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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 06:04 PM
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Passenger Finds Ammo Clip on Flight to Phoenix
Source: ABC News/AP

A passenger aboard a Southwest Airlines flight found a fully loaded ammunition clip from a police officer's service revolver during a flight from Burbank, Calif., to Phoenix.

Southwest Airlines spokesman Paul Flaningan says that after the passenger found the clip in flight Tuesday, he handed it over to the flight crew.

The plane landed safely in Phoenix and passengers on Flight 1297 were taken off and rescreened. The plane was also searched and no other weapons were found.

The passenger was met by TSA and Phoenix police at Sky Harbor International Airport and questioned.



Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/11/23/national/main7083220.shtml?tag=stack



Oh wonderful.

And as a gun owner my pet peeve is sloppy media writing on guns.

Magazine not clip. If it was a magazine the gun is a pistol not revolver. And if it was a revolver the the ammo device would be a speedloader or moon clip.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 06:07 PM
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1. I hope someones balls were checked thoroughly for all of this!
Edited on Tue Nov-23-10 06:07 PM by YOY
n/t
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 03:17 PM
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31. LOL My first cavity search
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 06:07 PM
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2. Ack!
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Ginto Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 06:08 PM
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3. I was wondering where I left that. nt
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 06:16 PM
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4. How dangerous is an ammo magazine/clip without a weapon?
Can the bullets be opened and the gun powder extracted to make trouble?
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 06:19 PM
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5. All depends upon your throwing arm
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The abyss Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 06:28 PM
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13. LOL
Great comment!

Still laughing
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 06:20 PM
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7. Not very I would think - bit tough to pry the bullet from the case
And not enough powder to do much damage I would think.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 06:24 PM
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9. So it's about as dangerous as it would be to find a pin from a hand grenade.
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 03:23 PM
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32. But only if said pin was not just removed from it's grenade
and the spoon has just sprung off of it.

BOOM
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 06:26 PM
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10. well, you pry open 4-5 bullets, gather the powder
CAREFULLY remove one cartridge's primer, pile it against the most vulnerable part of the plane, remove your pants (to use as wadding and padding), ask the stew for four Absolute vodkas, no ice, jump on one leg while holding the other leg with the opposite arm, while you down the four vodka bottles. If the air marshall has not restrained you, then take your shoe, and hit the primer with the heel.
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 06:31 PM
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14. A thermonuclear explosion is possible ...
... if MacGyver found it.
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 06:20 PM
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6. Excuse me while I whip this out
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 06:23 PM
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8. Probably some air marshall got careless, or like that. nt
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 06:27 PM
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12. yup.
like the nuke driver, probably had a few too many.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 06:27 PM
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11. Probably best to leave it for the cleaning crew!
Edited on Tue Nov-23-10 06:27 PM by FarCenter
The passenger was met by TSA and Phoenix police at Sky Harbor International Airport and questioned.
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 06:33 PM
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15. Ammo "clip"? From a service "revolver"?
Some copy writer doesn't know fuck all about handguns.

See, revolvers don't have clips. Semi-autos do...
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 06:49 PM
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16. Actually magazine is the preferred term
Definition of Clips:

Quote:
A clip is a device that is used to store multiple rounds of ammunition together as a unit, ready for insertion into the magazine of a repeating firearm. This speeds up the process of loading the firearm as several rounds can be loaded at once, rather than one round being loaded at a time. Several different types of clips exist, most of which are made of inexpensive metal stampings that are designed to be disposable, though they are often re-used.

Definition of Magazines:

Quote:
A magazine (also called a mag or, commonly but incorrectly, especially when removable, a clip) is an ammunition storage and feeding device within or attached to a firearm. Magazines may be integral to the firearm (fixed) or removable (detachable).

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=270656
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 08:23 PM
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19. By that definition, it could have been a speed loader for a revolver
but why not just call it that? Journalism is dead.
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 11:42 AM
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28. Precisely! I thought of speedloader myself.
But that sure as hell ain't a "clip".
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 07:08 PM
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17. Yep sloppy.
fookin' idiots.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 07:24 PM
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18. Was it in a urine bag or a breast prosthetic or a
Edited on Tue Nov-23-10 07:24 PM by avaistheone1
child's artificial leg?










:sarcasm:
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sweetapogee Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 07:19 AM
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27. formerly
in a body cavity.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 10:32 PM
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20. Forgetful gets remedial training
A federal law enforcement officer mistakenly left a loaded gun magazine that was found Tuesday on a Southwest Airlines plane, officials said.

The discovery was made after the flight from Burbank, California, to Phoenix, Arizona, landed, a member of a CNN crew aboard the plane said.

The head of the Transportation Security Administration said the unnamed law officer will be given remedial training.

-----

He said that after the plane had landed, a child behind them, who had been seated on his mother's lap, was crawling across the other seats on the row toward the window when his foot knocked something onto the floor. A flight attendant picked it up, he said, and he could see it was a gun magazine.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/11/23/plane.magazine.found/index.html?hpt=T2
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 11:19 PM
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21. thank goodness I'm not flying any time soon
this shit is just getting crazier
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 11:24 PM
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22. Yeah---Because NRA-Approved Terminology......
....is what we REALLY ought to be upset about. "Magazine not clip" my ass.

Typical gun enthusiast re-direction attempt, here. You're not fooling anybody but yourself.....
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 11:30 PM
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23. It technical language.
Edited on Tue Nov-23-10 11:33 PM by Pavulon
machinists and airline pilots use it. Using it incorrectly makes you sound stupid and lazy. If you are a major news organization one should avoid using technical terms if they can not be used correctly. Jet engines have rotors and stators, not spinny things. If you dont know what a stator is , look it up or use a different term. non spinny thing is not acceptable.

Modern semi automatics use magazines. That said a federal officer should not drop his magazine on a flight and leave it on the deck.

At the end of the day it is no harm to anyone, other than the agent who will finish his career having his balls busted for this stunt.

fucked with post: grammar
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 11:45 PM
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25. Writers write for their intended audience
So the fine points of technical language are usually of no interest.

This can be irritating for those of us that can make the distinctions in question. Today I saw an article that said airport scanners use "x-rays and new electromagnetic wave technology", as if x-rays weren't electromagnetic waves.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 11:52 PM
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26. No I don't agree - too many in journalism are lazy
They should get technical points where possible correct. Clip, ok. But service revolver - that dates back 20-30+ years when cops did carry revolvers - but now probably 90%+ carry pistols. Just write service weapon.

That pet peeve with me carries over to writing in fictional books and TV shows & movies.

It's more than just guns where I see sloppy writing and reporting by national media. To me that is inexcusable.

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 10:55 PM
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34. Everyone has a different area of expertise
Journalists are generalists (at best). They are bound to get a lot of technical jargon wrong. There are exceptions (e.g. good science writers), but they tend to prove the rule.
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 03:08 PM
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30. Complaining about a desire for accuracy in media reporting?
Seems rather thin gruel to sustain a grudge against "...active participant(s) in the gun rights movement.", but

if you want to be a self-appointed zampolit, go for it (as long as no DU rules are broken, naturally).



I have a question for you, if you can take time out from passing judgement on the ideological suitability of others:

You claim to have a closet full of guns that you no longer use- Why haven't you destroyed them?

Are you planning to sell them in the future- or use them?


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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-10 03:57 PM
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33. I'm liberal through and through
Edited on Wed Nov-24-10 04:01 PM by RamboLiberal
You have no right to question my credentials. So Happy Thanksgiving to you! I think you are the one with issues with your drive by post.

And my biggest complaint about the writer was not clip but that damn old "service revolver" when 90%+ of cops haven't carried a revolver as their service weapon in a couple of decades!
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