Turkey's leader asks Obama to thwart genocide vote

[bemildred]

Source: AP

ANKARA, Turkey -- Turkey's prime minister has asked the U.S. president to prevent a possible House vote on a resolution declaring the World War I-era killings of Armenians a genocide.

Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu told parliament on Monday that Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan had sent U.S. President Barack Obama a letter asking he prevent the vote, saying it could damage ties between the two allies.

Davutoglu said: "we cannot allow the resolution to hang over Turkish-US ties like a Sword of Damocles."

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/20/AR2010122002028.html

[groovedaddy]

1. It was genocide. The Turks want it swept into the memory hole. n.t

[dipsydoodle]

2. It happened - the genocide.

Turkey should just deal with it.

[JustAnotherGen]

3. Since it worked the last time

They probably thought that it could work again. They need to get over themselves and fess up that a long time ago this happened.

[fascisthunter]

4. It Was Genocide

[nyy1998]

5. It was a genocide for sure, and considering the way Erdogan has treated Obama:

Obama should do him no favors.

[postulater]

6. Let's compromise.

We'll not mention Armenia if they arrest Bush and Cheney.

[JustAnotherGen]

7. Brilliant!

[Kurska]

8. Considering how Turkey has treated its western allies there better be alot more

to this request than just pretty please.

Because frankly, I don't see why we should go out of our way to spare the feelings of a country who has done nothing but undermine us for years.

[Posteritatis]

10. Throwing tantrums over the genocide being called a genocide is Turkey's national sport. (nt)

[Wilms]

9. Davutoglu's focus is wrong...

Davutoglu said: "we cannot allow the resolution to hang over Turkish-US ties..."

The problem is that the Genocide (and the refusal to take responsibility) hangs over Turkey. The EU regularly cites it in it's refusal to allow Turkey entry into the EU. Meanwhile, there are many in Turkey who figure it better to face it than to continue denying it.

Still, Israel (that's right, Israel!) refuses to recognize the Genocide. Since Turkey holds sway over that country, they might feel they can prevail over the US.

[hughee99]

11. Is this really what's preventing Turkey from getting into the EU?

Given the behavior of some current EU members over the last hundred years, I'd be surprised to hear THIS was the blocking factor.

[DinahMoeHum]

12. It's a very important factor. The French and Italians are very adamant

about Turkey owning up to it's complicity. There are also sizable Armenian populations in both countries.

Simply put, their attitude to the Turks is: Own up or you can't join up.

So, Turkey has its prick in a cleft stick on this issue.

[hughee99]

14. Given France's history in Algeria and Rwanda

as well as the Vichy government's behavior in WW2, I'm surprised they're so adamant on this.

[gerenimox]

15. the french nazis better reconize the Algerian genocide they carried out first

[gerenimox]

16. no, Turkey can`t get into the EU just because it`s not christian

[harun]

13. Turkey should vote on the United States genocide of Native American's.

[gerenimox]

17. Not just that

They should also recognize the Turkish, Azeri, Bosnian, Algerian, Iraqi, Aztek, Mayan, Inkan, and Australian Aborigin Genocides carried out by the christian crusaders.

[BuddhaGirl]

23. The Unknown Genocide

http://motherjones.com/politics/2004/04/unknown-genocide

[gerenimox]

29. Forgotten Genocides

http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/genocides-forgotten.htm

[BuddhaGirl]

34. Meh. Bruce Fein is a well-known Armenian Genocide denialist.

n/t

[gerenimox]

36. just like you are a genocide denialist?

[gerenimox]

18. Yes It`s a genocide but only according to the christian world

all the countries that recognize this so called armenian genocide are christian and none of these christian countries recognize the Turkish, Azeri, Bosnian, Iraqi, Algerian, Native American, Aztek, Mayan, Incan, and Australian Aborigin genocides carried out by their christian ancestors.


WHAT A COINCIDENCE!

[BuddhaGirl]

24. United Human Rights Council on the Genocide

http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/genocide/armenian_genocide.htm

[gerenimox]

30. Russian Archives on the Turkish Genocide

http://www.zerbaijan.com/azeri/mikhailov.htm

[BuddhaGirl]

33. that's not Russian, that's Azerbaijan

which has its own axe to grind with Armenians.

Meh.

[gerenimox]

37. There wasn`t Azerbaijan when that report was published

maybe you would want to take a look at this too

http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/russian-archives.htm

[gerenimox]

19. Seriously, when will the christian crusaders recognize the crimes they committed?

starting with the Muslim genocide in Iraq and Afghanistan would be nice.

[gerenimox]

20. Watch the movie shot after the Azeri genocide by christian Armenians

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2BV5OyKOeI&NR=1


when will the christian crusaders recognize their crimes?

[gerenimox]

21. Turkish civilians genocided by christian Armenians

Photograph, taken on the spot, of soldiers belonging to the Imperial Army and disbanded on account of their ill-health who, on July 23rd, 1915, were willfully murdered by the Armenian Bands near the villages of Koom and Tcoom in Lidje Town.


A group of Muslim women and children from Hizir İllias village, Diyarbakir, helpless and defenseless on account of the absence of their husbands and male relatives serving in the Army, were, on July 23, 1915, slaughtered at Mersin Dere, by means of daggers and shot by rifles in a most pitiless and horibble way by an Armenian Band under the the notorious and well known bandit Hono.


Gendermas and officers belonging to the Provisions Columns of the Imperial Army, commanded by Hamid, an officer of the Milita, who, on July 11 1915, were assassinated by the Armenian bands at a place called Sheytan Kaya. These bands which had specially come from Van and Talory for the purpose of terrorizing the locality were under the leadership of the famous bandit Dorian Dano and his brothers and who afterwards were discovered to have taken refurge in the Armenian village of Beshnik, in Silvan.


Revolted Armenians fighting in the trenches against Turks for the purpose of faciliating the occupation of the city of Van by the Russians.


Genderma officer Mustafa whose throat was cut by the Armenian bandits.



Two men whose eyes were scooped out by the Armenians in Odabasi district, Erzincan.


Elders, women and children were killed and tied to each other, Odabasi District, Erzincan


Those people were thrown in wells by the Armenians. Some parts of their bodies were cut into pieces by axes. Found on February 10, 1918.


The dead bodies of innocent Turkish people who were killed and left on snow by the Armenians in Erzincan


Unarmed people who were massacred by the Armenians in Ilica.


Turkish children and women killed by the Armenians. Some of the women were killed by taking the babies out from their wombs. Subatan, April 25, 1918.


A group of Armenian bandits, Ankara and Yozgat.


A group of the Armenian Tashnak bands during the Van rebellion

Reference:Massacre Exerted By The Armenian On The Turks During World War I Pictures

[BuddhaGirl]

25. there was no "Turkish Genocide"

and your term - "so-called genocide" is bullshit. Your propaganda is bullshit.

[gerenimox]

27. There was a Turkish Genocide

and you are a genocide denialist. How long will you christian propagandists ignore the hundreds of thousands of Turks genocided by your christian brothers?

[BuddhaGirl]

32. uh huh

:rofl:

[gerenimox]

22. Pictures of the Azeri Genocide by christian Armenians

http://www.khojaly.org.az/photos.html

[BuddhaGirl]

26. photo evidence of the Armenian Genocide by the Turks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoZz-ZPsVWI

[gerenimox]

28. Cool. Now check out the Photo evidence of the Turkish Genocide by Armenians

[BuddhaGirl]

31. Turkish propaganda

I wonder why the rest of the world recognizes the Armenian Genocide, but not a "turkish" one?

Oh yes, because it never happened :eyes:

[gerenimox]

35. rest of the wold? you mean the christian world?

the christian world recognizes the so called armenian genocide because armenians are christians

but the more important question is why those christian countries recognizing the so called Armenian genocide do not recognize the genocides carried out by christians such as the Turkish, Azeri, Bosnian, Algerian, Incan, Mayan, Aztek, Native American and Australian Aborigin genocides.

Have and answer to that?