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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 09:21 AM
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Keyes likens abortion to terrorism
Republican U.S. Senate candidate Alan Keyes said Monday that women who choose to undergo abortions and the physicians who perform the procedure are essentially terrorists because "the evil is the same."

The remarks came as Keyes was explaining why three months ago he said that the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks were a "warning" from God to "wake up" and stop "the evil" of abortion.

"Now, you think it's a coincidence that on September 11th, 2001, we were struck by terrorists an evil that has at its heart the disregard of innocent human life?" Keyes said in a May 7 speech in Provo, Utah. "We who have for several decades killed not thousands but scores of millions of our own children, in disregard of the principle of innocent human life -- I don't think that's a coincidence, I think that's a warning.

"I don't think that's a coincidence, I think that's a shot across the bow. I think that's a way of Providence telling us, 'I love you all; I'd like to give you a chance. Wake up! Would you please wake up?' "
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"I think it's a deeply troubling statement," Obama said. "To suggest that somehow the slaughter of innocent people in New York and in Washington was somehow brought about as a consequence of women exercising their reproductive freedom is not the way most people here in Illinois think."

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-sen17.html
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 09:22 AM
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1. Does his characterization of "evil" extend to capital punishment?
...didn't think so...
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 09:23 AM
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2. Or the innocents killed in Iraq?
Naw...
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shaolinmonkey Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 09:25 AM
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3. Indeed, not to mention the outrageously skewed incarceration rate
for African Americans. Keyes is insane.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 09:29 AM
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8. Yep. He's nuts.
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 08:30 PM
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26. WACKOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 09:28 AM
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7. Republicans believe in letting you be born and then killing you.
They do this through war, poverty, and capital punishment.
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bogey18 Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:22 PM
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39. There is one of those deep belly laughs in that statement
that makes you think you might be cracking up because the truth is so ungodly painful.

When they asked the woman with 6 HIV infected children why she continued to have babies, she said birth control was immoral.

My wife worked at Planned Parenthood for 10 years, and at the end I started to worry about her life. People that get fixated on this "they're murdering the poor little babies" to the point where they think they are on some kind of mission from God are some of the scariest people I have ever met - there is just something missing in people like this.

The only countries that have this level of insanity taken seriously to the point of allowing people with these kind of thoughts to rule them are countries in which Muslim extremism is a viable political entity and Christian fundamentalism has a powerful influence on politics. We are so much like them - killing in the name of God. It must be why we hate them so much.
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fdr_hst_fan Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 04:37 PM
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48. And they MUST be making some sort of profit
on it somewhere along the line, or they wouldn't give a damn!
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 09:34 AM
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12. The logic is too faulty to even grace with the comparison
"What is done in the course of an abortion is as a result of some decision made on the basis of somebody else's sense of their interests, convenience, emotional situation, whatever it may be,"

This makes terrorists of anyone who cuts you off on the freeway or takes the last piece of chicken off the platter.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 09:28 AM
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4. So...we as a nation had people killed because we as a nation killed
innocents?

OK, then remember this, Mr. Keyes. We drop BOMBS on innocents. Unless you believe that our weapons are god-guided then you have to accept that we kill innocents during wartime.

Are you then, Mr. Keyes, against war too?
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 09:28 AM
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5. go Alan!
Edited on Tue Aug-17-04 09:30 AM by Cocoa
when Karen Hughes said something like this, she had to go into hiding.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/27/hughes.abortion.reut/


Now Keyes is bringing the ugliness of the right-wingers back up to the surface for everyone to see. :bounce:


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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 09:28 AM
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6. Keyes can't help himself - he is addicted to the sound of his own voice
Edited on Tue Aug-17-04 09:29 AM by yellowcanine
saying outrageous things. That's why he accepted the offer of the Illinois pubs. That and the fact that it's a gig and he had nothing else going so why not?
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 09:32 AM
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9. So when will reporters ask * if he agrees with Keyes????? I know. When
the proverbial pigs become airborne and Rush needs a winter jacket at that place where he is going.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 09:33 AM
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10. the republican God is a really sick one n/t
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 09:34 AM
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11. Well...the slaveholder angle just wasn't working for him... n/t
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 09:40 AM
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13. As usual, he doesn't give shit after they are born.
Alan Keyes on Welfare & Poverty


Constitutiondoes not require separation of church and state
The "separation of church and state" doctrine is a misinterpretation of the Constitution. The First Amendment prohibition of established religion aims at forbidding all government-sponsored coercion of religious conscience. It does not forbid all religious influence upon politics or society.
Source: Organizational website, RenewAmerica.us, "On The Issues" Aug 3, 2004

No socialism for poor children-invigorate families instead
Q: The United States has the highest rate of child poverty of any major Western industrialized nation. There are 13.5 million American children living in poverty. What specific plans do you have to reduce child poverty in America?
A: America need not turn to socialist measures, with all the lethargy and servility that they bring in their train, to improve the lot of its children.
A liberation of charitable and entrepreneurial energy, which my proposal to abolish the income tax would effect, and a re-invigoration of the family and the other associations that are the fruits of liberty and self-government will usher in an age of increasing prosperity, widely and deeply shared. This is the only way to help the poor compatible with American political and moral traditions; it is the way not taken in the old welfare state; it is the way we must take today.
Source: National Association of Children’s Hospitals survey Jan 8, 2000

Volunteer for community service; not via government funding
Q: Do you support funding for national community service programs such as AmeriCorps?
A: I am a great believer in volunteerism in this country, but I think it’s time we understood that it ought to be just that. The business of helping one another is a business that ought to be centered in the private sector, in the faith sector in this country. I think government’s involvement has been detrimental.
Source: Republican Debate at Dartmouth College Oct 29, 1999

Shift welfare from government to the faith sector
Government has botched up the welfare program, because when you enter the business of helping folks and - to put it frankly - you help them without the sermon, I think you do them harm. Efforts in which we are aiming to achieve mutual help for one another should be put back in the hands of the private and faith sector in this country.
Source: Republican Debate at Dartmouth College Oct 29, 1999

Disintegration of the family causes social ills
We must end government programs like the family-destroying welfare system and sex-education courses that encourage promiscuity. These programs actually hasten the moral breakdown. Our first priority should be restoring the moral and material support for the marriage-based two-parent family. The disintegration of the family is the major contributing factor in poverty, crime, violence, the decline in educational performance, and a host of other expensive social problems.
Source: www.keyes2000.org/issues/welfareandfamily.html 1/7/99 Jan 7, 1999

Jewish support of welfare for blacks causes enmity
The tragic and violent clashes between blacks and Jews are unhappily not the product of a unique and isolated set of circumstances. I believe that, unwittingly, Jewish supporters of the government-dominated welfare state approach to the economic and social problems of the black community helped to create the mentality that now produces anger and anti-Semitism in black neighborhoods. Welfare state socialism encourages
Source: Our Character, Our Future, p. 48-50 May 2, 1996

Encourage two-parent families instead of paying baby bonus
Most taxpayers are sick to death of a costly system that encourages and perpetuates poverty. The aim is to finally correct the perverse incentive system, which seems to enforce idleness and penalize people who work hard.

Current proposals for reform don’t go far enough. They entirely neglect the damaging impact that the system has had on family structure. It discourages marriage. It promotes single-parent, female-headed households. Instead of paying what amounts to a baby bonus to unwed mothers, we should find ways to provide a marriage bonus.

Unfortunately, present proposals merely add a work requirement to the baby bonus policy, and that’s not good enough. It’s right and necessary to encourage work rather than idleness. But for real welfare reform, we need to do more than fix the economic illogic of the welfare system--we need to work at mending the family structure it has helped to undermine.
Source: Our Character, Our Future, p. 57-9 May 2, 1996

http://www.ontheissues.org/Alan_Keyes.htm

Alan Keyes on Social Security


Supports privatization & Lock-box

* Keyes supports the following principles regarding Social Security:Allow workers to invest a portion of their payroll tax in private accounts which they manage themselves, or which are managed by private firms contracted by the government.
* Invest a portion of Social Security’s assets collectively in stocks and bonds instead of US Treasury securities
* Support a lock box measure, limiting Congress’s ability to spend Social Security and Medicare surpluses.

Source: Vote-Smart.org 2000 NPAT Jan 13, 2000

Keep our promises on Social Security benefits, guaranteed
For many years, my slogan on Social Security has been simple and clear. We’ve got to keep the promises we’ve made, because folks who have paid into the system in good faith ought to be able to expect that they will get the benefits that they have been promised. And we ought to guarantee that, even if we have to pay for it out of general revenue.
Source: Arizona Republican Primary Debate Nov 21, 1999

Let people who earn their money invest their own money
We’ve got to keep the promises we’ve made. But to make solvent, we have to stop making promises we can’t keep. We can’t keep the promise that the government is going to manage money that people earn over the course of their lifetimes better than the people who earn that money. We go out and work for it, we make the sacrifices, we have the sense to support ourselves, then we ought to be trusted to invest that money in ways that will produce the best return for us and our family.
Source: Arizona Republican Primary Debate Nov 21, 1

http://www.ontheissues.org/Alan_Keyes.htm

Alan Keyes on Families & Children


We have suffered because of our abandonment of His name
We have suffered in this country, in the failing schools, in the broken marriages, in the rising tide of crime and violence; we have suffered, since they withdrew our right to reverence God, all the consequences that must follow from our abandonment of His name. We know that the Founders put this right first for a reason: because it is, above all, the foundation from which comes our ability to stand for and understand and defend all the other rights we claim.
Source: Rally in Blairsville, Georgia Oct 21, 2003

Don’t lower crime age as a result of adult moral failure
Q: What should be the minimum death penalty age for young felons convicted of deadly crime?
A: we ought to be lowering the age at which we judge people to be adults. I believe that the tendency in that direction now, to want to treat our children as if they are adults, is a confession of our own failure, our own failure as a society to maintain the structures of family life, to maintain the basis of moral education. As a result, yes, we have children now in whom there exists a howling moral void and those children engage in some acts that are heinous and shocking to us. But at the same time, I think we need to respect the difference that exists between children and adults. We need to insist from adults on moral accountability and moral responsibility. We need to help our children develop that ability to be mature adults. But I don’t think that we should take out our failure of moral education on younger and younger children. I think that this is a great error.
Source: GOP Debate in Manchester NH Jan 26, 2000

Save kids’ souls-they don’t need free speech
Q: In free-speech terms, do people have the right under the First Amendment should they be kept from that right on these computers? A: I don’t think it’s a free speech issue. It’s an issue of public decency. Anyplace you let our children into ought to be subject to standards of public decency that make it clear that they are not going to be polluted with garbage. Don’t use the First Amendment as some excuse to destroy our children’s lives and souls. It doesn’t have to be -- it’d be easy as pie to put a few computers off in a room you don’t let children in and let adults have access to them? You can solve the problems if you want to. The libraries right now are egregiously ignoring their responsibility to our kids, trying to claim free speech rights. I’ve got to tell you something. My kids don’t have the right to free speech. And they don’t need to have it until they grow older.
Source: GOP Debate in Michigan Jan 10, 2000

Kids need love from a two-parent marriage
Q. What’s the number one challenge facing children today?
A. Children need love. Those who by nature and the customs of a healthy society are most obliged to give this love are the child’s parents. The well-being of children is therefore primarily dependent on the health of the marriage-based, two-parent family. The most pressing “issue” for children is, then, will we as a people sustain, defend, and honor marriage, and its consequences, including the very life of the child, born or unborn.
Source: National Association of Children’s Hospitals survey Jan 8, 2000

Health insurance is family responsibility, not government’s
Q. Even if Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program enroll all “eligible” children, there would still be millions of uninsured children. How do you propose insuring each and every child in America?
A. It is not the office of government directly to insure children or anyone else for health costs. Tax and fiscal policies that promote opportunity and responsibility will restore to families the capacity to do what they can do with maximal discretion and love.care for their own flesh and blood, and those they have adopted in love. It is a common duty of all members of society to attend to the needs of children neglected by inadequate family care, but this duty falls first to the extended family and the local community, including most of all the churches, and then to localities and states. Institution of a national governmental program is a confession of failure in charity and self-government.
Source: National Association of Children’s Hospitals survey Jan 8, 2000

Radical gay agenda is destroying the family
It’s about time we all faced up to the truth. If we accept the radical homosexual agenda, be it in the military or in marriage or in other areas of our lives, we are utterly destroying the concept of family. We must oppose it in the military. We must oppose it in marriage. We must oppose it if the fundamental institution of our civilization is to survive. Those unwilling to face that fact and playing games with this issue are doing so irresponsibly at the price of America’s moral foundations.
Source: (X-ref Civil Rights) Republican Debate in Durham, NH Jan 6, 2000

Shape our children’s consciences in the fear of God
Q: How would you interrupt this culture of violence? A: The first thing we have to do is restore this country’s allegiance to its basic moral principles. We express great shock and outrage that we are bloodying the hallways of our schools with the blood of our children. What about the blood of our children killed in the womb on the basis of a doctrine that completely rejects the basic principles on which this nation was founded? If our rights come from God, then we ought to shape our children’s consciences in the fear of God. And I think that what we’re seeing in our schools is the direct result of our failure to respect that heritage and to pass it on.
Source: Des Moines Iowa GOP Debate Dec 13, 1999

Disintegration of the family causes social ills
We must end government programs like the family-destroying welfare system and sex-education courses that encourage promiscuity. These programs actually hasten the moral breakdown. Our first priority should be restoring the moral and material support for the marriage-based two-parent family. The disintegration of the family is the major contributing factor in poverty, crime, violence, the decline in educational performance, and a host of other expensive social problems.
Source: (Cross-ref from Welfare Reform) www.keyes2000.org/issues/wel Jun 14, 1999
http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Alan_Keyes_Families_+_Children.htm

Alan Keyes on Corporations
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Alan Keyes wants your baby to depend on the non existent kindness of Rich people, and then claims to be against abortion.
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 09:43 AM
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14. Behold this beacon of mainstream republican thought
I'm so glad Keyes was tapped to jump into the ring with Obama. America needs to see the Dorian Gray portrait of the GOP.

I'm starting to look forward to a new idiotic statement from Keyes each day. Today was a lucky day -- Keyes "stepped in it twice" with the GOP by 1-suggesting reparations, and 2-equating abortion to terrorism.

Good times!

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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 07:33 PM
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20. he also sounded
yesterday (or whenever) that he was coming out for affirmative action along with the pro reparations stuff. The social conservatives didn't like either AT ALL. If he keeps this up, the GOP types will go to the Libertarian guy.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 09:57 AM
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15. Wait wait wait. I thought abortion was akin to slavery. I am confused now
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 06:59 PM
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17. We're getting our abominations confused?
Hate when that happens.

I hope to God these debates are on nat'l TV.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 07:38 PM
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21. A woman who has an abortion is like a slaveholder
because both women and slaveowners can kill the fetus/slave. At least that's the way I interpret it. Of course you have to buy into the position that a 2 day old fetus (what, 5 cells) is an unborn child or preborn baby. I got the "unborn, preborn" stuff off the conservative web sites.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 10:11 AM
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16. Keyes is a total wack job
He's making himself part of that illustrious crowd of kooks and nuts, who think we deserved 9/11 because of _________(fill in the blank).
:mad:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 07:17 PM
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18. Mr. Keyes, I don't think it's a coincidence

that on Sept. 11 we were attacked by religious extremists.
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 07:33 PM
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19. Yep
Edited on Tue Aug-17-04 07:35 PM by DaveSZ
The Fundies want the babies to be born first before they carpet bomb them.

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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 07:40 PM
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22. You got that straight
It is funny they are so concerned about the rights of the "preborn" but not the "born" ones they kill in Iraq for the phony Bush war. They are not marching or objecting to the killing going on in Iraq.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 07:47 PM
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23. cavilling sack of week-old haggis
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Keilwerth41 Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 08:12 PM
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24. Well...
If someone really believes that abortion is murdering children, then can you really blame them for being vehemently against it? If murdering two year olds was legal in this country, wouldn't you protest against it even if most people disagreed with you?
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 09:59 PM
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30. Irrelevant
I think drunk driving is a form of terrorism, but if I were running for office and wanted to change the laws, maybe it would be a good idea to be less militant and insultingly alienating. And that's not to mention the *actual* clinic bombing terrorists who get all ooshy at this kind of rhetoric. Fortunately, moderates will be recoil from his as his extremism.
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Keilwerth41 Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 10:06 PM
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32. No Arguments There
Keyes is definitely not the spokesman that the pro-life community needs. He's just too polarizing and he justifies many of the fears that moderates have.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 12:23 AM
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42. Isn't that cute...in another thread you were touting Nader....here your
defending the Pro-Life movement.....earlier I thought you were Nader...now its obvious your ALAN KEYES....

Get Lost you Whacko! Free Republic http://www.freerepublic.com

:hi: bye bye....
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 03:56 PM
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46. If they are against it, they shouldn't have an abortion
But they should stay the f*ck out of my life. Other people have absolutely ZERO right to tell me what LEGAL medical procedure to have.

People who actually think it is alright to kill innocent Iraqi children and pregnant mothers for ZERO reasons should shut up about abortion.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 08:13 PM
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25. Has Keyes ALWAYS been this bat-shit crazy????!!!!
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:25 PM
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40. He's like Shrub without the muzzle
Edited on Tue Aug-17-04 11:26 PM by Doosh
and to think, there are people to the right of Keyes.
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fdr_hst_fan Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 04:44 PM
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49. Yes, he HAS!
I lived in MD for 14 years-he was a nut-case then and it's obvious he hasn't changed, but it's only for political gain! If the Repukes were in favor of high-noon blow-jobs in Macy's window, guess which view Keyes would take?
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 08:32 PM
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27. Karen Hughes must be on the payroll
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 08:43 PM
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28. This man is barking, BARKING mad.
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Geo55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 09:10 PM
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29. Behold !
The black burning "Bush" !
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 10:00 PM
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31. Keyes Is A Freak... A Kook... A Loon
THIS IS THE TRUE FACE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 10:07 PM
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33. "I would ACCEPT the rape and incest exceptions only as a matter of ...
... political necessity if that is the best legislation we could achieve at the time. I see no grounds in principle for making these exceptions, but as a matter of political prudence it would be suicidal for the pro-life movement to reject these people."
Source: (Keyes') Letter to David Quackenbush Jun 30, 1995
http://www.ontheissues.org/Celeb/Alan_Keyes_Abortion.htm

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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 10:09 PM
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34. What Keyes needs is a womb...
...so he can spend the rest of his life barefoot and pregnant.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 10:11 PM
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35. he should know
he's a terror who should have been aborted :evilgrin:

Okay, that was bad; time for mw to go to bed.
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 10:16 PM
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36. You have to admit
that Obama had an excellent comeback. ;-) I just love that little guy!
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 10:18 PM
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Yawn
Keyes needs a new line. This one's getting real old.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 10:20 PM
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38. And so the patriot act can be used against women and

their doctors?

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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-17-04 11:31 PM
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41. We should really stop all of these threads.
Keyes knew when he got into the race that he was picked because nobody else wanted to get beat badly by Obama. So basically, he's running to get a platform and attention for his nutty, extremist, and hateful views.

We really have better things to do than to give it to him, don't we. Please, let's just ignore him, let Obama get his 80% in November (there's bound to be 1/5 of the electorate that would vote for Charles Manson if he were running on the GOP ticket) and let Keyes crawl back under the rock (in Maryland) he came from.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 04:07 PM
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47. I disagree.
No need to curtail this stuff. Every quote of his that we post here is someone's potential talking point.
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 02:30 AM
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43. The noose it getting tighter....n/t
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 03:06 AM
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44. DSCC should focus less on Keyes
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 10:21 AM
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45. Why across US bow, we are not the only abortion allowing country?
The warning I see is one of mental instability Mr. Keyes -- yours.

By your logic, "the evil is the same," your hatred of our freedom is evil the same as their hatred of our freedom thus concluding you as essentially a terrorist.

I don't believe Mr. Keyes is a terrorist, nor the mothers who sadly abort young life.

I do feel Mr. Keyes lacks natural integrity that he probably sold to those willing to pay him for saying things just slightly off, that money reinforcing a new paid-for integrity, that newly redefined integrity that hides part of his heart, a heart he has not fully embraced for years, a heart he will not embrace again until he is in terms of Christians, until he is born again with all his heart, his soul, his mind -- not just the paid-for parts.
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