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annxburns Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 06:56 PM
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Bush will avoid sneak peak at jobs data ..
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 06:58 PM
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1. Would it matter?
This late in the game, just two months before the election? If they were to come in good now, would it mean anything?
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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 06:59 PM
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4. Oh yea
Job numbers mean a lot this late in the game. If they were to come in negative, it would be VERY bad news for Bush.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 06:58 PM
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2. If the numbers were good I bet he'd mention them
But what do I know...
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 06:58 PM
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3. must not be do hot then
not that the employment rate means diddly squat.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 06:59 PM
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5. The bastard already looked and didn't like what he saw.
There is always more to these rumors than meets the eye.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:01 PM
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6. Get this blip from the idiots who are always having to adjust the figures:

<snip>
Economists expect the report to show about 150,000 payroll jobs were created last month, up from a disappointing 32,000 in July, while the unemployment rate is forecast to be unchanged at 5.5 percent.
<snip>

They come out with a bogus set of numbers on Friday, then a couple of weeks later they have to come out and 'adjust' (just another word for being forced to tell the truth sort of) them.

Rat bastards.
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:07 PM
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7. "I didn't peek"! "I didnt inhale"!
Do me a favor. We will know EXACTLY what those figures say by what Bush says tonight. If he is boasting the figures will be good. Wanna bet???
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:11 PM
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25. I'd be betting the way you're betting.
If the jobs numbers were good or great, you can bet your bippy that he'd want to include that in his speech - it would only buttress whatever arguments he'd try to make that his frickin' tax cuts are working. cheney last night made a VERY vague reference to "...and people are going back to work." Never stopped to spell that one out, any, or milk it for any benefit. That's because there is none.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:08 PM
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8. He was never going to do it
it would be totally improper.
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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:17 PM
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9. Hahahahahaha ! Stop it ! My side is hurting!
*
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:18 PM
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10. It is not even remotely possible that anyone in the Bush administration
would be truthful about something like this. It would not even occur to them to be honest. Therefore, White House spokeswoman Claire Buchan is lying. I earlier doubted that Bush had seen the report, but now that the White House has issued this statement I am certain that Bush knows the numbers.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:23 PM
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11. You are so right, Snippy
it reminds me of when * had one of his bicycle accidents and the spokesman, defending his apparently suicidal method of bike riding, was saying, "it's not as if he was riding around whistling show tunes" or something, and someone here immediately concluded that therefore, that's exactly what * WAS doing!

If he doesn't mention the jobs numbers, or jobs at all, then the numbers must be bad.

Of course, he will spew "we're making good progress" 90 times, but that's par for the course.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:24 PM
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12. The numbers must be dismal
If they were anything but dismal, he'd use them.

Now his only hope is that Frances buries them tomorrow.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:36 PM
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16. Well, other republican leaders have been known to pray for
a devasting hurricane to hit Florida, so maybe Bush has made arrangements with that vengeful and destructive God of his.
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:26 PM
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13. can you fix,pay or threaten someone to put out good numbers
Edited on Thu Sep-02-04 07:27 PM by cal04
because if you can, I guarantee they'll be good.
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indypaul Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:31 PM
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14. With the net loss of over
1 million jobs since this POS took office what does
it matter if the rate of unemployment is 5.6 or 6.5
per-cent? In over a million households that is 50 to 100
per-cent. And worse yet the loss of medical insurance
coverage in many cases. Not since Herbert Hoover folks
has the job situation been this dismal and is more than
enough cause for any employed person to get off the fence
and help vote this man out of office. Many states have
a voter registration requirement of 30 days prior to the
election. It is not only the duty of each and every person
on this board to make sure they are properly registered to
vote but every person with whom you speak in the next month
should be asked if they are registered to vote and if not
see that the proper steps are taken to get that job done.
The last thing we need is a lot of "sweet talkin and slow
walkin" in getting this job done. Failure to register and
vote will guarantee four more miserable years of lost
hope for this country.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:32 PM
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15. ok, chump, let's get this straight. you are going to purposefully bury
your head in the sand and blather on with speculation about the condition of the economy even though we have paid millions of tax dollars to generate this official report which you have every right to examine well before it is made public.

right?

that's right, isn't it, shrub? is this how you ran ALL of your businesses? have corporate meetings without looking at the numbers? what a total farce your administration is. what a complete fake and fraud you are. what a dismal excuse for a president you make.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:40 PM
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17. They are faking us out. Probably a lot better than last month.
After all, they couldn't be much worse. Seriously, they lie about everything and that includes lying.
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:45 PM
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18. "sneak peak" my ass...He's already seen the report & it's bad news!
We all know that Bush* would never miss the opportunity to use something good to help boost his selfish self-centered ego. Who does he think he's fooling. He's already gotten the 411 and that's why they are not coming out with the report publicly until Friday. The day after he tells America more new and improved "BULLSHIT". Trust me if it were good news, that damn report would have been released today.
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Tarheelhombre Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:57 PM
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21. If the number is Bad, Bush will not want to mention the economy tonight
Because we could juxtapose his comments tonight with the numbers tomorrow. So we should be able to tell what the numbers are by how confident and boastful he is about the economy tonight. If the numbers were great, he would definitely say something bold about the direction of the economy, since many people will not be paying attention tomorrow because of the Hurricane and Holiday Weekend.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:56 PM
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19. At this point good numbers won't help him much.
Edited on Thu Sep-02-04 07:56 PM by Snellius
Unless they're astronomically high, which is unlikely. But if they're bad, or even flat, they could continue to hurt him.

(With the stakes so high -- these are the last stats before the election -- I wouldn't be surprised if they are "revised" downward two months from now. I wouldn't even be surprised if the U.S. Chamber of Commerce secretly suggested its members to add a few thousand "hires" last month who will suddenly be found expendible after the ballots are in.)
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:21 PM
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26. That's what I'm hoping over the next couple of weeks. They'll finish
on a high tonight, which will mean a bounce. Even if it's a millimeter's worth, the media will certainly play it up. But reality's gonna hit soon, too. Misery in Florida where lots of people are already strapped and don't need more hardship. The REAL job figures out tomorrow, and just up the road a very SHORT distance: the Thousandth Death. NOBODY will be able to ignore that Iraqi Debacle Milestone. NOBODY. And the convention? By then, it'll more likely be "what have you done for us lately, george?" I'm hoping people will snap out of their stupor, and any bounce is quickly vaporized by the wolves that all the savvy p.r. on earth can no longer keep away from the door.
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ochazuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 07:57 PM
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20. Impossible. Absolutely impossible.
The idea that he wouldn't check the numbers before giving that speech defies imagination. Rove would kill anyone who suggested such a thing.
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:01 PM
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23. Does ANYONE in the administration really care about the numbers?
I'll never understand why middle class folks would choose these arrogant people. Haven't they noticed that under Republican leadership (beginning with Reagan) the middle class has shrunk considerably?
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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:00 PM
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22. At 7:26 C, they'll start trading on the #
And whisper # seems to be 150k, like that's good?

And we'll have fun fun fun 'til Daddy takes the Tbird away.
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highnooner Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 08:06 PM
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24. What is he going to say?
Jobs improved by negative 200,000 just last month. Even the most optimistic data ain't bailing him out at this point.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-04 10:57 PM
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27. Told you so...

Fox was spinning this two days ago. Bad news tomorrow.
Somebody told Fox... wonder who?
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