Pentagon plan for global anti-terror army

[Lori Price CLG]

Pentagon plan for global anti-terror army


The Pentagon has urged Congress to authorise a $700 million package designed to build a global anti-terrorist network of friendly militias.

Deputy Defence Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, a key architect of the Iraq war, told the House Armed Services Committee the money would be used "for training and equipping local security forces - not just armies - to counter terrorism and insurgencies".

If approved as part of a larger defence bill, the package would "provide greater internal security in areas that are or could become sanctuaries for terrorists," he said.

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[BeHereNow]

1. Uh...

THIS IS A REALLY BAD IDEA.
A really BAD idea indeed.
BHN

[Tellurian]

53. I don't know if everyone realizes exactly what this means...

what this means is, The PNAC people realize our own soldiers will not SHOOT AND KILL fellow Americans IF it comes to CIVIL WAR in this country.

They DO KNOW, the 20,000 to 200,000 Independent Contractors they have sequestered in Iraq are Natural Born Killers. These are the same Indy Contractors who have 'cut their teeth' at Abu Graib, torturing and killing Iraqi civilians, and don't have a morality problem following orders from Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush, to do the same here.

All this H.R. does is reinforce the gravity of Bush's resolve to use any means necessary to take over this country to complete his dictatorship 'coup'. He plans to use his own private army to dominate us any way he must, to maintain power, and subjugate the masses, who remember they ARE and Always will be AMERICANS!

[neomonkey]

2. OK, so November is coming

and we are seeing this flurry of insanity spewing from the Capitol, the DOD, etc. Is this supposed to endear them with the electorate? Am I missing something? Will DimS*n be re-elected spouting this bullshit?

The ramifications of this proposal are quite frankly frightening as hell.

[BeHereNow]

4. Add this to the mix

And like me, you won't sleep much tonight-
Excerpt from a bill passed by Porter J. Goss in 2003-
How convenient...
How absolutely terrifying.
BHN

SEC. 332. MODIFICATIONS OF AUTHORITIES ON
EXPLOSIVE MATERIALS.

(a) AUTHORITY TO DISTRIBUTE EXPLOSIVE MATERIALS TO
QUALIFIED ALIENS- Notwithstanding any other provision of law,
it shall be lawful for any person knowingly to distribute
explosive materials to any qualified alien--

(1) if, in the case of a qualified alien described in
subsection (c)(1), the distribution to, shipment to,
transportation to, receipt by, or possession by the alien of
the explosive materials is in furtherance of such
cooperation; or

(2) if, in the case of a qualified alien described in
subsection (c)(2), the distribution to, shipping to,
transporting to, possession by, or receipt by the alien of
explosive materials is in furtherance of the authorized
military purpose.

(b) AUTHORITY FOR QUALIFIED ALIENS TO SHIP EXPLOSIVE
MATERIALS- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, it shall
be lawful for a qualified alien to ship or transport any
explosive in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce or to
receive or possess any explosive which has been shipped or
transported in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce--

(1) if, in the case of a qualified alien described in
subsection (c)(1), the possession, shipment, or
transportation by the alien of the explosive materials is in
furtherance of such cooperation; or

(2) if, in the case of a qualified alien described in
subsection (c)(2), the possession, shipment, or
transportation by the alien of explosive materials is in
furtherance of the authorized military purpose.

(c) QUALIFIED ALIEN DEFINED- In this section, the term
`qualified alien' means an alien--

(1) who is lawfully present in the United States in
cooperation with the Director of Central Intelligence; or

(2) who is a member of a North Atlantic Treaty
Organization (NATO), or other friendly foreign military force
(as determined by the Attorney General with the
concurrence of the Secretary of Defense) who is present
in the United States under military orders for training or
other military purpose authorized by the United States.

[Zhade]

16. And Porter Goss just got named head of the CIA.

The circle is complete.

FUCK.

[lostnfound]

17. What is that bill number, and did any of our favorite Dems vote for it? nt

[psychopomp]

21. Good question

<<<<<Alarm bells>>>>>>>

:wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

[psychopomp]

24. House Rpt.108-163 - INTELLIGENCE AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2004

< http://www.congress.gov/cgi-bin/cpquery/0?&&dbname=cp108&&db_id=cp108&&r_n=hr163.108&&sel=DOC& >

[psychopomp]

33. Can somebody help explain something to me?

As this bill passed the House and Senate I do not see the section listed above included. If I've got it right, of the six versions of this bill, the one below is the one that passed. Where is the section authorizing aliens to secure explosives?
Here is a link to the other five versions:

http://www.congress.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:H.R.2417:

You will find section 332 in both the versions engrossed by the House and the Senate but not in the final version signed by the pRez.

See House Reports section and you will find 332 not included:
http://www.congress.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:HR02417:@@@L&summ2=m&


I like this little gem:

6/25/2003 7:15pm:
H.AMDT.194 Amendment (A004) offered by Mr. Kucinich. (consideration: CR H5894-5900; text: CR H5894-5895)
Amendment sought to require the Inspector General of the Central Intelligence Agency to conduct an audit of all telephone and electronic communications between the Central Intelligence Agency and the Office of the Vice President that relate to weapons of mass destruction obtained or developed by Iraq preceding Operation Iraqi Freedom on or after September 11, 2001.

Thanks Dennis!

[BeHereNow]

40. Check your PM-

I would suspect they slipped it in somewhere else-
I fully intend to research it-
Clearly, from the link Lori proveded on this thread,
the process is underway...which menas, if they did not
slam it through on the final signing of this bill,
they moved it to another.
Let's start with looking at the usual suspects.
BHN

[BeHereNow]

41. While searching I found this-

Blogger from 2003- apparently we are not the
only people who are concerned by that section:
http://phaedo.blogspot.com/2003_06_22_phaedo_archive.html

[Tellurian]

44. Whatever Laws existent or created...NeoCons find a way to pervert the law

for monetary gain..

[tom_paine]

47. The bill has been REMOVED

Your first link is BLANK!

:scared: :tinfoilhat:

[psychopomp]

50. I noticed the first link is broken just a few minutes ago

It was a link to the various iterations of the bill.

edit: I posted the link again after testing it in the "Preview" window before posting. It worked then, but after posting it breaks. A reasonable workaround is to google H.R.2417 and you will find the link second from the top. Hmmph. Gremlins.

Anyhow, it is interesting to see the amendments House Dems tried to tag onto this bill:

4. H.AMDT.194 to H.R.2417 Amendment sought to require the Inspector General of the Central Intelligence Agency to conduct an audit of all telephone and electronic communications between the Central Intelligence Agency and the Office of the Vice President that relate to weapons of mass destruction obtained or developed by Iraq preceding Operation Iraqi Freedom on or after September 11, 2001.
Sponsor: Rep Kucinich, Dennis J. (introduced 6/25/2003) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 6/26/2003 House amendment not agreed to. Status: On agreeing to the Kucinich amendment (A004) Failed by recorded vote: 76 - 347 (Roll no. 319).

5. H.AMDT.195 to H.R.2417 Amendment sought to require a GAO study to determine the extent to which intelligence developed by the Department of Defense and by the intelligence community with respect to weapons of mass destruction obtained or developed by Iraq preceding Operation Iraqi Freedom was made available to the United Nations weapons inspectors and the quantity and quality of the information that was provided (if any).
Sponsor: Rep Lee, Barbara (introduced 6/25/2003) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 6/26/2003 House amendment not agreed to. Status: On agreeing to the Lee amendment (A005) Failed by recorded vote: 185 - 239 (Roll no. 320).

Hats off to Rep Kucinich and Rep Lee!

[BeHereNow]

54. Here is the link to the June 11, 2003 version

http://www.theorator.com/bills108/hr2417.html

I think it is important to study because it
shows their INTENTIONS-
Thankfully, there a few souls in our legislative
branches who are fighting them, but what
is important to discern from the early version is
what they WANT. The extent of power and
lack of public accountability.
Goss is clearly a very dangerous individual
if you read what he intends and what he wanted in this
early version.
I am saving the text because it will probably
be dis-appeared...
BHN:tinfoilhat:

[Tellurian]

43. Here is what you get when you try to access the link:

containing the bill within a bill:

The text of H.R. 2417] has not yet been received from GPO
Bills are generally sent to the Library of Congress from the Government Printing Office a day or two after they are introduced on the floor of the House or Senate. Delays can occur when there are a large number of bills to prepare or when a very large bill has to be printed.


http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query

[psychopomp]

48. Link to pdf

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=108_cong_public_laws&docid=f:publ177.108.pdf

Text version

< http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=108_cong_public_laws&docid=f:publ177.108 >

[Tellurian]

52. Thanks...nt

[sandraj]

18. most of the time lately

I feel like they've forgotten there is an electorate.

[tom_paine]

31. There IS NO Electorate. There are only

the Imperial Subjects of Amerika.

And we Free Americans, trapped behind the Televised Curtain of Imperial Amerika, watching it all go rapidly down the drain.

Just like in 1933, with an American flavor.

May God Help Us All...

[sally343434]

3. Disgusting

What this is is an attempt to get taxpayer funding for a global network of private mercenaries/terrorists. This network will continue to exist after our "regime change," and report secretly to Wolfowitz to terrorize any "non-believers" worldwide, including the US. Think of this as a world-wide "Contras" -- the neo-cons' private army of terrorists.

[BeHereNow]

5. You get the picture all too well-

And guess what, it is now LEGAL-
Our new CIA director suggested it in
his Bill, in 2003, and our representatives
said yes.
We are so screwed folks.

SEC. 503. AUTHORITY FOR INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY
ELEMENTS OF DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE TO AWARD
PERSONAL SERVICE CONTRACTS.

(a) IN GENERAL- Subchapter I of chapter 21 of title 10, United
States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following
new section:

`Sec. 426. Personal services contracts: authority and limitations

`(a) PERSONAL SERVICES- (1) The Secretary of Defense may,
notwithstanding section 3109 of title 5, enter into personal
services contracts in the United States if the personal services
directly support the mission of a defense intelligence
component or counter-intelligence organization.

`(2) The contracting officer for a personal services contract
shall be responsible for ensuring that a personal services
contract is the appropriate vehicle for carrying out the
purpose of the contract.

`(b) DEFINITION- In this section, the term `defense intelligence
component' means a component of the Department of
Defense that is an element of the intelligence community, as
defined in section 3(4) of the National Security Act of 1947 (50
U.S.C. 401a(4)).'.

(b) CLERICAL AMENDMENT- The table of sections at the
beginning of such subchapter is amended by adding at the
end the following new item:

`426. Personal services contracts: authority and limitations.'.

SEC. 504. PROTECTION OF CERTAIN NATIONAL SECURITY
AGENCY PERSONNEL FROM TORT LIABILITY.

Section 11 of the National Security Agency Act of 1959 (50
U.S.C. 402 note) is amended by adding at the end the
following new subsection:

`(d)(1) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, agency
personnel designated by the Director of the National Security
Agency under subsection (a) shall be considered for purposes
of chapter 171 of title 28, United States Code, or any other
provision of law relating to tort liability, to be acting within the
scope of their office or employment when such agency
personnel take reasonable action, which may include the use
of force, to--

`(A) protect an individual in the presence of such agency
personnel from a crime of violence;

`(B) provide immediate assistance to an individual who
has suffered or who is threatened with bodily harm; or

`(C) prevent the escape of any individual whom such
agency personnel reasonably believe to have committed
a crime of violence in the presence of such agency
personnel.

`(2) Paragraph (1) shall not affect the authorities of the
Attorney General under section 2679(d)(1) of title 28, United
States Code.

`(3) In this subsection, the term `crime of violence' has the
meaning given that term in section 16 of title 18, United States
Code.'.

[BeHereNow]

7. Forgot to point out this important detail...

The Mercs are immune from tort liablity,
as declared in the Sec 504.
They have thought of EVERYTHING.
I'm moving to a cave.
Wake me if there is anything left
of the world as we knew it.
BHN

[teryang]

14. Sounds like the gestapo

...personal service contractors to assist in counterintelligence with complete tort immunity?

These people will be immune from legal process for the consequences of the use of force DOMESTICALLY. Very interesting.

How can Congress be so f.....g stupid? Seems like they break their oath to the Constitution at least once a week.

[Valkyrie55]

6. Yeah this seems like a brilliant idea

Let's see...we arm and train a group of friendly (for now) militias and use them as proxies to fight the war on terrorism. Then in the future when they turn against us and begin using their newly acquired knowledge to target us we simply deny we ever trained them. Good grief who comes up with this stuff?

[BeHereNow]

8. Not only arm and train them-

But make it legal for them to operate here.
Read the bill.
Read it.
And remember this-
EVERYTHING HITLER DID WAS LEGAL.
READ what is SAYS.
It is now LAW.

Homeland Security MY ASS.
Explosives for "qualified" aliens
working with the CIA and military?
HERE?
In this country?
We have passed the point of surreal.
It is just plain horrifying at this point.
BHN

[neomonkey]

11. Well it appears the groundwork has been laid, no?

Party is over folks, and we didn't even know we were invited.

[BeHereNow]

12. We are the debris left over

and they intend to haul us to the dump
with the plastic cups and plates
and torch us like the garbage they
consider us.
WE ARE FUCKED.
BHN

[Tight_rope]

37. I totally agree with you....It stinks to high heaven and hell.

[Mokito]

9. Ever wonder what the quadrate of Al Qaeda is?

This shining pearl of idiocy should give you an idea.

[BeHereNow]

10. I don't think it is idiocy... unfortunately

I think it is the BIG RED FLAG that they
are INSANE!
And, that they fully intend to treat any of
us who do not cooperate with the empire
like "insurgents."
The bill also gives Ridge and Ashkkkroft the
ability to decide which among us is financially
linked to supporting the enemy, without
any proof of any evidence, other than their
magic eight balls.
And, therefore, the mercs can come after you and me
now, based on the orders of them madmen who
are bringing them here, arming them and
providing them immunity from law.

"Either you're with us, or we'll unleash the
Globo-cops on ya!" is what it amounts to.
I need a drink. Several actually.
BHN

[nofurylike]

13. Lori Price and CLG always having the courage to speak the hard stuff.

Thank you for the info, Lori Price and others on this thread.


peace

peace.....

[Lori Price CLG]

19. Thank you very much, nofurylike! n/t

[nofurylike]

25. Thank YOU, Lori Price! n/t

[Zhade]

15. Globalized Brownshirts?

It's all happening so fast...

[psychopomp]

20. Globalized CONTRAS

Or, Plan Columbia for every nation on the planet with Muslims..

[saigon68]

22. MERCENARIES GALORE

Imagine BlackWater Industries on VIAGRA No rules what so ever

KILL A COMMIE FOR MOMMY

KILL A RAG HEAD FOR SISTER SUE

[daleo]

23. Pentagon plan for terror anti-global army

Seems like a more appropriate headline.

[Lori Price CLG]

26. Well, at CLG, we have renamed Bush's 'war on terror'...

Bush's 'war of terror.'

LOL, we can only call 'em as we see 'em!

:)-Lori Price

[0rion]

27. Greaaaaat......

I will have such uncontrollable glee and happiness when Kerry is elected and throws all these bums out on the street.

[BeHereNow]

28. What remains to be seen

is whether the murikkkan's allow this kind of
legislation to be enacted...under a Dem or Tali-born-again
preztel-dented-head.
We need to kick the bums in the legislative houses out too.
Dems and Repubs alike
if they are allowing bills like this to be passed and rubberstamping
Wolfowitz and the neocons to continue their FUBAR PNAC plans on the backs
of our military and money.
BHN

[tom_paine]

29. Not much hope there. The Imperial Subjects of Amerika will bow

and lick the boots of their Masters.

I hope I am wrong.

I know I'm right.

[hang a left]

30. I am very slow today.

And I haven't read the bill yet, and I'm gonna probably tomorrow. What I have gotten so far is that they are going to contract out to aliens (earthdwellers)for security and counter-terrorism. Is this the way they have decided to round us all up. They probably have doubts about our own citizens turning on their own. Is that the jist?

[tom_paine]

32. KEEP THIS KICKED!

:kick: :kick:

[psychopomp]

34. KICK

Somebody with more knowledge on this sort of thing help out with post 33.

[psychopomp]

35. KICK

[Tight_rope]

36. I say "HELL NO" to anymore anti-terrorist "BULLSHIT"...wasting money!

[jackieforthedems]

38. Anyone Else Heard About REX 84-FEMA, etc???

Hi, everyone. This is sure weird ( the global anti-terror army stuff ). But has anyone heard about this REX 84-FEMA stuff that's been on the internet for awhile now? Just type in REX 84-FEMA in your search engine and take a peek, and, if it's true and not propaganda, apparently FEMA could suspend the U.S. Constitution if martial law is ever enforced, plus alot of other scary things like: take control over communications, transportation, the banking system, properties, etc... I have always wondered if the color coded alert systems and ( red alert especially ) mean that martial law could be enforced - does anyone know? I've also heard weird stuff about UN military vehicles on various U.S. military bases, etc... I wonder if this new bill may have anything to do with that? It makes one wonder big time. How many know much about the Bush family Hitler connections in WW II and all that NWO stuff - or is it just propaganda, too?

[BeHereNow]

39. Welcome to DU, Jackie4theDs!

Yup, we've been down the rex84 path before,
but it is clearly time for us review the subject.
Plus, there are many new DUers who may not know
about the FEMA connection to all of this,
so...THANKS for bringing it to the table again!
BHN:tinfoilhat:
Note to self: get more foil, you're gonna need it!

[jackieforthedems]

49. Thanks For The Welcome!

Thanks for the welcome! I'm glad to be here! :hi:

[tom_paine]

42. KICK

[tom_paine]

45. KICK

[Domitan]

46. Lo and Behold, the Open Conspiracy!

aka HG Well's story, "The Open Conspiracy"

[Q3JR4]

51. Kick.

[ksatriyakiller]

55. when can i start making my own threads????

when can i start making my own threads????

[renegade000]

56. equipping future enemies....

awesome...