Saddam undergoes surgery in Baghdad

[spinbaby]

BAGHDAD (AFP) - Former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein (news - web sites), in US custody since his capture 10 months ago, underwent a hernia operation two weeks ago at a Baghdad hospital, an Iraqi minister and a US official said.



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[davidinalameda]

1. got the hernia doing heavy lifting for the Reagan/Bush regime

back in the 80s

[Richardo]

30. HAHAHAHAHA!

good one dwickham :D:thumbsup:

[Lostnote03]

39. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA....

......whew, you were on top of that one.......

[David Zephyr]

43. LOL!

Dwickham! :)

[daleo]

2. Will there be post-op complications?

It would be convenient.

[hlthe2b]

5. My thoughts exactly....

[Freddie Stubbs]

11. The surgury happened two weeks ago

None so far...

[0007]

24. Tell us more doctor......

[Freddie Stubbs]

29. Some here seem to be convinced that he will die of complications

I wonder if any of them are doctors :shrug:

[anotherginger]

13. or something similar to the Russian Flu of the 80's? n/t

[Lerkfish]

18. similar to old USSR's leader with a cold, then pneumonia, then howdy!

He's dead.

[expatriot]

3. I wonder if the surgeons practiced "defensive medicine" nt

[Emboldened Chimp]

4. What's he still doing in Bagdad

Wouldn't he be at the Hague by now?

[napi21]

6. No. He's being tried by the people he hurt.

Trial will be in Iraq.

[Radius]

31. Gee I hope his rights aren't violated...

My bet..He gets the gallows or the scimitar.

[vogonity]

7. My guess is...

We will never hear another public word spoken by Saddam Hussein.

[bif]

8. Why are they announcing this 2 weeks later?

Just wondering.

[otohara]

9. Librul Press

I was wondering the same thing

[republicansareevil]

14. ditto n/t

[Radius]

10. All politics aside

He is a piece of shit and things would have been less complicated if the spec ops guys had just tossed a frag down that hole.

[Maple]

12. Assuming that's Saddam

and not one of his 7 known doubles

[DoYouEverWonder]

16. The reason why they didn't do that

was because the Kurds caught Saddam and then stuck him on the US alive. The Kurds staged the whole hidey hole thing and their were too many people around for the US troops to off him. That's what happens when you outsource.

[oneighty]

17. Jeeze Radius

Kill him first ask questions later. Man I be wanting you on my side. Just in case! Jeeze.

180

[Radius]

23. Many a Nazi

bought the farm from a frag being tossed into their hole.

My grandfather and father used the frag grenade as a clearing device in two wars. I assume it is still sop to frag a closed space before entering...

The guy is a slime, if he bought the farm what difference does it make.

At least the lame conspiracy theories would never start. Lobotomy, face transplants, etc..

[oneighty]

26. Conversely

According to other mythologies many a "Gung ho" (not to be confused with "Go hung") officer in Vietnam and other places got themselves "Fragged" too.

I think it is a sad thing to happen in either case (if true). I would not do it, would not condone it, and I would not serve in the military alongside somebody that might be inclined to do so.

I guess.

No not guess. I surly would not.

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[Radius]

34. I don't understand your post

They were military I am not. However my understanding from their accounts and reading is that using a fragmentation grenade to clear a room was sop in Europe, and the Pacific. They were used in Vietnam to clear closed spaces like bunkers, holes, etc. My father was there early in the war and was not an officer, the airborne units did not have the problems in 68 - 69 that some units did. He was an NCO and from his account had more experience than his CO.

I'm not saying he should have been knowingly killed, but that if they followed procedure, toss a grenade in a bunker before entering, things may have been different.

[oneighty]

65. Ah!

I thought perhaps you had not been in the military. I do not doubt the stories you have heard. I have heard similar tales from and about Korea and WW2. But I have no first hand knowledge.

And since I am a pacifist I do hope even our enemies when helpless against us are treated with human dignity as required by the Geneva Conventions, because perhaps one day it may be you or me or our loved ones hiding helpless in a hole in the ground and I hope that they be treated the same.

Don't you?

180

[Sterling]

48. "At least the lame conspiracy theories would never start."

Don’t you think transparency in the judicial process would accomplish the same thing even better?

You act like these “theories” are really a problem when after all they don’t really mean anything at all. Just people talking about ideas. Why is putting a stop to that your highest priority? Seems rather trivial does it not?

[Radius]

62. I will be

sure to use a sarcasam tag next time...

I hope he is tried and convicted of exactly what he is guilty of..

[0007]

71. The Americans that propped this dictator up with power were slime also.

Right 180?

[Bridget Burke]

19. Swoon! You must have an extremely large...

sense of righteousness.

We managed to have trials for some pretty big Nazis.

[Cocoa]

21. ooh, tough guy!

:eyes:

[Radius]

27. jebus

if they had fragged the guy I would be spared the lobotomy, implant, face transplant conspiracy theories.

For a guy that gassed women and children who really cares? You know that mustard gas is supposed to be a pretty shitty way to die.

[saigon68]

32. Napalm

Ain't too pretty either

War is hell ain't it.

[0007]

72. Who gave Saddam Hussein the gas and who gave information

where and when?

'Ya gotta complete the whole picture 180!

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[DrWeird]

42. Is that supposed to be "thought factorial?"

You're still not making any sense. I'm not blowing up any recruiting stations because I don't believe in violence against anybody. You, obviously, are; yet you send other people to do your dirty work, so you don't have to take any risks. I'll ask again, why would you be willing to sign up for the marines to satisfy a dumb bet, but you're not willing to sign up because they need you?

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[DrWeird]

45. Well, you just said up thread...

That you wanted troops to put themselves at risk and do your dirty work for you, but you're unwilling to take any risk yourself.

Ask anybody, if you're going to support a war, then you have to be willing to fight it yourself.

Ancient Greeks? The ancient Greeks weren't hypocrites (no pun intended). They recognized that if you were going to support a war, you should be willing to sacrifice.

"I'm not going to join the marines"

Obviously. That's why you're a chickenhawk.

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[DrWeird]

50. But that is what you said.

It's right up there for everybody to see.

"Now go sit at the kiddy table and let the adults talk."

That's right. You're so much more mature then I am. That's why you're using logic and pointing out hypocrasy and plain old cowardice, while all I can do is froth at the mouth and spew out really lame insults.

Touche.

[Sterling]

53. Why is his post still up?

You would figure after 100 plus posts he would have been shown the rules at least once. At any rate he sure is not winning many friends or helping his arguement. I have a mental picture of someone with viens popping out getting ready to pass out with rage. Not a pretty site.

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[Sterling]

52. WOW!

You have some serious issues bro. I really hope you can get some anger management quick before you hurt yourself or even worse someone else.

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[DrWeird]

66. Actually, I'm an organic chemist, thanks anyway.

Personally, I think its rather cute when amateurs like to make themselves look smart by talking chemistry, but that's besides the point.

"It all stemms from weird's inability to follow a simple statement. Thought != (that means not equal, not factorial) action."

Actually, it stems from your inability to realize that if somebody is going to support the war, they should be willing to enlist. This is a pretty simple concept that almost all intelligent people will agree with, even those who are guilty of chickenhawkery. You've been completely unable to refute this idea, instead you fly off the handle and make bad analogies like "people who support abortion should all go out and have abortions" or just post nonsense like "thought! = action"

I've always thought it was a little weird that people would fall back on weird, nonsensical equations or statements like that and think they're making a point. I guess it's the kind of person who randomly posts recipes for Tim McVeigh style bombs. (all the while complaining about threadjacking). I'll ignore how you advocated terrorism against the United States.

Ever been in a militia or something?

[Forkboy]

57. The good Dr seems to have hit a nerve

someone is getting all upset and stuff.

[Radius]

63. Quote me with a post #, ante up(nt)

[Sterling]

67. Most of your posts have been deleted?

It's hard to quote you when you can't stay within the rules of civility enough to keep your posts up for more than a few mins.

[Radius]

64. The irony of a truth table is lost on weird..

!= means not equal to..Used as shorthand in Aristotelian logic, and C.

! behind a number is a factorial indicator.

[Sterling]

47. Is that your solution for everything?

Blow it up or kill it if it gets in your way or you don't like it. Jeez you are too agro even to think practically.

Taking prisoners is a great way to gather intel. Trails are a great way to deal with criminals legitimately and civilized people prefer them to summery justice.

[DrWeird]

51. Nope.

his solution is: have somebody else blow it up or kill it.

[Sterling]

54. I don't see him advocating any kind of violence

Could you show me a link to where he gives the recipe for a truck bomb like you just did?

[DrWeird]

61. I'm assuming this is a misplaced post.

You seem to have replied to the wrong person.

[Sterling]

69. Yes I was replying to Radius sorry.

Not sure how I did that.

[Radius]

55. Not What I said

Thought it was odd that they didn't toss a grenade in. Maybe they knew he was there..
I jokingly said him being fragged would save the conspiracy theories. Lobotomy, face transplant, etc.

The Iraqis will deal with him. BTW he hasn't talked. I wonder if Iraqis could get him speaking with his methods?

I can link some video of his methods.

No he will be nice and cozy, just like the Nazis were, until he swings.

Thanks for the psych consult.

[Sterling]

58. And you know this how? "BTW he hasn't talked."

Your joke was not really very funny and came across as very serious. I would say judging from your other posts you tend to think violence is a viable solution for most problems.

I doubt that you would be in the loop if Saddam gave up anything important and oddly enough given he is under Bush administrations control I would not hold my breath waiting on details Saddam may have to share about how all this stuff happened in the first place.

I am curious.

Oh you’re welcome for the counseling. You seem to be a little more calm now.

[Radius]

60. You are correct

I would have no idea if he did. MSM has said repeatedly he hasn't but that is really worthless.

Now I could personally care less if he dies a violent death. That does not make me violent, that makes me callous in regards to Saddam.

Your judgment is wrong. Violence has a place, but the solution used depends on the problem.

I'm usually quite polite, I just despise weird.

[Sterling]

68. Well I don't know either of you but

this thread was not your finest hour.

[Mokito]

15. And I'm sure the bush family chipped in for a lobotomy

Can't have him remembering all those nasty little facts, can we.

[Disturbed]

20. Rumor is that the kurds were never paid.

There was a $25 Mill Reward. Rumor has it that the Kurds were stiffed.

[UTUSN]

22. So the Chip Was Implanted... n/t

[chopper]

25. brilliant...

so saddam hussein has better access to healthcare than 45 million americans. great.

[skjpm]

28. I resent that Saddam has better healthcare than I do

I bet he didn't have a copayment.

[Richardson08]

36. Did he have a private or semi-private room?

[Sterling]

49. One post would do it I think.

But you are obviosly in a hurry to get your post count up.

[Richardson08]

37. Does he have a coinsurance and a deductible?

[Richardson08]

38. Did he get a referral from his primary care physician?

[Richardson08]

40. are his drugs covered by insurance?

[Richardson08]

41. thought the govt didn't want to take over the healthcare system

[dweller]

70. So they cut him open and poked around

did they finally find those damned WMD's ???


didn't think so.

dp

[doni_georgia]

74. They just want to show

how they let the inspectors do their jobs before they... well, after they... aw, who cares? They didn't find any. So much for that excuse. "The dictator ate my homework" ??? Yeah, coming from Bush, I can see that.

Mac in Ga

(on edit - forgot the sig for the MiG)

[Tight_rope]

73. Now ain't this some shit...Saddam gets FREE health care from the US!

[NC_Nate]

75. If the Military did it....

I'd pass.. :)