didn't stop them from doing it, I would call that deliberate murder.

As the old saying goes "What goes around, comes around".

[JI7]

29. anyone know if the kidnappers knew they were Allawi family members ?

[Guy_Montag]

32. they do now! n/t

[Judi Lynn]

36. Just heard on CBS radio news that there's been no communication

from whomever took them so far, and no demand for any money, etc.

[lebkuchen]

64. When we see heads roll after 48 hours, we'll know for sure

if it's a legitimate kidnapping or not.

I remember when the 1st beheading took place, and many thought it had been faked. There have been too many since then to know otherwise.

[xchrom]

39. another shocking moment in the iraq war

uh, no it's not.
not even a little surprising.

[Tight_rope]

44. Couldn't happen to a nicer man!

Lay with dogs and you get flees. Let dogs out and the dog catcher will gettum.

[ElectroPrincess]

45. I suspect this as potentially mis-information - propaganda!

They may just be claiming this so that when he DECLARES Marshall Law and commences to behave like the thug he is, we will sigh and exclaim, but they kidnapped and killed two of his cousins.

No, I don't believe this report for a moment. The administration crept up to "Marshall Law" in Iraq, but quickly redefined it as a night-time curfew.

Like the * Administration, I don't believe anything these right wing radicals in the implaced Iraqi government claim.

[bushisanidiot]

47. AWoL doesn't give a shit. He'll force an election in Iraq then pull out

after declaring that he personally "saved" iraqis from themselves.

I also think Osama will conveniently show up to distract everyone from the "election" in iraq.

[Jeff in Cincinnati]

48. We need a betting pool...

I've said all along that there's no way the Allawi is going to survive to the "election" in January -- if there's an election at all. Given that the country is awash in small arms and plastic explosives, it seems pretty clear that he's going to get snuffed sooner or later.

I'm betting that he doesn't live to see January 1, 2005.

[maddezmom]

49. new link: Iraqi PM's Cousin Kidnapped, Islamists Threaten

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Gunmen have abducted three relatives of Iraq (news - web sites)'s prime minister from outside their Baghdad home, the interim Iraqi government said on Wednesday.



A hitherto unknown Islamist group threatened to kill them in 48 hours unless premier Iyad Allawi calls off the U.S.-led assault on the rebel-held city of Falluja and frees prisoners.


But the government said it would not be influenced.


The prime minister's 75-year-old first cousin Ghazi Allawi was seized with his wife and son as they were leaving their home in southwestern Baghdad on Tuesday evening, it said.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=586&ncid=586&e=1&u=/nm/20041110/wl_nm/iraq_allawi_dc

[MrPrax]

51. Leverage?

Who grabbed them?

It would be a little cynical to suggest they are being keep 'safe' while Allawi makes the proper decisions, crucial for the 'freedom' of Iraqi people...

[wordout]

56. thats what i was thinking

or they're about to be chartered out of the country like bin Laden's family was after september eleventh.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

53. Good

Take the rest, and then take him, the fucking fascist puppet.

Read up on Allawi's history - fucker's a murderer himself.

We do prop up the best, don't we?

[ElectroPrincess]

54. You got that right ...

And there's no such entity as a *former* CIA Operative. <eg>

[Ripley]

55. Are the Blackwater mercs on strike?

Or were these extended family members just not allowed to live in the Green Zone? Or does this say something about how UNSAFE the safe zone is? Or, is just another example of how the rag-tag insurgents are beating the snot out of the world's only Super Power?

[lebkuchen]

59. excellent questions

The rebels are outsmarting Bush every step of the way.

[ElectroPrincess]

60. Makes you wonder ...

How many more insurgents the US Military would have captured/killed if we didn't have to WAIT to take the city until Bush Co. was safely reelected? <wink wink>

[lebkuchen]

62. I think Rove set up the Fallujah attack to redirect attention away

from the fraudulent election.

[Oilwellian]

61. Isn't Chalabi a cousin of Allawi as well?

I seem to remember reading that somewhere. Wonder if he's involved. What the hell was his family doing there? Something doesn't smell right.

[ElectroPrincess]

65. Well, perhaps these were not favored relatives who did not

rate a coveted place within our illustrious "Green Zone." Knowing Allawi is a former CIA Operative, I don't think he's the type personality to give a sh*t if they're wasted. Well, if it's filmed (be-headings) then he's cry for the cameras, declare Marshall Law ... and it will be "all OK" by the USA because he's understandably upset ... go ahead and massacre more of your OWN people ... anything for Bush Co. and the promise of more power.

[Sideways]

67. Martial Law Not Marshall FYI

I believe this story is true. Alwali was probably set up by a trusted adviser/security the grab for power over there is insane. And Alwali is universally loathed.

I think they will kill these people and sooner not later. This WILL hurt Alwali whether he cares about these deaths or not and from what I heard on BBC this cousin and he are quite close.

This is a major blow to the Interim Iraqi CONvernment.

[ElectroPrincess]

69. Thanks for the spelling correction ... Always learning and growing

:-)

[ElectroPrincess]

71. No this scenario plays in beautifully in the Neo-Cons

Fantasy playbook.

They honestly believe that the more you crush them, the more respect you will earn. Forget about the fact that none of them seriously studied history and military science.

The Neo-Cons will be giddy if this "allegedly close cousin" is murdered on video. Why? It will give that immoral thug Allowi the perfect EXCUSE to kill wantonly.

Hell, killing one of his cousins will give him "a mandate" for revenge. Just like September 11th was the excuse to take us into this country to begin with...

Ohhh Ahhhh ... "Every thing's changed since September the 11th" ... "The rules have changed."

Bullshit!!! It's the same old killing and terrorism that's been with us since the beginning of time.

We have a choice. Kill them all or find a way to make a settlement. It blows my mind how many Vietnam Vets believe that we could have won that war. That's just pathetic.

Nationalism is not confined to the United States of America. For every innocent we kill, we earn 5-10 enemies, i.e., their beloved relatives.

[TheKingfish]

70. Insurgents are stealing Israeli tactics n/t

[mortimer_az]

72. hostage

I bet the hostages will be used to leverage Alawi out of running in the election.

[realcountrymusic]

73. as ye reap

so shall ye sow

eom

rcm

[Straight Shooter]

74. brawwwk, brawk-brawk-brawk-brawk-brawwwwwk

chickens coming home to roost on Allawi's porch.

But always the innocents die. Always.

[mvd]

75. Nice going, Bush..

the insurgents effectively control the country. :grr:

At this rate, with fair voting, 2006 and 2008 will be ours..

[Az_lefty]

76. I can't imagine how Allawi didn't see this coming...

Having his family safe and secure somewhere would have been the rational thing to do.

[dkofos]

79. I'm waiting for the beheading tape .

[leesa]

80. Good. Betray your countrymen, pay the price.

[DrWeird]

81. LOL

live by the sword, die by the sword.

[VegasWolf]

82. Remember Asshole Puppet, you don't negotiate with terrorists! n/t

[NNN0LHI]

83. Damn! The only three valid votes Allawi would have gotten too n/t

[Horse with no Name]

84. Maybe not

My 2nd cousin twice removed is Trent Lott--I'd give the KKK his address if I had it,lol and I wouldn't vote for him in a million light years..can't always count on blood being thicker than water.
Innocents can't be held accountable for their fascist relations. I feel sorry for his family. I wish they could have found him.