'I asked for help and warned of this but nobody would listen'

[Tinoire]

'I asked for help and warned of this but nobody would listen'

Saturday May 1, 2004
The Guardian

After an investigation was launched into the alleged abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison, Staff Sergeant Ivan "Chip" Frederick decided to keep a journal to ensure his side of the story would be revealed. The journals seen by the Guardian begin on January 19 2004 and detail the conditions of the prisoners, apparent torture, and the death of one inmate after interrogation.

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· Use of dogs

"MI has encouraged and told us great job that they were now getting positive results and information. CID has been present when the military working dogs were used to intimidate prisoners at MI's request. CID agent told the soldier working 1A to stress one prisoner out as much as possible that he wanted to talk to him the next day. On the 18th Jan 2004 an unruly prisoner with a broken arm. The prisoner was placed in a head lock and choked out in the presence of CID agent team."

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· Death in custody

"Back around Nov an OGA prisoner was brought to 1A. They stressed him out so bad that the man passed away. They put his body in a body bag and packed him in ice for approximately 24 hours in the shower in the 1B. The next day the medics came in and put his body on a stretcher, placed a fake IV in his arm and took him away. This OGA was never processed and therefore never had a number."

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· January 22, 2004

"Dear Mimi,

I am feeling so bad at how the army has come down on me. They always said that shit rolls downhill and guess who is at the bottom? I have asked for help and warned of this and nobody would listen. I told the battalion commander that I didn't like the way it was going and his reply was 'Don't worry about it. I give you permission to do it'.

"I just wish I could talk to someone about what is going on but I was ordered not to talk to anyone besides my attorney and CID. As far as trusting someone, DON'T."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1207452,00.html

[BeHereNow]

1. And "Jesus Wept."

To think that these atrocities are condoned
by so-called x-tains, who believe in their heart of
hearts, that Bush is a man of God.
All I can think of, in light of the fact that
this horrific travesty is supported by the morans
in this country who sadly call themselves "Christians"
is "Jesus wept."
Me too- I am weeping for this inhumanity, especially
since it is done and supported by these false
X-tians in the name of my Lord and Saviour-
Jesus Christ.
I repeat: "Jesus wept."

BHN

On Edit: for the False X-tians who may read this post-
remember Jesus said- "I never knew you..." to his false
church- that just may mean you, if, for one moment
you believe that this invasion and occupation of
Iraq has ANYTHING to do with God's will.

[boobooday]

2. I heard about this one when it happened!

There were stories on the net quoting Iraqi hospital workers who claimed they were there when Americans brought in a prisoner they had killed in exactly the condition described below.

"Back around Nov an OGA prisoner was brought to 1A. They stressed him out so bad that the man passed away. They put his body in a body bag and packed him in ice for approximately 24 hours in the shower in the 1B. The next day the medics came in and put his body on a stretcher, placed a fake IV in his arm and took him away. This OGA was never processed and therefore never had a number."

This is one of the most appalling, among many, stories of this awful war.

http://www.wgoeshome.com

[Eye and Monkey]

3. Chip and Lynndie seems to be smiling a bit broadly in the photos -

I'm not sure that "duress" really describes the look on their faces.

[madrchsod]

4. remember these two scumbags

will be back in the states and people will still think they did a great job...scumbags

[The Magistrate]

5. This Is Damned Vile, Ma'am

It is also damned normal. It is clear these people are being prosecuted not for what they have done, but for photographing it, and allowing those photographs out into public view. Clearly the thing is systematic.

[Eye and Monkey]

7. Systemic. Symptomatic.

Not much related to BushCo is systematic save the lie-and-lie-again.

Nice to see you, too.

[Mikimouse]

6. Now, if I was a vicious RW pundit and Chip was a liberal...

I would be scraming at the top of my radio lungs that he created the diary to further the cause of plausible deniability, and that he really condoned and loved everything he did, just used the diary as a cover-up. See, I can do it too! The only difference is that I wouldn't enjoy doing those types of spin.

[Eye and Monkey]

8. You might add that he now has "a book to promote".

Contract pending.

[Mikimouse]

9. I stand corrected...

you are right, of course. See, I just don't have it in me to do it correctly. I guess I'm just another damned wimpy liberal after all. <sigh>

[opihimoimoi]

10. A very Sad Chapter to this insane war/occupation

Bush, the War President, defeated the Republican Guard, Iraqi Army, captured Saddam.

But the Plan for Peace? Where? It seems his focus is on the War side, not the Peace side. Result, doesn't know how to wage Peace.

Now, we are the bad guys.....this is sad and was avoidable.

edit:
Waging Peace is far more complicated and difficult but so much more rewarding. Alas, our Prez is ignorant of this.

[Mikimouse]

11. You are SO right opi!

it really is heartrending.

[Kool Kitty]

12. Bless your heart,

you wimpy liberal. :loveya: May there be a zillion more like you.

[Mikimouse]

13. And the very same to you!

I think there probably are a zillion or so, and at least the best ones are here! (I don't count myself into that 'best' group though, I'm still not one of the 'group'):loveya: and I'll raise you a :toast:

[Moderator]

14. dupe

Good additional info, would go well in the other thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x520197