White House Releases Aug. 6, 2001, Document (Reuters) (at 6:07 PM) update

[Liberalator]

White House to Release Aug. 6, 2001, Document
Sat Apr 10, 2004 05:11 PM ET
http://www.reuters.com/printerFriendlyPopup.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=4797065

CRAWFORD, Texas (Reuters) - The White House planned to release on Saturday an Aug. 6, 2001, intelligence briefing for President Bush that outlined al Qaeda plans to strike within the United States, a senior Bush administration official said.
The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the page-and-a-half document would be released shortly. Its release had been demanded by members of the commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States.

The document, entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike Inside the United States," told Bush of plans by al Qaeda to attack the United States with explosives or hijack airplanes.

It will likely intensify the election-year debate in Washington over whether the Sept. 11 attacks could have been prevented in spite of Bush's insistence that the U.S. government did everything it could to head off the killer hijackings with the information on hand.

[Atman]

1. It will be releases "shortly?"

How long does it fucking take to say "here it is?" By not releasing it IMMEDIATELY, I immediately think they are trying to doctor or it or otherwise cover their tracks. Doctoring doesn't make sense, since supposedly the commission already has copies of it. So what's the deal? Why not just tell Ben-Veniste et al, "okee dokee, it's all yours...read it aloud!" Sources and methods my ass...it is pretty clear Bush wasn't supplied "sources and methods" because it would have been a waste of time to provide them to a man with no decision-making authority.

[Dookus]

3. supposedly

It's going to be released today. In about 20 minutes, according to Reuters.

[Piperay]

7. That's real convenient to release

it between Good Friday and Easter, they 'hope' no one will pay much attention.

[aquart]

25. Well, they're not stupid about everything.

[JoFerret]

46. Don't fret, this story has LEGS.

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[TheWebHead]

5. they're milking the clock to release it in the evening

on a Saturday before Easter, when many news organizations are out until Monday. Personally, if I was in the WH I'd have released it immediately after Condi's testimony to quell the speculation and shorten the news cycle.

[Gman]

21. And after the national news broadcasts this evening

which usually start around 5:30 pm CDT.

[T Bone]

28. AND after the Sunday News Shows are taped and in the can

Won't be nuthin' on the Sunday News Shows about it, they are usually taped Friday late or Saturday early, right ?

How conveeeennient !

[MaineDem]

29. I think many are done on Sunday

This will make the Sunday shows, I'm sure.

[SpiralHawk]

2. Yeah, so where are the Cheney Energy papers?

Cough them up, too.

C'mon - make a clean breast of it
(Note to Att. Gen. Ashcroft: No Janet Jackson reference made or implied).

We paid for those meetings, and we are paying still with the lives of our soldiers.

So cough 'em up. Now.

[salinen]

4. The secret energy task

force minutes is the mother of all smoking guns.

[grytpype]

6. Agreed.

Oily Dick was dividing up Iraq's oil fields long before 9/11.

[proud patriot]

27. Then we must intist they be released to the 911 commission

screw Judicial watch ,, get the to the 911 commission..

If what is in them is what I think is in them ,

Bush is toast

[calimary]

79. ANOTHER good thing to MAKE A STINK ABOUT: Here's How:

FIRST THING MONDAY MORNING:

Please note, here, The World's Greatest Lists of Media Contacts - not one but TWO of 'em - in the following thread:

LINK:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1380003

[G_j]

26. I've always had the feeling

those papers could bring this adminstration down. Thats why we will probably NEVER see them.

[goforit]

81. Yes , we do need to know whom is at this helm of manslaughters.

These VIPs are making the decisions every day.........

We need to know whom our mysterious leaders are.

[senseandsensibility]

8. I'm curious

Does anyone think there will be anything in the PDB that hasn't already been leaked?

[PfcHammer]

13. FCC knew in advance that Janet Jackson's boob was coming out

but LIHOP so they could go after Howard Stern

[aquart]

30. Good grief.

Evidence? Link?

[kentuck]

9. It's already been released..

The media already has it. They're a little late with their gesture... They can say they are cooperating, I suppose?

[jjmalonejr]

10. They're also planning a simultaneous background briefing...

...to "provide additional context" (i.e. to instruct the press as to how they should report on it).

[acmavm]

11. Way too little way too late.

n/t

[Laughing Mirror]

12. How do we know it has not been redacted?

And why wasn't it released immediately when asked for?

It was my understanding that the commission had not viewed the entire document, just a small portion of it. That's what one of the commissioners said the other day, I forget which one, questioning that Rice monster woman.

[senseandsensibility]

14. I thought I read

that the only female commisioner had seen the whole document. If this isn't true, we really have no way of knowing if we're seeing the whole thing. I hope no one thinks the press would actually question this administration's honesty;it's not gonna happen!

[arcane1]

33. do they ever release ALL of anything????

the Iraq weapons declaration had pages removed

the original 9/11 report had pages removed

Clinton's papers were mostly kept hidden, they only released a few pages

Judicial Watch only got a few scaps of The Dick's energy papers...

[mobuto]

63. They released a photocopy of the document, which you can get

online in PDF format. You can see the whole document and there are sections redacted, but they appear only to contain the name of the foreign intelligence source the information came from, and wouldn't seem to conceal information relevant to the 9/11 inquiry.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

84. Where's the other nine-and-half pages?....

<http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/2002/diezeit100102.html>

"Crawford, Aug. 6, 2001. U.S. president George W. Bush is on vacation. He wants to spend the whole month at his ranch in Texas. Every morning, however, he still receives his Presidential Daily Brief, or PDB, wherein the CIA informs the president about the country's security situation. On this morning, the report is straight from the CIA director. His PDB runs 11 and one-half printed pages, instead of the usual two to three, and carries the title, "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S." Therein the CIA chief explains that al Qaeda has decided to carry out attacks within the United States, and that presumably members of the terrorist organization have been in the country for some time. It is unclear whether the CIA director informed the president about the statements of arrested al Qaeda members. According to their confessions, the terrorist organization for some time has been thinking about hijacking planes and using them as missiles."

[Newsjock]

15. 6:15pm EDT, according to AP

off the wire:

WASHINGTON (AP) _ President Bush's August 2001 briefing on terror threats included information that federal agents were investigating reports three months earlier about a possible plot on U.S. soil. The White House expected to release the document around 6:15 EDT Saturday, a historic disclosure of presidential intelligence briefing materials. The document also states that al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden's desire to strike inside America surfaced as long as four years before Bush took office, according to several people who have seen the memo.

[Enraged_Ape]

16. This smells like a set-up. That document has nothing important in it.

There's NO WAY they would release it that fast if it did.

This whole thing is a scam. I suspect Condi's mentioning of that document was worked out with the conservative members of the panel ahead of time. The whole idea is to make it look like some huge smoking gun, then turn out to be full of nothing. Then the BFEE can point to it as proof that they're being picked on, and the whore media will be in full agreement 24 hours a day, all weekend long.

Sorry to sound pessimistic about this, but Cheney is STILL fighting releasing the minutes from his energy meetings, so why would he let something as potentially incriminating as this get out?

[Laughing Mirror]

18. what do you mean release it that fast?

It's been awhile (a few days if not more) since the document was demanded.

And what makes you think Rosemary Woods is not there, a bottle of white-out at the ready, preparing it for release?

How do we know the document they're releasing is the same document that landed on or near Bush's desk that day, August 6, 2001?

[JoFerret]

47. You may be right. After all....

WHY are they releasing it at all?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

85. Right. Nothing more important than airplanes, high explosives,...

...and New York City.

[0007]

17. Why should we expect anything big?

We know that if 'ya gave these clowns a pig they wouldn't give 'ya a pork chop.

[kentuck]

19. PDB's are not given as "history" lessons....

They are given by the intelligence depts so as to give the latest, most up-to-the-minute information about matters of national security. Otherwise, there would be no PDBs....

[JohnOneillsMemory]

22. Looks like Georgie can use the fekkin' history lesson, too. VIETNAM. n/t

[TahitiNut]

34. The Dim Son is an exception.

As a totally clueless sock puppet, all he gets is tutelage ... in small doses. That's why Condi grabbed that word. I means he's not kept up-to-date on anything. Where real Presidents get actual daily information updates, the Nit-witted Narcissist is given Romper Room reading materials. When any real President needs 'historical' information, he's given a background briefing paper. The Dim Son won't read that much. The Dim Son's PDBs are limited to less than 2 pages (and not 'daily' either) while real Presidents get up to 5 pages or more every day.

[Lugnut]

20. A page and a half?

Is this all a sitting president needs to know on a daily basis about everything that is happening on a given day? Or is this about all DimSon can handle at one time?

I read more than a page and a half of information within five minutes at DU!

[wndycty]

24. FAUX HAS IT

:kick:

[TahitiNut]

32. Pox probably got 'leaked' info ahead of the rest ...

... so they could spin the reichbot bullshit. The Pox-spin is still pointing fingers at the quarantined agencies that had information that the Busholinis didn't want to become combined with other agencies' information.

[ParanoidPat]

37. I read that Clinton received PDB's that were 8 - 12 pages every day......

.....that he considered the Readers Digest condensed version. :evilgrin:

Bush* had them cut back on the size of the PDB's because he found them hard to follow! :eyes:

What he gets is the description of the condensed version. :(

[Beetwasher]

23. MUST SEE LINKS RE: PDB'S

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB116 /

And a discussion from the other day on DU that was very good:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&a...

[Mr.Green93]

31. the precedent is set

now we can demand all the pre 911 PDBs

[WinningDoubt]

42. Yeah right. How far back you wanna go?

Let's start with Carter and go through Reagan, Bush and Clinton. It's not going to happen and you know it. There is so much behind doors that we will never see in our lifetimes.

[shoopnyc123]

35. LET THE SPIN BEGIN! eom

[VolcanoJen]

36. ABC World News Saturday - top story, covering this now...

.. showing pictures of the memo, which is redacted, but not heavily.

Anyone have a link to a .pdf for this PDB? :-)

[AussieInCA]

38. on CNN Analysis (Schneider) all was there except sept 11 date

and it was everything Clarke said and reinforced they were not taking it seriously enough.

[Beetwasher]

41. I Couldn't Believe It! I Heard it Too! MEGAWHORE SCHNEIDER!!!

It must be a big deal...

[WillyT]

39. Yeah, Is It Out There For Us To See Yet ???

:shrug:

[VolcanoJen]

40. Here's what I have from the memo; ABC News showed part of it

They only showed one page; it was redacted, but not heavily. I paused the photo on my Tivo, and here is all that was legible on-screen:

After US missile strikes on his base in Afghanistan in 1998, Bin Laden told followers he wanted to retaliate in Washington according to a (REDACTED) service.

An Egyptian Islamic Jihad (EIJ) operative told an (REDACTED) service at the same time that Bin Laden was preparing to exploit the operative's access to the US to mount a terrorist strike.

In a full-page screenshot of the first page of the memo, those were the only two words which were redacted. I only saw the first page, and the words were illegible until they zoomed in on the above passage.

[Beetwasher]

43. Historical Information For Sure

But VERY Relevant because they were telling him that for a reason, because there was something he needed to know to make decisions in the IMMEDIATE future about. That's what a PDB is, it's a NEED TO KNOW LIST for the day that usually leads to or influences policy or action in the IMMEDIATE FUTURE.

[TahitiNut]

44. It was a FIRE being lit under Dim Son's butt.

... and he didn't feel it. (Where there's no sense, there's no feeling.)

The picture is clear. At the White House briefing level, it was known a pattern of al-Qaeda behavior left no room for doubt that they were planning an attack within the US, most specifically Washington and New York.

Nobody in the White House, least of all the Dim Son, took any steps to 'harvest' and combine associated information from within the bowels of the CIA, INS, and FBI. Nothing. Instead, they quarantined the various pockets of such information.

Clearly, that information was available in abundnace, going back to May 2001 and more.

Dim Son went out for photo ops. Dim Son went and did fund-raising. Dim Son did nothing.

LIHOP

[wildwww2]

68. If Dim Son had done something. Maybe 9-11 wouldn`t have happened!

then his lap dog media. Would have a hard time helping him steal another election. That is why I cannot watch network or cable TV. All the talking heads are such bad actors. They act upset that we lost so many people on 9-11. But their bad acting is exposed when they cover for Bu$h Inc.`s bogus 9-11 inquiry(whitewash or cover up is more accurate) If I was an anchor I would be blistering mad that we cannot find out what exactly happened. Some of my family could be in the next set of buildings the terrorist`s target. An improper investigation could help the terrorists. Who`s side is Bu$h Inc. on? Not the American people`s that is for sure.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President

[sandnsea]

45. CNN - Transcript

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6.memo/index.html

[tlcandie]

48. And what did they do with any of this? Did they gather up all the sparrows

and check every tidbit of info to see if there was something missing? Did they put the fire under this mess to get all the chatter translated properly?

Planes, hijackings, federal buildings, explosives... IMO, it doesn't matter that it did not say 'planes used as missles'...what was there was enough to put a fire under this admin's ass to put out WANTED photos and check out ALL possible information regarding EACH of these people including schools and bank accounts.

But then again, I guess that was asking too much for this new administration since their main priority wasn't terrorism, it was retribution on Iraq and getting hold of the country's oil supply along with getting their footprint into the ME for conquering purposes.

Their sin...if you want to call it that...was that they weren't focused on the correct thing. They were focused on power and the resources of other countries. THAT IS WHY 9-11 WAS LIHOP because they were negligent and did let it happen as it wasn't their priority.

[VolcanoJen]

49. Even I didn't believe the PDB would mention WASHINGTON and NEW YORK!

Condi said the PDB provided "historical information," and made no mention that the only two cities mentioned in the PDB were WASHINGTON and NEW YORK.

Clandestine, foreign government, and media reports indicate bin Laden since 1997 has wanted to conduct terrorist attacks in the US. Bin Laden implied in U.S. television interviews in 1997 and 1998 that his followers would follow the example of World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef and "bring the fighting to America."

After U.S. missile strikes on his base in Afghanistan in 1998, bin Laden told followers he wanted to retaliate in Washington, according to a (REDACTED) service.

<snip>

Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.

[TahitiNut]

50. And "hijack" of airplanes is mentioned TWICE.

Inaction by this adminstration at this point is INEXCUSABLE.


LIHOP

[VolcanoJen]

51. Why did he continue to read the Goatie Book to the kids?

Why didn't Chimpy connect the dots the second that Andy Card whispered "A second plane has hit the second tower. America is under attack." Why wasn't he rushed out of that classroom by Secret Service? Why didn't he immediately recall the August 6 PDB, and all the other warnings and information he had received in Tenet's briefings?

I have absolutely, over the past several days, reluctantly succumbed to LIHOP. :-(

ON EDIT: On the anniversary of 9/11, ABC ran an excellent three-hour account of that day, complete with Condi and Cheney and Card interviews. I taped it, and I'm going to rewatch that tonight, and my stomach is going to twist itself into knots. :-(

[TahitiNut]

52. They may have expected more simultaneity in the crashes.

When I watched Dim Son in Romper Room, I got the clear impression of someone waiting for the other shoe to fall. They clearly knew how many planes to expect and were just waiting for each to hit.

[tlcandie]

53. It furthered their agenda and it was happening/done ... all they had

left to do was pick up the pieces and project 'em forward with a war on terrorism and BINGO they had their Pearl Harbor that allowed them to move all their chess pieces in one fell swoop.

Why would they fight it? It was, after all, exactly the incident they wanted which is why they avoided any action against it.

I think the thing of reading the children's story is a psyops thing.. the juxtaposition of that and the trade towers burning and going down is beyond all comprehension in one's mind...it doesn't fit. Does anyone have any clue about how psyops would work in this situation to create something false in the public's mind?

Something is odd about the two scenes juxtaposed against each other and I'm not educated in the field of psychology enough to find this thread that would allow us to understand exactly why they chose for him to be reading this story and not leave when there was the mother of all emergencies happening which would normally have had the CIA agents escorting him to safety immediately.

[goclark]

61. My Theory On The Goat Story

They got him out of DC on purpose.
I now believe They Made It Happen On Purpose.
They had him in Texas. far away from the action.

Best that he reads a story about Goats. He had to read the story long enough for the second plane to hit and he would not be "held responsible" by a nation in shock for doing nothing about it.

Chaney was running the show and Babysitter Candi was in touch with Baby Bush at all times. Her job was to keep Baby Bush calm and out of the way.

They let Richard Clarke be in charge at the WH because, "when the going gets tough, the wimps go the other way."

Chaney was dancing with glee in private. Lynn was intensionally leaving the phone off the hook so Clarke could do his thing. The Ugly Chaney's and wimp Karen Hughes certainly didn't know what to do.

Wolfie and the gang were trying to save their own ass. Their pampers needed changing but.. they KNEW that this was their silver bullet.


It may sound far fetched but, IMO,the impeach process should begin! I know it will never happen but I can dream can't I?

[54anickel]

65. Hey tlcandie, I think it was you who once asked me if I believed in

LIHOP and I said the evidence was pretty damning but the jury in mind was still out. I wasn't ready to believe they could be that evil. I'm nearly convinced of it now.

[Beetwasher]

57. "That Was One Terrible Pilot!"

After the 8/6 memo, that comment alone should impeach him for criminal incompetence.

[Hailtothechimp]

82. Agreed. The 8/6/01 PDB lays this claim to rest.

9/11 was clearly LIHOP at the absolute minimum. And those who would never have considered this possibility 6 months ago would be hard-pressed to deny it now.

[Beetwasher]

56. It's ALL THERE EXCEPT THE DATE

For fucks sake it's all there.

LIHOP was never clearer. Wow.

[IndianaGreen]

83. Everything but the date!

You are exactly right! The only thing the memo did not give was the date and the names of the hijackers. All the other details were there to give a reasonable person cause for alarm.

[Ravy]

58. Cmon, it was HISTORICAL information that they...

... were in NY scoping out the scene of the attack.

It was HISTORICAL that they were in the US planning an attack with explosives, and that they were in a pattern of hijacking.

Who could have put together that they were planning on exploding hijacked planes in NY. It was a whole paragraph apart!!!!

Give them the names, dates, times, places, flight numbers, seat numbers, pictures of the perpetrators, method of hijacking and the floors of the WTC they were aiming for. Now, THAT'S threat reporting. None of this "historical" stuff.

/sarcasm off

[xxqqqzme]

66. 'sleeza was right about one thing

it doesn't say where and it doesn't say when, altho it does say who (but not specifically, only generally) and it does say how (again only generally - there R no flight numbers or airlines or departing airports). What is her title again? National not-a-clue advisor?

[daleo]

54. Very damning material, no matter how they try to spin it.

At best, they will have to argue simple incompetence, at worst more and more people will begin thinking LIHOP. To think, he sat and read "The Pet Goat", knowing this, and Rice said "nobody could imagine planes being used as missiles", after reading this.

There are too many damning words and phrases:

"bin Laden since 1997 has wanted to conduct terrorist attacks in the US."

"his followers would follow the example of World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef and "bring the fighting to America.""

"After U.S. missile strikes on his base in Afghanistan in 1998, bin Laden told followers he wanted to retaliate in Washington"

"bin Laden was planning to exploit the operative's access to the U.S. to mount a terrorist strike."

"Al Qaeda members -- including some who are U.S. citizens -- have resided in or traveled to the U.S. for years, and the group apparently maintains a support structure that could aid attacks."

"Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft to gain the release of "Blind Sheikh" Omar Abdel Rahman and other U.S.-held extremists."

"time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York."

"FBI are investigating a call to our embassy in the UAE in May saying that a group or bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives."

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

55. The Ad I Would Like To See "Move On" Run Next

I would like them to run Bush's very own ad, slightly modified, but that would probably be copyright infringement. Nonetheless, they should make almost an exact copy of Bush's 911 ad, showing Bush's face, showing New York City, the coffins, the Twin Towers, the firefighters, and simply scroll the words from this PDB, with a narrator reading this text. That way, every time someone sees the real Bush ad, they will be reminded:

"...FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York..."

"...The FBI is conducting approximately 70 full-field investigations throughout the U.S. that it considers bin Laden-related. CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our embassy in the UAE in May saying that a group or bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives..."

[sandnsea]

62. Except use that voice

That morning in America voice so every time people hear it they'll remember these damning words instead of whatever crap Bush has in his ads.

[evworldeditor]

59. Here's Direct Link to PDB pdf file

http://www.cnn.com/2004/images/04/10/whitehouse.pdf

Let's see... It mentions hijackings, New York, highly suspicious activities, the World Trade Center, and Bin Laden operatives being in the US planning attacks with explosives.

But I guess it really doesn't say 9/11... so that should let Bush and Rice off the hook.


-----------------------
Discover the future in motion
http://www.evworld.com

[TroglodyteScholar]

60. On CNN.....

...Robert Novak and some conservative woman in the "Capitol Hill Gang" were spinning the HELL out of this. They were both talking about how it proves that the whole commission is just Democratic grandstanding.

It's amazing what a person can actually believe when he or she doesn't WANT to believe the truth.

[IndianaGreen]

64. Bush knew! Cynthia McKinney has been vindicated.

Nothing left to do but to impeach him and Cheney.

[TomNickell]

71. No. McKinney's words are still stupid.

The invisible line marks the point at which you imply that bunches of people knew details, date, names and deliberately did nothing.

McKinney crossed that line.

[mouse7]

75. No, you are crossing the line and know nothing about McKinney.

You don't even know what McKinney said. You are repeating freeper talking points.

McKinney asked three questions in the "famous" interview, not one.

1) What did Bush know and when did he know it about 9/11?

2) Why the Patriot Act?

3) Is the President's father going to profit from the increased defense spending going to corparations like the Carlyle Group?

The three questions were asked in that order. The Patriot Act question was in between the "who profits" question. The "who profits" question was CLEARLY SEPERATED from the 9/11 question by the Patriot Act question. It was clearly three seperate thought. There was NO "What did Bush Know when did he know it, and is he profiting from 9/11" question. It never happened. It's a neo-con lie.

It is COMPLETELY appropriate for a member of Congress to ask if a member of the President's family is profiting from the Defense appropriations process. THAT is what the third question WAS.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

77. Oh, please. All it takes is a few people at the top to make, or not...

...make, a few key decisions.

[54anickel]

67. scotxyz posted the scanned image of actual docs from this link -

Someone else made the great observation of how the page numbers have been blacked out. The continuity of flow does seem questionable.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0409041pdb1.html

[Centered]

80. Just a thought

Hold on a sec...

quote from PDB:
We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a ---- service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft to gain the release of "Blind Sheikh" Omar Abdel Rahman and other U.S.-held extremists.

All that really tells us is that someone told someone else that in 1998 Bin Laden wanted to hijack a plane.

quote from PDB:
Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.

Ok there might be something here... but very thin because of....

quote from PDB:
The FBI is conducting approximately 70 full-field investigations throughout the U.S. that it considers bin Laden-related. CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our embassy in the UAE in May saying that a group or bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives.

And that right there is the "get out of jail free card" because the President is being told that people are looking into it.

To believe that the President "let it happen" is still irresponsible at this time because you would also have to define exactly what "it" is... did he "let" a plane get hijacked? Historically I can't recall any hijacking where the hijacker(s) didn't want something and were willing to trade the plane and passengers for it, not to kill everyone on the plane and thousands others to make a statement. (of course that's not to say it hasn't happened.) Also though one could simply site that there were 70 Bin Laden investigations in operation at the time. What more is there other than to "put someone on it?"

We would be gullible indeed to simply follow in the thinking that the United States has always been "the good guys" I am certain Presidents of both parties have done some very despicable things in the far corners of the world "in our country's best interest"

Why is it so difficult to simply accept that there are people out there who want YOU dead, and they don't care that you didn't vote for Bush or even that you did? The towers specifically were first attacked while Mr. Clinton was the President so that tells us that the terrorists didn't do this as a response to something President Bush has done.

The response from the United States in any "terrorist action" in my memory starting with the Iran Hostage crisis under President Carter has been either not very sufficient of a deterrent or non-existent. So why would anyone think that we would start fighting back now?

The sad fact is that these radicals were able to score big time, and they didn't care who they killed as long as they killed Americans. I hope that the 9/11 commission will be able to succeed in it's goal... to help develop ways to ensure that attacks like this never happen again (if such a thing is possible)

Disclaimer: the term "Americans" is used to refer to citizens of the United States even though it is understood by the author that the term "Americans" actually can refer to people from either of the continents bearing the name America.

[DoYouEverWonder]

69. They released the 1.5 page document?

What the hell happened to the other ten pages?


http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/2002/diezeit100102.html


Crawford, Aug. 6, 2001. U.S. president George W. Bush is on vacation. He wants to spend the whole month at his ranch in Texas. Every morning, however, he still receives his Presidential Daily Brief, or PDB, wherein the CIA informs the president about the country's security situation. On this morning, the report is straight from the CIA director. His PDB runs 11 and one-half printed pages, instead of the usual two to three, and carries the title, "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S." Therein the CIA chief explains that al Qaeda has decided to carry out attacks within the United States, and that presumably members of the terrorist organization have been in the country for some time. It is unclear whether the CIA director informed the president about the statements of arrested al Qaeda members. According to their confessions, the terrorist organization for some time has been thinking about hijacking planes and using them as missiles.

[54anickel]

72. That explains the blacked out page numbers in post 67 n/t

[DoYouEverWonder]

73. Yep, can you say Obstruction of Justice

because if this turns out to be true, I think we have a rock solid case to charge this gang with High Crimes and Misdeameanors.

This ain't no stained blue dress, this is purposely misleading the 9-11 Commission and the American people.

[54anickel]

74. Will the commission ask how many pages, or will they let it slide?

I can't see how they can let it slide, what with that article stating it was 11 1/2 pages long. Maybe we should start contacting them right away on it. :shrug:

[DoYouEverWonder]

76. Let them know

and everyone else in the world. If this is true it needs to be told far and wide.

[JawJaw]

87. Hmmmm

So, we have a one and a half page excerpt from an eleven and a half page document, with the page numbers blanked out....

Now, do you think this excerpt was closer to page ONE or page ELEVEN???

Hmmmmmm...lemme guess......

And what would THAT tell us about the national security priorities of the Bush administration in August 2001?

[MoonRiver]

89. And even more frightening is the prospect that it EXACTLY reflects

*'s priorities: LIHOP. :scared:

[L.A.dweller]

70. Here is the Daily News heading for today

Bush got August alert
Disclosure contradicts White House claims about briefing

By Eric Lichtblau and David E. Sanger
The New York Times

WASHINGTON -- President George W. Bush was told more than a month before the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, that supporters of Osama bin Laden planned an attack within the United States with explosives and wanted to hijack airplanes, a government official said Friday.

The warning came in a secret briefing that Bush received at his ranch in Crawford, Texas, on Aug. 6, 2001. A report by a joint congressional committee last year alluded to a "closely held intelligence report" that month about the threat of an attack by al-Qaida, and the official confirmed an account by The Associated Press on Friday saying that the report was in fact part of the president's briefing in Crawford.

The disclosure appears to contradict the White House's repeated assertions that the briefing the president received about the al-Qaida threat was "historical" in nature and that the White House had little reason to suspect an al-Qaida attack within American borders.


--More @ Dailynews.com

[Media_Lies_Daily]

78. And Junior can't claim that he never saw the PDB.

[JoFerret]

88. Even AOL

has a critical heading. <<Pre 9/11 memo did warn Bush.>> I look forward to people's versions of this morning's talk show spin.

[JCMach1]

86. At the end of the first paragraph is "World Trade Center"

What more do you need to put the pieces together?