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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 08:47 PM
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Fallujah: ghost town where scared residents bury their dead in their yards
http://www.reliefweb.int/w/rwb.nsf/480fa8736b88bbc3c12564f6004c8ad5/0b3694b7d1beafc1c1256e73006baf82?OpenDocument


Source: Agence France-Presse
Date: 11 Apr 2004

BAGHDAD, April 11 (AFP) - The battled-scarred Sunni bastion of Fallujah west of here became a ghost town where frightened residents lived like rats, fearing to venture out, and many were forced to bury their dead in their yards.

Refugees from the city described the days of fear before the ceasefire which was scheduled to come into force Sunday. With US marines locked in nasty street fighting with wily rebels, residents were trapped indoors, a stadium has been transformed into a graveyard and bodies littering the streets are hastily moved in blankets.

"As soon as the Americans see a group of people in the streets, they shoot at them, people venture out only if their homes risk being bombarded or if they must carry the dead or wounded to the city's clinics," said Abbas Ibrahim, a 30-year-old Fallujah resident who was able to escape the city Friday.

"They put them in blankets and dart through the streets."

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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 08:51 PM
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1. their blood are on our hands....
:cry:
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sspiderjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 08:54 PM
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2. How do you justify this kind of massacre? This is awful!
We've seen so many reports like this -- they can't all be lying. Even our own news admits nearly 600 dead Iraqi's in Fallujah, including women and children. I don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight -- these are MY tax dollars at work. I am sick, just sick.
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 08:57 PM
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4. Aid agencies concerned over medical supplies in Fallujah (UN - 9 April)
http://www.reliefweb.int/w/rwb.nsf/480fa8736b88bbc3c12564f6004c8ad5/9a3e64ed8ceb800a49256e7400022505?OpenDocument

ANKARA, 9 April (IRIN) - Aid agencies have expressed deep concern over medical help available to the injured following an escalation in violence in Iraq, particularly in the city of Fallujah, some 50 km west from the capital, Baghdad.

"There is only one hospital in Fallujah and up until yesterday it was not accessible and there were a great number of casualties, but we don't know what the situation is now," a spokeswoman for the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), Nada Doumani, told IRIN on Friday from the Jordanian capital, Amman.

Fighting between Coalition forces and armed groups opposed to them has led to the deaths of dozens of civilians in cities including Baghdad, Fallujah and Ramadi, northwest of the capital and Amara, Karbala, Kut and Nasiriyah in the south.

According to reports, at least 200 Iraqis and over 30 Coalition soldiers have been killed. Dozens of those killed appear to have been civilians.
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 09:06 PM
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7. The Geneva Convention covers the protection of civilians (link)
Edited on Sun Apr-11-04 09:07 PM by Eye and Monkey
From the International Committee of Red Cross - general link for alot of info about Int'l Humanitarian Law, Key documents, Basic rules of the Geneva Conventions, FAQs, ICRC publications
http://www.icrc.org/Web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/html/section_ihl_in_brief?OpenDocument



Specific to Protection of Civilians
http://www.icrc.org/web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/iwpList104/3DC51D580C436AEAC1256B660059520D

Section I

Protection against the effects of hostilities

Apart from a few provisions of limited scope, the Geneva Conventions do not deal with the general protection of civilian populations against the effects of hostilities. This matter came under The Hague Conventions, most of whose rules go back to 1907 and have from that time acquired a customary character and are still valid. But the evolution that has taken place since the beginning of this century in military technique and, in particular, extraordinary developments in aerial warfare has made it necessary to develop and make more specific the existing law of armed conflicts. This is the subject of Part IV of the First Protocol additional to the Conventions.

1. Fundamental principle and basic rules

The fundamental principle on which the law of armed conflicts is based is expressed as follows: In any armed conflict, the right of the Parties to the conflict to choose methods or means of warfare is not unlimited. Two basic rules follow from this principle. The first prohibits the use of weapons, projectiles and material and methods of warfare of a nature to cause unnecessary injury. The second, in order to ensure respect and protection for the civilian population and civilian property, obliges the Parties to the conflict to distinguish at all times between the civilian population and combatants, as well as between civilian property and military objectives and to direct their operations only against military objectives.

2. Definition of civilians and civilian Property

Any Person not belonging to the armed forces (see Chapter III, Section I) is considered as a civilian and the same applies in case of doubt as to his status. The civilian population comprises all persons who are civilians.

Civilian property is anything which is not a military objective, i.e. which by its nature, location, purpose or use does not effectively contribute to military action and whose total or partial destruction, capture or neutralization would not offer a definite military advantage in the circumstances ruling at the time. Thus, military equipment, a road of strategic importance, a supply column on its way to the army, a civilian building evacuated and reoccupied by combatants are military objectives. In case of doubt, a property which is normally assigned to civilian use should be considered as civilian and must not be attacked.

3. Protection of civilian persons and property

The prohibition of attacks on civilian persons and civilian property includes all acts of violence, whether committed in offence or defence. Attacks or threats of violence intended to terrorize the civilian Population are also prohibited.

The prohibition includes attacks launched indiscriminately. In particular these are attacks which are not directed or which cannot be directed, because of the methods or means of combat employed, at a military objective. Also considered as indiscriminate are attacks which treat as a single military objective a number of clearly separated and distinct military objectives located in a town, village or other area containing a similar concentration of civilians or civilian property. The same applies to attacks which cause incidental civilian losses and damage excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated.

The presence or movements of the civilian population or individual civilians must not be used to try to shield military objectives from attack or to shield, favour or impede military operations.

The Fourth Convention provides for the conclusion by Parties to a conflict of local agreements for the evacuation from besieged or encircled areas of wounded, sick, disabled and old people, children and women in labour, and for the passage of ministers of all religions, medical personnel and equipment on their way to such areas.

The Protocol forbids starving civilian populations. Objects indispensable to the survival of civilian populations, such as foodstuffs, agricultural areas, crops, livestock, drinking water installations and supplies and irrigation works must neither be attacked, destroyed, removed nor rendered useless. A belligerent may depart from this rule only on its own territory and only if imperative military necessities require it to do so.

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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 09:15 PM
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9. International Criminal Court
"Ironically, then, Iraq could, in theory, invoke the ICC to charge the United States for war crimes committed on their territory in the current campaign - but the U.S. could not invoke the ICC to charge Iraq with war crimes committed in the past on Iraq's own territory."

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/commentary/20030404_fletcher.html
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 10:18 PM
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12. Try Saddam and Bush in the same dock
That would save some time and money.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 08:56 PM
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3. I am understanding too well the phrase, "my heart is heavy "
We need to get out NOW!!! We have no right to put these people through this...and for what? FOR WHAT?!

This is insanity!!!!

DK was right!
Peace....
DR
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 09:02 PM
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6. And Rumsfeld refers to these Iraqis as "thugs."
These are thugs and insurgents. We must beat them. Never mind that we are the ones who invaded their country. They are trying to protect themselves and property. They want us out and I can't blame them. Do we have no clear thinkers in this country?
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 08:57 PM
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5. Thank God Saddam is gone.
God Ble$$ America.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 09:07 PM
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8. WAR CRIMES
Document everything.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 09:52 PM
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 09:58 PM
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11. tick tock tick tock
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 12:12 AM
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13. They must bury their dead within 24 hours. And they...just...disappear.
Edited on Mon Apr-12-04 12:13 AM by JohnOneillsMemory
What the hell is the count now on civilian deaths?

So many bodies disintegrated by munitions.
Or burned away by fire.

Or buried promptly according to custom. At home. In a stadium.
On the side of the road. Where ever possible.

They just disappear like targets on a video game. 'Pop.' All gone.

How very convenient for the coalition of the billing.
No accountability. No damning numbers.
Not like Enron. We can understand loss if there are numbers.
But the bodies, like the books, are cooked.

The Marines are good at what they do.
All gone.
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