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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:16 AM
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Justice Prosser was asked to get help for anger, sources say-Bradley made request after clash with P
Source: Journal Sentinal

Justice Prosser was asked to get help for anger, sources say
Bradley made request after clash with Prosser
By Patrick Marley and Emma Roller of the Journal Sentinel


Madison - Supreme Court Justice Ann Walsh Bradley asked Justice David Prosser to seek therapy to manage his anger two days after she says he put his hands around her neck, but he declined to do so, according to sources familiar with the situation.

The request came June 15, when all the justices met with Capitol Police Chief Charles Tubbs to discuss the June 13 altercation between Prosser and Bradley. At least some of Prosser's fellow conservatives on the court said it would be ridiculous for him to take such courses, the sources said.

...............

Prosser has not hired an attorney, but a spokesman for him held out the possibility he would.

"He has not contracted with an attorney yet, but he plans to fully defend himself," Prosser spokesman Brian Nemoir said. "He'll do whatever is necessary to make sure he's properly represented."




Read more: http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/124685154.html
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:31 AM
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1. The RW Prosser fans are in full swing in the comment section.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:37 AM
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6. i used to post at the madison paper but....
to many dumb ass idiots who spouted the latest talking points. these people really can`t think for themselves can they...
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 11:56 AM
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24. And just to add...
A regular poster in a nice, LIBERAL blog that I read, was banned from the main paper in Minneapolis, for calling Palin "Crazy Sarah" and "Wacky Sarah"...all the while others constantly and consistently say "Obummer", "OBAMMMMA", "ObummerCare" and the like.

Personally, I was banned from The Huffington Post for posting the same AND asking why the HP would have 4-6 Palin/Palin family articles on their front page, every day. I could have simply created a new handle, etc. BUT...if HP wants to promote the Wingers, let them...I will never even load their site again.

I was told that I had a "thing" about Palin and the Right wing.

Damn straight I've got a "thing" about the destruction of life as we know it in our great America.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 12:48 PM
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28. huffington is limiting bloggers to 600-800 words
two education blogger from chicago quit posting on huffington because of this new rule. one of the blogger is bill ayers. there`s no doubt the huffington folks did`t want him to criticize duncan and his boss obama. the other blogger isn`t well known but an equal to ayers.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:32 AM
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2. 'Anger management???!!!' . I don't need no f---ing anger management!!!!!'
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Rosa Menti Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 11:05 AM
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22. Republicans
consider their anger/violence to be proof of their "principled stance". Never mind the victims experience of this "principled stance". Prosser is a man living in extreme bad faith and looks to be headed for the skids...
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:34 AM
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3. Republicon tantrums are sooo toxic
They really do need a massive soul flush...
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:34 AM
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4. The he-said, she-said on this may never be resolved.
Really sick shit.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:36 AM
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5. It SHOULD be resolved since all justices were present except one
So there were credible witnesses, except for the R witnesses who we can expect to lie through their teeth :evilgrin:
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:41 AM
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7. Optimism is misplaced, IMO. If D's say one thing, and R's say another it's he-said, she-said.
Edited on Wed Jun-29-11 08:53 AM by robcon
Defining the issue as the R's are lying will not change anyone's mind, except those who are already convinced they know what happened.

A consensus of what happened has not emerged, IMO.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 10:40 AM
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19. More like they said, they said
it's pretty certain an incident occurred.

No one can say what has been said to investigators at this time.

But, if the members of the court remain unable to speak honestly and definitively about the event it will be ruinous for the public's trust of an institution that rests entirely on the integrity of the justices.

A decision to sweep this under the rug is a decision that will undermine the court.
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lobodons Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:42 AM
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15. Lie Detector tests should be given
A failed test and you resign. Either side.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 11:54 AM
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23. Other justices witnessed it, & even if they were all Republicans, "hands around her neck"
can't be prettied up or justified in any way. It is what it is: Wrong.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:43 AM
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8. Prosser in action
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HelenWheels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:45 AM
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9. Big problem finding non-partisan people
I don't think there are any in WI. The sheriff who was assigned the task of reviewing this backed out as he is a Dem who backed Prosser's opponent. This was a big mistake by the sheriff as it leaves the investigation open to a Repuke and you can bet they won't back out. If this ends up going to the Supreme Court the Repukes on the Court will back Prosser and then Bradley is toast.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:55 AM
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10. The guy definitely needs some serious therapy
Normal people, even if they are right-wing assholes, don't put their hands around a co-worker's neck. I think he needs a lot more than "anger management".
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:55 AM
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18. Grab a couple of psychiatrists - quick!
If he has more than anger management issues, and it poses a risk to himself or other people, then an involuntary stay in a psychiatric ward may be of benefit.

That said, I haven't met the guy, I don't know him, and I don't know the state of his mental faculties. Brilliant people do have mental health issues too. Some deny it, some recognize it and seek assistance. With Justice Prosser, I cannot say one way or another - but as I posted elsewhere he should at least TAKE the anger management class - and I would even dare say the victim in the case should too for the mere sake of being able to spot the signs of anger in other people and how to handle their anger situations.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 10:58 AM
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21. Of course it is difficult to judge someone
that we know so little about, but I sincerely hope this isn't just swept under the rug, as I can't see the problem going away on its own. Meanwhile, someone could get seriously hurt.

For all we know, it may not even be a psychological issue. It could be physical - brain tumor or reaction to a medication.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:56 AM
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11. Hill/Thomas rerun.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:08 AM
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13. No. In this case, the parties involved are equals, there were witnesses,
and the man accused is known for angry outbursts. This is a far cry from a stereotypical "he said, she said" case.
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 11:58 AM
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25. Ditto...and brings back sickening memories. Nt.
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Yon_Yonson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 08:59 AM
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12. Judge Prosser of the WI State Kangaroo Court has Anger Management issues
... probably spends to much alone time with his mommy! Prosser has been in politics and a state employee since 1979 and it took them 32 years this discover he has an angry problem? If that be true then GAW help us all. Why wasn’t this dysfunctional character trait hammered upon during the recent Kloppenburg/Prosser race. Kloppenburg campaign could have nailed his sorry arse to the wall.
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JJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:41 AM
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14. Does the WI prision system offer anger mgt?
First stop for Justice Prosser should be prison.
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:44 AM
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16. Why NOT take anger management courses... even if there is no "anger problem" ???
If Justice Prosser states that he doesn't have an anger problem, an anger management class can still help him, even if it is to affirm the right way and wrong way to deal with an angry individual.

I have been to a few anger management sessions myself and it is very enlightening. Anger isn't always expressed outwardly. My problem was inward anger - and it's not solved by any means but I know the signs and know what to do when I feel angry.

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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 09:53 AM
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17. a$$hole. You choked a person....IN FRONT OF WITNESSES!
what is there to defend?! Are you actually going to argue that you were provoked?!!! There is NO defense for assault and battery! You are SUPPOSED to be a an officer of the court, not a hot headed, impulse-control impaired street thug.

I'm dying to see/hear what his 'defense' is going to be in this...... 'she made me do it.', 'the devil made me do it', or my kids' favorite, 'if she had done what I told her to do I wouldn't have had to choke her.' defense.....all of which are garbage.

Throw the ba$tard in jail already and replace his worthless a$$ on the bench.
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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 11:59 AM
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26. allegedly
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 12:48 PM
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27. you're right. all the alleged witnesses concurred....including the victim.
Edited on Wed Jun-29-11 12:48 PM by ladywnch
who you gonna believe.....me........or your lying eyes! LMAO
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 01:27 PM
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30. All the alleged witnesses concurred?
That's not how it has been reported. Two of the three implied that she was the agressor and quoted one justices as telling her that she was not choked.

We obviously don't know the truth at this point, but it's a stretch to say that everyone agreed that he was choking her.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 01:06 PM
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29. Probably, "It's all political."
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-11 10:43 AM
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20. He's not angry he's just acting like your typical garden variety...
Nazi judge.
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