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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 11:26 PM
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Obama Calls Waterboarding 'Torture' At APEC News Conference
Source: Huffington Post

Obama Calls Waterboarding 'Torture' At APEC News Conference

KAPOLEI, Hawaii -- President Barack Obama says the interrogation technique known as waterboarding constitutes torturing, disputing Republican presidential candidates who say they would reinstate the practice.

Obama called waterboarding "torture" and said it was "contrary to America's traditions" during a news conference at the Asian-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit.

Republicans Herman Cain and Michele Bachmann said during a Republican debate on Saturday that they would reinstate the technique that former President George W. Bush authorized and Obama banned.

The practice simulates drowning and is viewed as torture by many.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/13/obama-calls-waterboarding_0_n_1091711.html
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xocet Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 11:29 PM
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1. It seems as if the status of waterboarding will be decided in the next election unless someone
wants to get busy and prosecute some war criminals before the election....
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 11:35 PM
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2. 'contrary to American traditions' - what about contrary to American law ? n/t
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Towlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 11:10 AM
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22. Here's your tradition: The United States executed Japanese soldiers for waterboarding.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 11:52 PM
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3. So, where are those warrants for the Bush and his team?
Edited on Sun Nov-13-11 11:53 PM by sakabatou
Oh yeah... I'm too optimistic.
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teddy51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 11:59 PM
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5. I agree with you, and so does Bobthedrummer. n/t
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 08:23 AM
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12. It's water under the bridge...
...of the nose.


Where are the prosecutions?
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teddy51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-11 11:58 PM
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4. Water Boarding has always been torture (since WW11 anyay) and I am happy
that President Obama has come out in support of this. Crap, we put to death some Japanese for this very thing after the war.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 12:18 AM
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6. And where are the torturers? Forgot the law does not apply to them :( n/t
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kas125 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 12:39 AM
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7. Unless he orders his justice department to arrest and prosecute
the torturers, he's protecting them and it makes me sick.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 01:02 AM
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8. Empty words unless it goes to court
I say "unless", because so far there is no sign it is "until".

If the justice department peruses this, if someone goes to jail, there is precedent. Unless that happens, a presidents opinion means nothing on this topic, because the next one may feel differently(whether that's 1 year or 5 years off).
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kimsarah Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 01:09 AM
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9. Correction
Big O wasn't talking about waterboarding, he was referring to his first three years in office.
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azul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 01:16 AM
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10. Admission of guilt?
Obligation to investigate and prosecute torture. Failure to do so would make someone complicit.

Or time for action, finally?
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on point Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 06:04 AM
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11. "therefore I have directed the Bush, Cheney and others be prosecuted" - Obama MIA
More Obama words, but NO meaningful actiion.

GET OFF THE WRONG TRACK, GET ON THE 99% Track
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bigworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 08:28 AM
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13. My response to the R candidates: so it is OK if a foreign country waterboards our captured soldiers?
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 09:37 AM
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14. Oooh, we should ask them that question.
It will never be asked, but it should be.

:patriot:
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 11:08 AM
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15. Obama Says GOP Candidates Are Wrong, Waterboarding is ‘Torture’
Edited on Mon Nov-14-11 11:04 AM by Turborama
Source: ABC

ABC News’ Mary Bruce and Jon Garcia Report:

President Obama said today that Republican presidential candidates are “wrong” to defend the practice of waterboarding, which he said is torture.

“Waterboarding is torture. It’s contrary to America’s traditions, it’s contrary to our ideals, it’s not who we are, it’s not how we operate,” Obama told reporters at a press conference of the interrogation technique.

Republican Presidential candidates Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain said in a debate Saturday night that they would support the renewed use of waterboarding.

“They’re wrong,” Obama said today. “We did the right thing by ending that practice.”

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/obama-says-gop-candidates-are-wrong-waterboarding-is-torture/
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 11:08 AM
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16. I will believe that when he prosecutes those responsible for it
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 11:08 AM
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17. Can we indict Bush junior now?
Or is that just dwelling on the past? And not too important? Too bad that Goring and those guys weren' lucky enough to live in the USA.
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 11:08 AM
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18. And he's absolutely correct. n/t
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 11:08 AM
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19. Good. That's exactly what it is.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 11:08 AM
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20. At least we got that much from Obama. This should have been stated 3 years ago.
Edited on Mon Nov-14-11 11:06 AM by RC
Now, as other have posted, if we would only do the correct thing and prosecute the war crimes committed under bu$h.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-11 11:08 AM
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21. It's not torture if you don't look backward, it's forgotten.
By not prosecuting the war criminals responsible for this, the Obama Administration turned a criminal issue into a political one, giving the likes of Cain, Bachmann and any future potential war criminal the courage and perceived credibility to actually run on re-instituting the policy.

Thanks for the thread, Turborama.
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