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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:23 AM
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Record poppy crop makes mockery of Afghanistan's 'jihad' on opium
from The Independent
Don't ever forget that Dyn Corp supports and guards the President of Afghanistan, Karzai.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:37 AM
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1. reminds me of panama
Edited on Sun Apr-18-04 06:38 AM by NuttyFluffers
how we went to stop noriega's drug cartel ways... and really drugs were slowly decreasing under his leadership. and when he was removed the drug flow through panama *doubled* within a month.

us gov't: you are now liberated from the evils of drugs (psst -grow more now!), yes, no more drugs here...

sometimes you are left to question, no?
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 08:43 AM
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7. I've heard this and don't doubt it, but
do you have a source?

Welcome to DU

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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 06:39 AM
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2. Yep, with Dyn Corp providing services to the President of Afghanistan
you can expect an increase in junkies worldwide, more crime, etc. more need for mercenaries that pay out a lot in the form of campaign contributions to get awarded a contract from the administration of George W. Bush aka The War President :grr:

BFEE is real, they even use mercenaries to oversee their interest$$$.
They are harmful to the national security of The United States of America, imo.

Campaign Contributions of Post-War Contractors
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:01 AM
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3. Of course Dyn Corp smack is often needed to combat the extra-pyramidal
effects of their smallpox and anthrax vaccines that have harmed so many US military and their families-that stuff is poison, and, no WMD to boot-like was known by most of the world.

But for some unknown reason Dyn Corp had the juice to get Mary Robinson (an independent woman and former Irish President) fired from her job as UNHRC head when she refused to back off her righteous pursuit of Dyn Corp employees involved in sexual slavery of kids-think about that for just a moment.

All of these things happen in the underground black economy of organized crime, a big political donor through mercenaries like Dyn Corp.
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porkrind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:38 AM
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4. Iran Contra
Remember Iran Contra, in which the Reagan administration sold drugs to incite war?

Makes you wonder if the current * administration is selling Opium to fund dirty black projects?

:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:47 AM
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5. Not only did Allen Dulles use Nazis in the CIA but they were already in
business with the Mafia via Lucky Luiciano and OSS history of co-operation for labor peace on docks :puke: :grr:
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 07:48 AM
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6. What?
On top of how many billions of dollars they've nabbed from the treasury?
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:55 AM
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8. Rush Limbaugh -- official sponsor of ..

..this year's opium crop. Rush finally decided, "hey, why go for the synthetic heroine when you can get the real thing!"
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-04 09:58 AM
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9. Remind me again who was head of the CIA during Vietnam
when the CIA was packing the coffins of dead soldiers with heroin?


A Nation Betrayed
The following is a transcript of the video, "A NATION BETRAYED". It documents alleged CIA involvement in covert drug running activities. It was originally transcribed by Jim Burnes and has been reposted primarily by John Dinardo.

Lieutenant Colonel James 'Bo' Gritz is the most decorated Green Beret commander of the Vietnam Era. General William Westmoreland, in writing his memoirs, singled out Bo Gritz as the "American Soldier" for his exemplary courage in combat and outstanding ingenuity in recovering a highly secret black-box the Vietcong had taken from a crashed U2 spy plane. The feature films Rambo, Uncommon Valor and Missing in Action were based in part upon his real-life military experiences.

What I want to tell you very quickly is something that I feel is more heinous than the Bataan death march. Certainly it is of more concern to you as Americans than the Watergate. What I'm talking about is something we found out in Burma - May 1987. We found it out from a man named Khun Sa. He is the recognized overlord of heroin in the world.

Last year he sent 900 tons of opiates and heroin into the free world. This year it will be 1200 tons.

On video tape he said to us something that was most astounding: that US government officials have been and are now his biggest customers, and have been for the last twenty years.

We've been embracing organized crime. Now you've all looked and heard about Ollie North, about the Contras, about nobody knowing anything.

The general offered to stop the flow of opium and heroin into the free world. He was told by White House officials, "Bo, there's no one here that supports that." His reply, "What? Vice-President Bush has been appointed by president Reagan as the Number One policeman to control drug entry into the United States. How can you say there's no interest and no support when we bring back a video tape with a direct interview with a man who puts 900 tons of opium and heroin across into the free world every year and is willing to stop it?" And they said, "Bo, what can I tell you?"

"All I can say is there is no interest in doing that here."



William Colby

This former CIA director disappeared in an apparent boating accident, and a body was later discovered (minus the life jacket Colby's friends insisted he always wore while boating) and buried promptly. John DeCamp, a lawyer from Lincoln, Nebraska, and Colby's close friend and confidant, said Colby's death was not an accident. He stated that Colby was prepared to disclose that missing P.O.W.'s were working for a dope smuggling operation orchestrated by General Colin Powell, Pentagon official Richard Armitage, and George H. W. Bush.

Bush: Afghanistan now a vital national interest

The Global US Government Drugs Scene

"US President George W Bush has decided to waive sanctions against Afghanistan despite acknowledging its failure to tackle illegal drugs....... Of the 23 nations on the US drugs blacklist, all but Afghanistan, Haiti and Burma were removed this year on the grounds that they were meeting anti-drugs standards. But President Bush also waived anti-drugs sanctions against Haiti in view of its extreme poverty."
US drops Afghan drug sanctions
BBC Online, 25 February, 2002

"After his appointment in 1981, Armitage began working in Southeast Asia to track down reports of MIAs <'Missing In Action' soldiers> in Viet-Nam; Perot suspected him of not doing enough. Last October, Perot met with Armitage at the Pentagon and bluntly demanded that he resign. Perot's stated reason was that Armitage had written, on Pentagon stationery, a glowing character reference for a Vietnamese woman refugee, Nguyet Thi O'Rourke, who had been convicted of running a gambling operation in Virginia. Armitage later conceded that using Pentagon stationery had been 'dumb', but not illegal or improper. At the meeting, Armitage vigorously denied any implication that he had anything to do with an illicit arms or drug network, Perot then took his case to George Bush . The Vice President's office has confirmed that Perot raised 'what he considered to be evidence of wrongdoing ' by Armitage. Bush told Perot to go to the 'proper authorities.' So the billionaire called on FBI Director William Webster. Perot has also made at least one visit to the White House carrying a pile of documents. Yet he has received no support from the Reagan Administration. In fact, National Security Adviser Frank Carlucci in January called him in to ask him to stop pursuing Armitage....."
Time Magazine, 3 May 1987,10987,110187...


"Michael J. Hand, a Vietnam war hero and later a CIA agent in Asia, disappeared after his founding-partner of the Australian Nugan-Hand Bank was found dead. Four Australian government investigations produced voluminous reports that do little to clear up the mystery of a financial operation said to have become a 'giant theft machine.' Some of the Iran-Contra hearing's characters came under scrutiny: Gen. Richard Secord, the CIA's Tom Clines and Ted Shackley .... That's why the Australian Royal Commission of Inquiry began its work after former U.S. government officials shredded Nugan-Hand records when the bank failed seven years ago. ....The bank laundered money from the Southeast Asian drug trade. Profits bought arms to be sold to the world's trouble spots... Former chief of special operations for the U.S. Air Force, Fletcher Prouty, says it began when drugs were used to pay anti-Japanese tribesmen in World war II. Out of this sprang a drug trade that then became the means by which U.S. run guerrillas fought the secret wars of Indochina. This drug trade, he states, was the reason for starting the Nugan Hand Bank and 'Michael Hand worked out of my office before going to Indochina'....The men who perfected the guns-for-dope traffic moved to the Middle East as experts in the sale of sophisticated arms, protected by officials at the top in the Pentagon and CIA. Richard Armitage, now the key Pentagon official in counter-terror and covert operations is named consistently by investigators as the man who helped the drug warlords market their crops. Gen. Khun Sa, who governs the Shan territory of Upper Burma with an army that dominates the infamous Golden Triangle, the world's biggest single source of dope, testified recently that U.S. officials facilitated his business running funds through the Australian bank with Armitage's help.... Daily News Digest reports, 'There is an enormous amount of coroborative material being sent to our office nearly every day. It supports the conclusion that a formal or informal organization of high CIA and military officers, some former, some present, exists which has for decades been a major, if not the major importer of heroin and cocaine into the U.S.' The most prominent name recurring in this connection is Vice President George Bush. While he was CIA director, much of these activities blossomed, but more serious charges are being made by former intelligence officers who believe passionately in the need for a powerful secret intelligence capability but who fear that their institutions have been corrupted by a few self-proclaimed patriots."
Toronto Sun, 13 August 1987

More here:


Halliburton Corporation's Brown and Root is one of the major components of THE BUSH-CHENEY DRUG EMPIRE


Wednesday, November 19, 2003 |Listen> D'load
Special Archive Edition of Flashpoints: Program from the Pacifica Archives: Contras/Cocaine/CIA. A look back on a 'conspiracy theory' that was unfortunately all too true during the Reagan/Bush years.

For nearly four decades US Government Agencies, most notably the CIA have collaborated with major narco traffickers in pursuit of certain covert operations that could not be funded through more traditional means.

During the late 60's, the early 70's and during the height of Vietnam War, there were troubling revelations about the relationship between the CIA and Golden Triangle traffickers. US narcotics enforcement agents were shocked to learn about narcotics rings that were for instance importing heroin in the coffins of dead GIs. Typically US Government Agencies constructed a marriage of convenience with traffickers. Starting with an interview with Alfred McCoy, author of The Politics of Heroin. who states that the attempts at interdiction only strengthens a global interlocking trafficking network resulting always in a steady increase of both supply and demand.

This global expansion of drug trafficking steadly grew through the 1970's. In the early 1980's with Ronald Reagan presiding over this country, his wife Nancy began the second official drug campaign with her "Just Say NO" campaign. While Nancy was fighting the evils of drugs, her husband and his government was enlisting covert operators like Oliver North who piggybacked the Contra Operation on narcotic operations by the Columbian Cartel.

Iran Contragate, covered in depth by KPFA and Pacifica throughout the hearings.
Secret Covert Operations - Plausible Deniability - Presidential Disassociation . CIA supplying the pipeline for the LA cocaine and crack epidemic and the San Jose Meccury News reporter Gary Webb . Ref: Dark Alliance, by Gary Webb

Plenty more here:

And then... people want us to vilify Independents who say this system must change & embrace the people who voted to empower 2 men as evil as Reagan and Bush? Sorry if I cannot vilify those who want change & sorry if I refuse to embrace unrepentant voters who supported Reagan & Bush and now propose to dictate their "wisdom" on the Democratic party.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 08:05 AM
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10. Thanks Tinoire, as always good stuff
Edited on Mon Apr-19-04 08:06 AM by seemslikeadream

According to the US Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) Afghanistan produced more than 70% of the world's opium in 2000, and about 80% of the opiate products in Europe.

Government estimate for opium poppy cultivation in Afghanistan shows that approximately 61,000 hectares of poppy were cultivated during the crop season in 2003 compared with 30,750 in 2002. Current cultivation levels equate to potential production of 2,865 metric tons of opium, an increase of 1,587 metric tons over the 2002 level.

According to the ODCP, the "challenging security situation" in Afghanistan has complicated the task of fighting a war against drugs and war on terrorism at the same time. As the terrorists lose ground, the opium poppy growers win, and much of the money from Afghanistan's opium sales goes right back to the terrorists.

Afghanistan's opium poppy crop skyrockets
by AP Sunday April 04, 2004 at 03:05 PM

Those within the US Defense apparatus that are funded through the sales of illegal weapons and drugs rejoice.

Afghanistan's opium poppy crop skyrockets
Associated Press

WASHINGTON - Afghanistan's opium poppy cultivation has soared, and this year's harvest could be twice as large as last year's near-record crop unless eradication efforts are stepped-up immediately, a State Department official said Thursday.

The heroin business is "almost definitely" filling the coffers of the Taliban and Hizb-I Islami Gulbuddin, another Afghan extremist group linked to Osama bin Laden, and "possibly" enriching al-Qaida fighters as well, said Robert L. Charles, assistant secretary of State for international narcotics and law enforcement affairs.

In rare but carefully muted criticism of America's top ally, Charles said British authorities had not done enough to eradicate poppies in their sector in southern Afghanistan. He warned that failure to stop the bumper harvest, which has already begun in some areas due to unusually warm weather, would have devastating consequences not only for the global drug trade but also for Afghan democracy.

"This is crunch time in Afghanistan," Charles told a congressional panel. "The first crop is coming very rapidly. ... We will pay a price later if we don't act right now."

The Department of Defense also must do more to crack down on drug production in Afghanistan, said Rep. Mark E. Souder, R-Ind., chairman of the Criminal Justice, Drug Policy and Human Resources Subcommittee of the House Government Reform Committee.

"The American people aren't pouring billions of dollars into Afghanistan to watch it turn into a heroin poppy nation ... and an undemocratic narco terrorist-controlled state," Souder said.
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 12:49 PM
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22. kick for Tinoire's excellent post. ....n/t
TYY :kick:
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 08:21 AM
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11. Didn't the Bush* government give this region 43 million... a 'reward' for their efforts in the 'war on drugs'? I realize this was called 'humanitarian aid'...but has anyone actually made an accounting of where the money went?
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:24 AM
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14. Large cash transactions, pallets of freshly minted then shrink-wrapped
US currency, perhaps removed from the stock on hand from inside of Mt. Pony- Culpepper, VA.'s Federal Reserve Communications and Records Center.
Flown on black ops aircraft. All paid for by our taxes as directed by the administration of George W. Bush aka The War President.

It's time to declassify other documents, now.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:05 AM
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12. They grow poppies because they love freedom so it is ok.
Not at all like those freedom hating jihadists in Eyerack.
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montana_hazeleyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 11:22 AM
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13. Please! No more poppys!
The one we have here is bad enough!
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 12:05 PM
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15. When Atta and others began training in Florida, the financier of his
flight school was found to have 43 pounds of heroin in his Lear jet. The DEA didn't charge him or the pilot, just the two unlucky Venezulan passengers, though the plane's records showed dozens of milkruns from Florida to South America and up to NYC to deliver the goods, and the passengers always paid in cash.

Here's a good rule of thumb: if you suspect black ops, sniff out the drug connection.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 12:30 PM
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16. That would be former Green Bay resident Wally Hilliard, Minstrel Boy.
Edited on Mon Apr-19-04 12:34 PM by bobthedrummer
I've been living in Green Bay since 1988. Earned my BA at UWGB in May 1992. The Hilliard family is big on support of the UW system. The Hilliard family, like the Bradley's of Milwaukee support PNAC too.

Wally Hilliard made the money used to invest in aviation companies through his leadership of American Medical Security/AMS which grew to over $1bn in premiums in 32 states.

Wally Hilliard is friends with both Rudi Dekkers and Arne Kruithof.
Wally Hilliard was the owner of that Discover Air plane that the DEA busted for 43#'s of heroin.
Wally Hilliard also owned Vision Aire and the flight school in Florida Huffman Aviation where many of the Saudi hijackers trained.

Btw, on April 2nd, 2001 there was a fatal crash of a jet into a building here in Green Bay, the fire raged for days at the Morning Glory Dairy plant hit by a jet aircraft that had just taken off from Austin Straubel International Airport. I always wondered who owned that plane, and where the pilot was from.

If any other DUer is interested about that fatal jet crash of 4-2-2001 in Green Bay, former home of Wallace J. Hilliard-spook-- they might find out more by calling Chicago FAA Public Affairs @ (847) 294-7427.

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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 12:40 PM
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17. Read Hopsicker's Welcome to Terrorland over the weekend.
Anyone who still doubts there's a 9/11 conspiracy need look no further than Venice, Florida. It stinks down there, and it smells like CIA/drugs/BCCI.

Here's a thread from yesterday about Atta, Hilliard, Dekkers et al:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 12:53 PM
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18. It's not called MIAMI STATION for nothing-and it's BFEE dominated.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 01:00 PM
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19. And that reminds me that the last I had heard about the anthrax invest-
Edited on Mon Apr-19-04 01:02 PM by bobthedrummer
igation was that the anthrax came from Ames strain spores, was weaponized by the US Army and intened for the end use of the CIA, right?

Jerome Hauer's territory, Tommy Thompson hired Mr. Hauer from SAIC on 9-10-2001. They promoted the use of Cipro BEFORE the anthrax attacks, Tommy Thompson stood around bragging of his negotiating skills with former I.G. Farben company Bayer- a deal for 300 million doses of Cipro--while innocent US Postal Service workers were infected in a hot-zone!

That's it-LIHOP. Treasonous LIHOP!
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 01:05 PM
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21. And speaking of Bayer,
did you know in the mid-90s Atta was part of an elite US-German exchange program, sponsored by the likes of David Rockefeller and Henry Kissinger, named after Carl Duisberg, a chemist and industrialist who headed Bayer in the 1920s?
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-04 01:01 PM
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20. You know why Florida is a favourite of smugglers, spooks and
terrorists? Because it's so close to the United States.

Things haven't been right down there since JM/WAVE set up shop. At least.

Odd, eh, how neither the stolen election nor 9/11 would have happened without a Florida connection? And where was George the morning of the 11th?

And let's never forget, Jeb's both BFEE and PNAC.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 01:25 PM
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23. Drugs/Guns trade in Italy between Mafia and Islamic terrrorists
It's the same old game. And what's the missing link that binds terrorist networks and organized crime? Hint: three letters, starts with C, ends with A.

Islamic terrorists linked to Italy Mafia group

ROME, April 19 (Reuters) - Italian investigators have found a link between Islamic terrorist groups and the Camorra, one of Italy's main organised crime groups, a top anti-Mafia investigator said on Monday.

"We have evidence that groups of the Camorra are implicated in an exchange of weapons for drugs with terrorist groups," Pierluigi Vigna, Italy's national anti-mafia prosecutor, told reporters at the foreign press club.

Asked what kind of terrorist groups, he said: "Islamic terrorist groups."

Vigna, whose Rome-based office coordinates the work of magistrates investigating organised crime in Italy, said he could not give more details.
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maxwall Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 01:33 PM
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24. ....mmmmm....
Looks like the BFEE will make even more record profits this year... :eyes:
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