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demdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:02 PM
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Terror threat: We'll kill Madonna
MADONNA has axed three gigs in Israel — after terrorists threatened to kill her and her kids.

---snip---

She first planned to defy the extremists but cancelled after the unnamed Palestinian group mentioned details about Lourdes, seven, and three-year-old Rocco in a series of threatening letters.



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The source added: “It became clear that these people were not messing around — they even knew intimate details like who her personal staff are.

“She thought she was being targeted because of her Jewish Kabbalah religion. But this group were threatening her because she represents many things they hate about the West.”


http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004240450,00.html
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:09 PM
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1. Terrorist threat? Or more Bushit propaganda?
Where's the proof that it was a "terrorist" threat from the ME?
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:58 AM
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24. I vote bushit propaganda.
No way these people give a shit about madonna.
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 03:54 PM
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30. This threat probably came from the Hassidic sect or Orthodox sect of
Jews in Israel. If you want to talk about fundamentalism...they are it. I would think that the Arabs or Muslims would just shrug this off as more western decadance. Why would they want to kill her?
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:10 PM
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2. or publicity stunt designed to mask the real reason for cancelling?
They hate us for our pop singers!

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:47 PM
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5. have you ever seen the Lebanese pop diva??
she`s alot hotter than brittney and alot better singer..saw her on link tv world videos..
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 01:44 AM
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19. Her publicist Liz Rosenberg is probably the "source"
Edited on Mon May-24-04 01:45 AM by rocknation
of both the story and the "intimate details" of her children's lives.

:headbang:
rocknation
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Soup Bean Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:13 PM
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3. Nah. They're just trying win OUR hearts and minds now.
;)

Just having a bit of fun. Don't beat me.
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:00 PM
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10. Good one!
:shrug:
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:16 PM
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4. Madonna
She is reinventing herself again.What her devious PR mind won't come up with to promote herself and camoflage her lack of talent! And she thinks she represents the West to the rest of the world? Talk about delusions of grandeur. She can't deal with the fact she is old news. Now if this were Brittany.....And BTW no one seemed to threaten Whitney Huston In Isreal. Could it be because she has talent? Just a thought.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 09:50 PM
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6. Hello, we have five bla *click* hello?
/Dave Chappelle
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ursacorwin Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 10:10 PM
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7. i can't believe
i'm posting on a mdna thread...but i'm from MI where she & her bro went to school and i've always had a love/hate thing with the girl.

anyone else remember when she had this little 'issue' with her producers and managers back when her album about the war came out? i don't really follow 'pop culture' issues, but iirc i read that she wanted to be more anti-war in her lyrics, etc., but was told to keep quiet. thus, a madonna in israel espousing rights for the pltns would probably not be welcome...by some.

i'm in such a ct mode tonight. it must be the wine.
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 10:26 PM
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9. I thought she was Catholic
not Jewish... And I do remember that business about her changing the lyrics but the way that I remember it she took it upon herself. I don't believe that Madonna has ever let anyone tell her what to do with her music. But then I don't follow her much either so maybe I have it wrong.
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LivingInTheBubble Donating Member (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:04 AM
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26. I thought she was Hindu, or at least trying to be.
But that was probably last years fad.

Next year she will probably convert to islam.
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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 10:15 PM
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8. Everyone's a critic n/t
eom
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:09 PM
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11. Wait a gosh-darned minute!
Madonna is Jewish?

Didn't she have a cross fetish for a while? I seem to remember her wearing big crosses back in the late 80's.

Also, her chosen stage name makes one think of Catholicism.

Well...you learn something new everyday...
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:14 PM
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12. From Italian Catholic to Jewish Caballa... go figure.
That particular form of religion is tres' chic in Hollywood now.. It's the new power religion... I don't know where that leaves Scientology, but I imagine that is still pretty popular.

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montana_hazeleyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 12:20 AM
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15. I always thought Madonna is her real name.
Is it a stage name?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 12:46 AM
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17. Her real name is Madonna Louise Ciccone.
:headbang:
rocknation
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:47 AM
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23. Ahhh...I thought it was just Louise Ciccone
I was under the impression that the Madonna part was added later.

I stand corrected.
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 05:27 AM
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20. religious chic
Edited on Mon May-24-04 05:28 AM by progdonkey
Madonna has dabbled in a few religions in her life. She was born and raised a Catholic (her real name is "Madonna"). A few years ago, she decided to go Hindu, around the time she decided to ditch the Detroit accent for a poor English accent. Funny thing, though, is that during a performance at the MTV Video Music Awards, she was all Hindu-ed up, and she performed a techno-infused chant to Shiva. Unfortunately, the design she had on her forehead was one of devotion to Vishnu.... (Obviously not too observant to realize which god she was praying to!)
After it became obvious she didn't know shit about Hinduism, she decided to join the Kabbalah, which is basically New Age spirituality with the added pretense of being part of an established religion (I know Kabbalah is millenia old, I'm referring to its current appeal...).
Maybe she is sincere in her belief in the Kabbalah, but if her recent history has proven anything, it's that fashion always trumps religion.
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LesTalkMoreDo Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 06:40 AM
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21. Who said she was Jewish?
Does one need to be Jewish to put on a show in Israel? I doubt it.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 07:45 AM
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22. The article
Read it.

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Free_Thinker Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 11:35 PM
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13. centuries of wisdom in every drop
Madonna, just another SUCKER trying magic tricks to stave off old age and the rest of it.

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health_medical/story.jsp?story=523985

You will also need one of those bracelets (said to ward off the Evil Eye of people jealous of your success) for £27, and "holy water" at £2.70 a small bottle which may sound pricey until you learn "there are centuries of wisdom in every drop". Fair enough. And although it is not explicitly stated, the same is probably true of the Blessed Restoring Face Cream available at £78.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 12:09 AM
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14. The Sun is
a tabloid. I don't know how much credance can be given to the Sun. It is even worst than the National Inquirer, a bit like those things you see at the supermarket check-outs.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:09 AM
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27. You don't think she was abducted by aliens?
You don't believe she's an agent for Mossad? Go figure. :eyes:

"The Sun" isn't even decent enough to line bird cages.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 12:43 AM
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16. Congrats, Madonna--you've become the bimbo who cried wolf
Edited on Mon May-24-04 01:08 AM by rocknation
If this had happened to any other performer in the world, I'd take it seriously. But since time and Britney Spears have robbed Madonna of her reason for being, she's taken to pulling off such publicity stunts as advertising for a sperm donor; putting her new music online and publicly threatening to sue the culprits; and self-censoring her anti-war video so she could appear to be supporting Bush AND the troops. Now she's officially made it to the bottom--her word now carries as much weight as Georgie's does.

:headbang:
rocknation
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 01:05 AM
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18. LOL, I am *so sure* Palestinians know all about Madonna's family/staff.
...NOT!! This threat has 'Bush terror team' written *all* over it.
-Lori
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 08:00 AM
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25. thank you, exactly. The palestinians are a wee bit more concerned with
dodging israeli bulldozers than attacking AMERICANS.
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Norton Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 02:15 PM
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28. The cool thing about Madonna
is the mileage she's gotten just from being talked about, positively OR negatively... she would love all of you guys/gals
here today! (Though I'm doubting it will come to her attention.)
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 03:37 PM
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29. Madonna is a terrorist target just like she's
a virgin.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 04:17 PM
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31. if they wanted the Isrealis to suffer they'd let the shows go on n/t
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-04 04:32 PM
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32. I Know there's a DU Rule about Advocating Harm ...
but man, it's getting hard.
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