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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 11:52 AM
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The service question
Edited on Sun Sep-12-04 12:16 PM by proud2Blib
That fat lady is singing. Can you hear her? Forget about the typewriter argument. Let the repukes have that one. US News - a conservative mag!! - has an independent report which makes the AWOL story worse for Bush. It also alleges a cover up by the White House!

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/040920/usnews/20guard.htm

:bounce:

Post this on EVERY blog site and forum you can find. Send this link to all major media you correspond with. Let's make this top news by this time tomorrow!!!
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 11:57 AM
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1. bwa ha ha ha!
nice!
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freeplessinseattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:00 PM
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3. zipideedoodah
zipideeay!

my oh my what a wonderful day!!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 11:59 AM
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2. Hi proud2Blib! You Need to Post the Correct Headline....
Edited on Sun Sep-12-04 12:01 PM by leftchick
this is a Great Article! :)

The service question

<snip>

Slump

Bush's records show that he did his duty for much of the first four years of his commitment. But as the Vietnam War wound down, his performance slumped, and his attendance at required drills fell off markedly. He did no drills for one five-month period in 1972. He also missed his flight physical. By May 2, 1973, his superiors said they could not evaluate his performance because he "has not been observed."

Albert C. Lloyd Jr., a retired Air Force colonel who originally certified the White House position that Bush had completed his military obligation, stood by his analysis. After a reporter cited pertinent Air Force regulations from the period, he complained that if the entire unit were judged by such standards, "90 percent of the people in the Guard would not have made satisfactory participation."

Some other experts disagree. "There is no 'sometimes we have compliance and sometimes we don't,' " says Scott Silliman, a retired Air Force colonel and Duke University law professor. "That is a nonsensical statement and an insult to the Guard to suggest it."

The regulations must be followed, adds James Currie, a retired colonel and author of an official history of the Army Reserve. "Clearly, if you were the average poor boy who got drafted and sent into the active force," he says, "they weren't going to let you out before you had completed your obligation."
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:18 PM
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14. Done
Thanks. I am new to this LBN posting.

And what a way to break in, eh??

This is such a coup - I have been on this AWOL story for 4 years now. This is the happiest day I have had in a looong time.
:toast:
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:01 PM
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4. I won't let them have a damn thing.
Their lies will be excused no more. They cannot simply claim that properly authenticated documents are forged.

Apparently CBS opened the floodgate. It is about time our coward media exposed the little prince for the traitor that he is.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:07 PM
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:11 PM
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9. Character
Bush's chicken-shit lying has been going on for 30+ years and the public needs to be shown what a fraud he is. That is why it's relevant.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:13 PM
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10. Irrelevant, MY A$$.......................
This goes to W's credibility, of which he has NONE.
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Chico Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:14 PM
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12. Who says Kerry is going to be sensitive to terrorists?
Edited on Sun Sep-12-04 12:15 PM by shpongled
Get real! What planet do you live on? Oh yeah I forgot - that one controlled by mass marketed right wing talking points.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:19 PM
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17. It IS relevant, damn it!!
It proves he's a lying weazel.

Not the kind of commander in chief I want.:puke:
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Syncronaut Seven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:21 PM
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20. Thanks for enlightening me!
And here I was concentrating on the root causes of terrorism. Silly me, how could such a simple solution have eluded me !?!
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:22 PM
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21. Apparently some feel we will win
By simply killing them all
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21winner Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:23 PM
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23. bye,bye
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:08 PM
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7. Flipping through the t.v. channels today... Kerry is losing... bad.
Didn't you know?
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Chico Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:17 PM
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13. I thought Howard Dean was still in the lead (nt)
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:18 PM
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16. You forgot the scream that sank the Titanic.
nt
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Chico Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:20 PM
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18. Goes to show how quickly things can change (nt)
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freeplessinseattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:18 PM
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15. don't put too much faith in polls
there are so many variables that aren't taken into account, like the military folks stationed elsewhere. doubt they're being polled and since they're already feeling resentful, now with their leader being proven to have shirked his duty I'm sure his loyalty rating has dropped even more.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:02 PM
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5. Gee, I wonder if the namby-pamby's around here will want the
Democrats to use this in attacking Bush. Probably not, it's best that we remain vague in our opposition.
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mrbassman03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:10 PM
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8. Nah, some other argument will come up...
Like US News was using a different type of computer than the White House to look up the information, so none of the facts they found were true. Oh, and they'll come out with evidence that Kerry's fingerprints were all over the 'forgery' and that an investigation was pending. Something like that.
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Psst_Im_Not_Here Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:13 PM
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11. Is the storm
finally brewing enough to get more coverage? I'd have to say that it's strengthened to at least category 3? Please forgive the hurricane analogy!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:20 PM
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19. That's a great analogy
There's a cat 5 hurricane hitting the White house right about NOW!!
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Syncronaut Seven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:25 PM
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24. I believe the proper terminology is
Cat. 5 SHITSTORM! See you at the Hague boys!
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GOPAgainstGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-12-04 12:22 PM
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22. Great Article - All this Bush AWOL Stuff is in Kitty Kelley's Book Also!

Bush would not take the NG physical because of his drug problem and he was worried about drug traces showing up in his blood tests!

Lots of fun details below and many we cannot post unfortunately. Book is out Tuesday and will be number 1 on the charts. Kitty will be on Today Show Mon - Wed this week and many other programs. All the details here:

Kitty Kelley “The Family” - Here’s Info on Book Details

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=795121&mesg_id=795121

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Against Bush-Cheney ’04, Inc.
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"Insider’s News”, Vol 1 - Kerry-Edwards Campaign Doing Well
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x748458
“Insider’s News” Vol 1.1 - Great Anti-Bush Sites
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x756409


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