Fox moves to fire (O'Reilly's) accuser

[UpInArms]

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/242845p-208086c.html

Tells judge it's not retaliation

Scandal-hit Fox News moved yesterday to fire an employee who says she was sexually harassed by Bill O'Reilly - but wants a judge to declare the canning isn't retribution.

Andrea Mackris, 33, said she was served legal papers about her termination by a man lying in wait for her at her Manhattan apartment building.

The documents said Fox had asked a judge to let the TV station dump her from a $93,200-a-year job as associate producer on "The O'Reilly Factor" - and to rule that the firing was not in retaliation for her accusations about the show's host.

Mackris sued O'Reilly and Fox News on Wednesday, saying her boss had made "disgusting" phone calls to her. O'Reilly sued Mackris the same day, alleging extortion.

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[MSgt213]

1. Of course it's not retaliation Fox is just downsizing and her job loss

is totally unrelated to fucking with their boy.

[goodboy]

3. they'll be downsizing, minus one O'really show.

[izzie]

2. I have not read much on this but this---

Some one keeps saying she could have hung up the phone. What the hell does that mean? It is too funny to be true.

[goodboy]

4. that means that no matter what o'reilly did, it is somehow her fault

So what if he was threatening her...she should've not been born, and then done all the things in her life that led to her working for o'really, and then this wouldn't have happened.

[central scrutinizer]

9. She should have worn a burkha

Of course it was her fault. She was probably dressing as a slut and any red blooded man would have assumed she was asking for it and acted just like O'Lielly. She may have said "no" but she really meant "yes". <sarcasm off>

[goodboy]

10. and, just because o'really's married should have nothing to do with it

Look what Clinton did?

[KayLaw]

18. Ah!

The difference is Monica Lewinsky was a more than willing participant.

[goodboy]

22. but....but....damn....(nt)

[tinanator]

28. LOL

spray this across the internets, its too funny.

[helnwhls]

5. and if she had hung up

and not recorded all that slop, she would have been accused of exaggerating his behavior.

[fishnfla]

13. I have a question like this too

I'm asking because as a man I have no understanding, so forgive my ignorance.

Some of the episodes of sexual harrassment occurred outside of the work place, at restaurants. I believe there were 4 instances where they went out to eat and he came on to her.

Please, this is not an indictment of the young lady,but if he acted like a lout the first time, why put yourself in the situation again?

As far as hanging up the phone, the complaint states on several occasions she did not answer when she saw his # on the caller ID.

[KayLaw]

21. I was in a similar situation

I just wanted to keep my job and my boss wasn't always like that. I kept up as long as I could just trying to change the subject when he started coming on to me, and told myself I could handle things and this was just part of life, blah, blah, blah. I knew if I spoke out I would lose my job, and, in the end, I did. When I left, he was still in and I was out on my butt. Looks like the same thing is happening here.

[kskiska]

27. The woman is always the one to go

even if the two are of equal rank in the organization.

[sandnsea]

23. Men are pigs

Women know it. Sorry guys, but some of you are. Women have had to put up with this kind of talk forever. Maybe it got worse as time went on, I don't know. I don't care if she did set him up, you can't set somebody up if they aren't acting like an ass in the first place. If he's guilty, he's guilty, end of story.

[belle]

41. O'Reilly certainly is, anyway.

[St. Jarvitude]

46. Oink oink! Squeeeeeeeal

I'd write some more, but it's time for my daily roll in my own filth.

[Mandate My Ass]

You're suggesting that women are responsible

for preventing sexual harrassment. If it happens then it's their fault because they didn't work hard enough to make it stop. The harrasser is now off the hook by your standards because she should have known better and tried harder. They used to disbelieve rape victims if they hadn't been beaten to a bloody pulp because that supposedly proved they didn't really mind what was happening to them.

C'mon.

Many jobs require working outside the workplace and TV producer would be one of them.

[fishnfla]

38. Yes thats true

Lots of business is conducted that way in the entertainment industry,its part of the job. He trapped her into going out that one time too, as a payback for getting her job back.

I just wish she would've kicked the sonofabitch in the nuts.

[freeplessinseattle]

40. Yes yes yes thank you! (nt)

[TaleWgnDg]

42. Simple. You comply b/c he's your boss w/ full ability to . . .

fire you, period. To promote you, to transfer you, to give you a raise, to give you a good project, etc., etc. That's why there is this ability to sue . . . and it's not easy to prove! Nope, no way!

[Bandit]

37. Right hang up on your boss..... Good way to earn promotions

Freeper logic in full view.

[rooboy]

6. "At first I thought Mr O'Reilly had a bee in his bonnet..."

"...until I realized it was a vibrator up his ass that was doing the humming."

[helnwhls]

8. LOL

[cmd]

7. better and better

How does fried Faux taste?

[goodboy]

11. a lot like crow I imagine.

[hyphenate]

12. Interesting

I know a woman whose company fired her after she reported them of violating the Americans with Disabilities Act. They also said it wasn't retaliatory. The company was determined to be in the wrong, and she won her lawsuit against them. It's very difficult to show it wasn't retaliatory, especially after all the press the story has gotten.

[Arianrhod]

16. AT&T

fired a friend of mine after she filed a sexual harassment suit against them.

This is standard corporate behavior. It is also an admission of guilt, IMO.

[gristy]

14. So Fox wants to fire this person after she publicly accusses her

boss of sexually harassing her, and she has a tape recording of him doing it, and Fox wants a judge to say pre-emptively that the firing isn't retaliation.

HAHAHAHAHAHA.HAHAHAHAA.hahohaha.weeeeeeeeeeeeeee.lol

Fox's idiot lawyers show their mindlessness again. Last time it was their suit against Al Franken. This time it will be their illegal retaliation firing of an employee.

[spotbird]

17. We know from the Franken suit that O'Reilly doesn't listen

to his lawyers. No lawyer with half a brain would come up with the idea of firing her now, this is all O'Reilly.

[kskiska]

30. We also know from the Franken suit

that Faux will do whatever O'Reilly asks them to do, no matter how stupid the action is. Faux could have said no to the Franken suit.

[TaleWgnDg]

20. Indeed . . . the last time we heard about Fox News and its

lawyers is when they were laughed out of the courtroom by the judge when they insisted that "fair & balanced" was their trademark in the Franken lawsuit. Unreal.

However, truth be told, it's not the lawyers, instead it's the client . . . and whether the lawyer can tolerate the client's stupidity and proceed with the case w/ a straight face.

[robbedvoter]

36. Being laughed out of court - mark of good entertainers!

Faux takes pride in that - in ANY reaction they get - just like a pissy teenager.
Against my better judgement, we organized a protest against Faux in NYC 3 years ago. They put a sign on their electronic billboard "Welcome protesters" and sent cameramen and henchmen to provoke us (got to see myself yelling back on Hannity&Colmes that night)

[BootinUp]

33. Obviously Fox chooses its lawyers the same way

they choose their newscasters. LOL.

[Arianrhod]

15. Evidence that O'Reilly is guilty. n/t

[TaleWgnDg]

19. Gee, does THAT mean that Bill O'Reilly will no longer be . . .

suggesting Ms. Mackris w/ this . . . ???



. . . . . . . 1-800-dial-bill ???

[stewert]

24. O'Reilly..........

I have all kinds of information about O'Dummy and his sexual harassment lawsuit on my web site at www.oreilly-sucks.com

I have it all on the forums because I am getting so many hits it almost used up my entire months bandwidth in 2 days. So if you want to get all the details just visit my web site.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

25. Gee....wasn't THAT handled well! Typical FOX idiocy.

[DrZeeLit]

26. More education!

Her job is really being outsourced (because we all know how GREAT they do with entertainment shows in India), and as we all know, the only cure for this is MORE EDUCATION! Of course, she will have to go back to elementary school to take advantage of that GROUNDBREAKING No Child Left Behind legislation. After she's passed all the tests, she can skip on over to her local Community College and get RETRAINED! And then... she'll be able to work for $7.00 an hour up here in Vermont at a ski resort.

[The Zanti Regent]

29. Looks like she gets the ARNOLD treatment.

Amazing how all of ARNOLD's accusers have been silenced...

[robbedvoter]

31. I was going to keep off this story...after the initial chuckle, but Faux

makes it relevant again.
From taudry adventures of hypocritical right wingers - too common to hold my interest anymore - to corporate BFEE mouth piece mishandling harrassment.
It just puts it back in the news for me. Ugly (and yeahm hardly unexpected)

[canuckybee]

32. My take on it is that it is like

being in a bad marriage. You know things are not right. You suspect you should get the hell away. But unlike the big picture in retrospect, when it is actually happening, it is an up and down thing. Some days are vile, but many many days are just so so, and some are even good. And you plug along thinking the good will overcome the bad. And once you finally take a stand, and tote up all the damage done, you stand in awe that anyone could be idiotic enough to have put up with it for so long.

It is just so damned easy to ask why the hell she put up with it for so long. But we all put up with things each day, so let's not judge.

[robbedvoter]

34. Since it's legit news again, check this beaut piece of writing:

http://www.jameswolcott.com/
I read it earlier - feeling a bit bad that I am spending time on this pathetic story. Now I am happy to spread it around - I hope Wolcott takes Faux to task next.

[Doosh]

35. Dan Rather laughs last

:)

[Bandit]

39. Why didn't they fire her a month ago when she first addressed the situation

Her lawyer and Fox lawyers had been arguing about this for several weeks until negotiations broke down. They knew all the details long before this ever went public but didn't make any effort to fire her. They thought they could intimidate her into going away and she would not be intimidated.

[robbedvoter]

43. The quality of her work only deteriorated after those talks....

I am imagining the stupid papers they just filed - you'll see I was right too!

[robbedvoter]

44. Freeper woman lawyer writes Derbyshire (National review)

RE: MY BOY BILL
The following got my attention.
"Derb---I am a lawyer in . My practice is entirely employment law, representing management (i.e., defendants). I do a lot of sexual harassment claims -- companies like being represented by a woman attorney, looks better.
"I read through the huge and detailed complaint. I also have some doubts -- if it was all that bad, WHY would she keep going out to dinner with him, go back to work for him, etc. But the quotes in the complaint bother me, because it suggests they were taped. And the allegations are really bad. This isn't just a guy at work being obnoxious, it is someone in a position of power over an employee, and that is what makes it particularly bad. No one should have to tolerate the things in the complaint in relation to their job (unless it is consensual, of course -- that's a different issue).
"All that being said, I come back to something that I have learned over 12 years of practice in this area -- the more outrageous the allegations, the more likely they are to be true. People don't make up outrageous stuff, they make up (or exaggerate) mild stuff. That's a generalization, of course, and certainly an individual could make up outrageous stuff -- particularly if there is a partisan reason, and there are lots of reasons to think this is partisan, the timing of it in particular. But in the back of my mind, I'm not liking this...."
Posted at 10:24 AM
http://www.nationalreview.com/thecorner/corner.asp

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

45. How I hope this goes before a woman judge!

Please tell me there's some justice in the world... :evilgrin:

[donsu]

47. does anyone have Andrea's back?

good lawyers? advisers? protection? the guy who served the papers acted ugly and snuck into her bldg.