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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 03:52 AM Original message |
WikiLeaks founder uploads mystery (1.4GB "Insurance") file |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 03:55 AM Response to Original message |
1. And no one is concerned about the crimes in the leaks, apparently, just that they were leaked |
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SILVER__FOX52 (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 05:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. There are two types of "leakers"........ |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 07:59 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Yes, and here at DU we have our own "Wiki has blood on their hands" contingent, |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #14 |
97. Umm... it's easy for both to be true |
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FedUp_Queer (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 03:50 PM Response to Reply #97 |
106. Umm...no it's not. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 07:50 PM Response to Reply #106 |
135. Seriously? |
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FedUp_Queer (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 11:07 PM Response to Reply #135 |
239. Didn't happen. |
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bigmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 03:52 PM Response to Reply #97 |
107. It doesn't, but it ignores the disproportionate carnage caused. |
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krawhitham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #97 |
119. +1 |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 07:39 PM Response to Reply #97 |
132. Yes, I am undecided on this whole thing. Once again, it disappoints that some are so quick to jump |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 08:49 PM Response to Reply #132 |
142. There is nothing subtle about the enormous numbers of suicides in the military these days |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 07:29 PM Response to Reply #142 |
234. There actually was a coalition of countries in Afghanistan who agreed |
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FedUp_Queer (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #234 |
240. Universally hated? |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 06:10 AM Response to Reply #240 |
246. Yep, and they were still universally hated. You can try and parse that all you want n/t |
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FedUp_Queer (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 07:33 AM Response to Reply #246 |
248. First...that's not true. (Just because you say it, doesn't make it true to satisfy your bloodlust.) |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 11:50 AM Response to Reply #248 |
250. In your fantasy world, the Taliban were a beloved group worldwide then, eh? Good luck with that meme |
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FedUp_Queer (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 01:35 PM Response to Reply #250 |
251. You can't possibly be serious. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 02:12 PM Response to Reply #251 |
256. Like I said, Good Luck with that one. You are gonna need it. |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #256 |
262. Oooh, we're quivering in fear.. Hah hah hah! |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 09:51 PM Response to Reply #262 |
265. Like I said to the other guy, good luck revising history n/t |
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FedUp_Queer (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-10 12:48 AM Response to Reply #265 |
270. You really have no idea what you are talking about. |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-10 01:15 AM Response to Reply #265 |
273. Wow, one liner post number three.. |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #250 |
261. Nice Strawman, but it shows how stupid you are. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 09:52 PM Response to Reply #261 |
266. Hey, if you want to try to revise history, be my guest. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-10 01:12 AM Response to Reply #266 |
271. Deleted message |
Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #248 |
260. Shhh, it makes the "Good" vs "Evil" meme break down for the propaganda it was.. |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #246 |
259. Ah yes, an empty, vapor filled one line response. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 09:52 PM Response to Reply #259 |
267. Nothing more is warranted for those attempting to revise history n/t |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-10 01:14 AM Response to Reply #267 |
272. I already called you out on the one liner above... |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #234 |
258. Don't forget the crack contingent from the US Marshall Islands! |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 09:56 PM Response to Reply #258 |
268. You can get as snarky with me as you want. It will not change history to read the way you want it to |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-10 01:22 AM Response to Reply #268 |
274. I have no need to change history, it speaks for itself |
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hay rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 08:00 PM Response to Reply #97 |
136. Hypotheses restated and expanded. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 08:04 PM Response to Reply #136 |
137. All three could be true |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 03:19 PM Response to Reply #97 |
222. How about #3 - leaking the documents could help stop the carnage |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 06:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
122. Count me as one |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 09:55 AM Response to Reply #122 |
199. What you said. |
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FedUp_Queer (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 11:32 PM Response to Reply #199 |
241. WTF? |
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Fool Count (878 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 07:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
129. In fact, it is very easy to argue (and is very likely true) that |
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ezdidit (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
156. Exactly, Raster. |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
221. +1000 |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 08:27 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Sickening |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
83. "if the truth ever comes out" |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #17 |
205. ELLSBERG SUPPORTS WIKILEAKS AFGHAN OCCUPATION DAIRIES |
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burnsei sensei (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 02:13 PM Response to Reply #17 |
257. +1 nt |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:54 AM Response to Reply #7 |
38. And now the MIC is in control. nt |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 03:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
105. Also, it is not clear the manner by which the leaks would |
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backtomn (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
114. BIG NEWS.......Careful......we now know more about Pvt. Manning |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 05:25 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. Is it ok that 10000's of innocent Afghan's die for a pipeline? |
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backtomn (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:06 PM Response to Reply #115 |
148. I guess your answer is "YES"..... |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:34 PM Response to Reply #148 |
157. Your position is that a few American lives are worth far more than |
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backtomn (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #157 |
158. Nice red herring........pitiful |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:57 PM Response to Reply #158 |
161. wtf are you talking about? |
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backtomn (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 10:17 PM Response to Reply #161 |
162. Pulling out......not currently an option..... |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 10:36 AM Response to Reply #162 |
202. I did answer your question, you just didn't like the answer. |
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FedUp_Queer (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 12:02 AM Response to Reply #162 |
243. I never thought I would actually see what I'm seeing. |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 03:25 PM Response to Reply #148 |
224. Excuse me, in fact only 3500 troops have died in combat, the other 1000 in non-combat deaths. |
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FedUp_Queer (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 11:48 PM Response to Reply #148 |
242. Are you kidding? ARE YOU F-ING KIDDING???? |
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gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 06:18 PM Response to Reply #114 |
121. Oh please |
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backtomn (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:08 PM Response to Reply #121 |
149. Did I blame gays??? !! |
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gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #149 |
204. You're funny |
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Historic NY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 06:54 PM Response to Reply #114 |
128. I'd say he just cost DADT advocates a lots of grief...it shows a breach of trust.. |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 07:32 PM Response to Reply #114 |
131. IT'S THE GAYS! IT'S THE GAYS! It couldn't POSSIBLY be that some people are disgusted by the.... |
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backtomn (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:13 PM Response to Reply #131 |
151. Actually......he is saying that it IS about the gays |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:17 PM Response to Reply #151 |
152. you have a valid point, I do not argue that (about the guy), but I'm saying, even if what he's doing |
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backtomn (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:22 PM Response to Reply #152 |
154. I say "no"..... |
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backtomn (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:29 PM Response to Reply #152 |
155. Would love to hear more about what you think |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 09:24 PM Response to Reply #155 |
237. thank you! same to you. |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 03:23 PM Response to Reply #114 |
223. As my brother says, he supports the troops but not the war. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-10 04:45 AM Response to Reply #114 |
278. "Anti-current US military" is not "anti-military". |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-10 09:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
281. There is a third type, those that leak for revenge |
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cosmicone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 06:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. +1 nt |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
30. And your concern for the hundreds of thousands we have killed? |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 10:18 AM Response to Reply #30 |
42. My concern? They were human beings killed with my tax dollars |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:01 PM Response to Reply #42 |
145. Exactly.. I will not pay Taxes that go for Wars. |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 10:16 AM Response to Reply #145 |
200. Taxes are fungible, like oil. I checked and your taxes are paying |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #200 |
263. It doesn't matter, the Fed will just print more to make up for it. |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
65. I think you misread his post. n/t |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #30 |
79. I think the comment agrees with you. At least that's how I |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #30 |
104. never mind - my lack or reading comprehension. nt |
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backtomn (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:18 PM Response to Reply #30 |
153. Kill more to save more.......logical |
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cprise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 03:58 AM Response to Reply #153 |
194. I would say |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 03:39 PM Response to Reply #153 |
226. Okay 10's of thousands. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
37. Sure is disgusting. nt |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
67. What's really disgusting is |
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burnsei sensei (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
255. Don't flatter yourself that you know |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 03:55 AM Response to Original message |
2. Makes sense |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 04:21 AM Response to Original message |
3. well, if his insurance is meant to "blackmail" in order to secure |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 04:35 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. The American public is shock-proof nowadays and Gravel retired. |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
35. rangel deserves no such credit. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 10:25 AM Response to Reply #35 |
45. Right! A Draft will CAUSE more Wars. People are too easily cowed; there won't be enough of them |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 07:06 AM Response to Reply #35 |
247. Not borne out by history? Vietnam ended much sooner than Afghanistan |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 10:21 AM Response to Reply #4 |
43. If the draft hadn't been abolished, it would have died by exemptions. |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #43 |
59. hmm... |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:01 AM Response to Reply #3 |
27. maybe his "insurance" is intended to make certain |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 04:37 AM Response to Original message |
5. He wouldn't need to distribute the key. |
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stuart68 (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
63. Are you serious ? |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 04:47 AM Response to Original message |
6. The informat names being released are either a lie or the Militarys fault- |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
82. It is sloppy, assuming they did include that information. |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 06:36 AM Response to Original message |
8. Eeeks! I accidently unrec'd this one! Please add 2 to the total. |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
80. Added. I wasn't going to+. (nt) |
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CLANG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
160. Thanks for reminding me to rec!! |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 06:42 AM Response to Original message |
9. recommend |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 06:45 AM Response to Original message |
10. Interesting. |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
12. How long before the government starts leaking false information to wikileaks? |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 07:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I'm sure they have been for a long time. Standard disinformation stuff. |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 08:50 AM Response to Reply #12 |
23. That's why wikileaks spends a lot of time confirming the info they release. nt |
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seattleblue (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
101. Yeah, they are really going to be able to confirm 93,000 pages |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 04:26 PM Response to Reply #101 |
110. People kept asking for months why it was taking them so long to process the pages. |
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seattleblue (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. So they went to Afghanistan and checked out the 93,000 pages and all the sources. |
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lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 10:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
46. Bingo.... Correct. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 01:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
85. Julian Assange spoke about that in an interview recently. |
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another saigon (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
15. at this point who would believe any Military Statement? |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
16. When does he get to leak the bank accounts and SS # of Americans? |
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Boxerfan (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 08:33 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Ohhhh Kaaaayyyy...You think he didn't know what was in the files? |
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BakedAtAMileHigh (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 08:41 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. you need greater reading comprehension |
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FedUp_Queer (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #19 |
109. In fact... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 08:42 AM Response to Reply #16 |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 08:44 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. The government already does this. Here's just one example: |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 10:49 AM Response to Reply #21 |
51. Many years ago I had a student intern job |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:00 AM Response to Reply #16 |
25. That's impressive, even by your standards. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:31 AM Response to Reply #16 |
31. you have no clue what wikileaks is about. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 10:23 AM Response to Reply #31 |
44. Assange has attacked individuals before |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 08:21 PM Response to Reply #31 |
139. Tell the families in Afghanistan that they are just hypothetical. It's |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:50 AM Response to Reply #16 |
36. even for you, a vapid comment |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #36 |
116. Nah, about average as far as that one goes. nt |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
86. He never said he didn't know what was in the files. In fact, |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 01:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
217. Just after he starts selling child porn, I guess. |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
227. It doesn't say he doesn't know what in the files, but your reading comprehension explains everything |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
264. Gosh, it sounds like you have a real in-depth understanding of WikiLeaks. |
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jimmil (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
22. The biggest secrets leaked are... |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
24. Well, duh. He's on more hit lists than the pope! It is the next logical step. |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
26. Shrewd move |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
28. BTW, what a great way to get everybody and their brother to download the file. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:32 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. That's a very good point. |
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democrat2thecore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #28 |
73. You probably just solved the mystery |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 01:44 PM Response to Reply #28 |
87. And here's the grabber... |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #87 |
94. Brute-forcing it ain't gonna happen |
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Towlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 07:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
130. You can get the file in just a few minutes with a Torrent file from Pirate Bay. |
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democrat2thecore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 01:56 AM Response to Reply #130 |
187. The one with THOUSANDS of seeders on The Pirate Bay is legitimate |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 01:58 PM Response to Reply #187 |
254. That's right: Someone has to be entrusted with the key in the event Assange is picked up/arrested. |
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Swagman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
29. anyone heard if there is a defence fund the 'leaker' / hero? |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 11:21 AM Response to Reply #29 |
57. Here it is.... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
33. All of you who are interested in this issue should read the 1970s book |
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lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 10:11 AM Response to Reply #33 |
41. Good Point. We need to start asking more questisons... |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 12:00 PM Response to Reply #41 |
60. That's exactly what I've been pondering. The MIC is positioned |
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lib2DaBone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #60 |
72. I WANT to believe that this guy is a Daniel Ellsberg... |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #72 |
81. I believe Julian is |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 08:06 PM Response to Reply #72 |
138. You forgot one: they lied about 9/11... n/t |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 10:31 AM Response to Reply #33 |
47. thank you |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #33 |
53. I've often said that the government |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 07:45 PM Response to Reply #33 |
134. Also, The Secret History of the C.I.A. - excellent in the way it showed hou the corporation, |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
34. kick |
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CJvR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
39. Blackmail? |
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voteearlyvoteoften (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
40. go assange! |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
48. Why would this be "prosecutable" and the outing of Valerie Plame is not? nt |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 10:48 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Damned good point. n/t |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #50 |
58. Increased "grave threat to the security of the U.S." is much clearer when we're talking about a WMD |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #48 |
88. Assange is not Dick Cheney? |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 04:33 PM Response to Reply #48 |
112. Assange isn't American n/t |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
49. Whoa! I just began a fan! This guy has BALLS! I love that. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
52. This man is so savvy |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 01:28 PM Response to Reply #52 |
84. 'drama queen?' |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 08:57 PM Response to Reply #84 |
143. Sorry, Drama King just doesn't have the same connotation |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 10:28 PM Response to Reply #143 |
163. I rather like 'drama prince' myself. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 06:41 AM Response to Reply #163 |
195. I expect every whistleblower feels burned and there are plenty who |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 11:46 AM Response to Reply #163 |
208. The gender-neutral "dramallama" is more fun to say. (nt) |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-10 05:02 AM Response to Reply #208 |
280. ROFL @ dramallama |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
54. He is doing what I've always said anyone in possession |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
55. And the truth shall set you free; Never has an old wisdom |
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Brooklyns_Finest (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
56. Nobody Cares |
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lib_wit_it (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #56 |
96. In fact, the video In question was a freakin' snuff tape that had more than a few RWers creaming |
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stuart68 (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
61. I hope he is smart enough to know that encryption is a joke |
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Deadgnome (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. I am pretty sure |
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stuart68 (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 12:18 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Maybe that is what he expected |
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Prisoner_Number_Six (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #61 |
69. He's not IN the US. |
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stuart68 (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Not sure why that matters. |
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Prisoner_Number_Six (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #71 |
99. You mentioned US encryption back doors |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:02 PM Response to Reply #99 |
146. The NSA hires the best, there in no elliptical encryption |
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democrat2thecore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #61 |
74. That's false. There are encrypted drives the govt has not been able to decrypt |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. +1 |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #74 |
103. CIA campus has a sculpture... |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 10:54 PM Response to Reply #74 |
165. unable or unwilling? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 01:33 AM Response to Reply #165 |
183. No, mathematically impossible using known methods. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #183 |
236. Same thing was said about DES in its day.. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 03:55 AM Response to Reply #236 |
244. We doubted computational progress. |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 01:02 PM Response to Reply #61 |
76. I don't know a single white hat hacker who uses only government approved software. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #61 |
77. LOL, right |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #77 |
100. As a serious answer: |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #61 |
91. Yes, I'm sure that he made sure to use an algorithm that was approved by the US government. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #91 |
98. He did, actually. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #61 |
95. It's AES, based on Rijndael. It was developed in Belgium. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:04 PM Response to Reply #95 |
147. Can they tell you how many cores the NSA has? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 12:24 AM Response to Reply #147 |
175. It's really a cost issue, WRT NSA cores. |
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democrat2thecore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 02:03 AM Response to Reply #175 |
188. With the file that big - it's another video and my theory (inside) |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 02:15 AM Response to Reply #188 |
191. The uncertainty *is* the insurance. |
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democrat2thecore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 02:44 AM Response to Reply #191 |
192. Exactly! -nt |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 05:36 PM Response to Reply #61 |
117. nonsense |
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stuart68 (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 03:17 PM Response to Reply #117 |
220. it's based on how you generate random numbers |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #220 |
252. so use a different random number generator |
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Towlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 06:51 PM Response to Reply #61 |
126. Those smart enough to know encryption know that YOU are a joke. |
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stuart68 (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 08:29 PM Response to Reply #126 |
141. Thanks - you smart folks |
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Towlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 12:17 AM Response to Reply #141 |
174. WE'RE kidding ourselves? YOU said "The US only allows encryption algorithms that have a back door." |
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stuart68 (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 07:32 AM Response to Reply #174 |
197. Thanks |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 11:36 AM Response to Reply #197 |
206. In this case it's a safe bet that they don't |
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stuart68 (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #206 |
210. unless, of course, there is a backdoor key of some sort |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #210 |
211. Do you know anything at all about encryption? |
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stuart68 (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 12:51 PM Response to Reply #211 |
212. I do know a little about it |
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stuart68 (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #211 |
216. it relates to Dual_EC_DRBG |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-10 04:58 AM Response to Reply #210 |
279. 'how is it"? |
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Towlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #197 |
213. That's about the most vivid example of a straw man argument that I've ever heard! |
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stuart68 (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #213 |
214. So AES256 incorporates Dual_EC_DRBG |
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Towlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 09:50 PM Response to Reply #214 |
238. I understand what you're saying. Here's some more info to combine with what you know: |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 09:58 PM Response to Reply #238 |
269. OpenSSL FAQ: |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-10 03:39 AM Response to Reply #269 |
276. Every good AES implementation attempts to get random data from the device it runs on. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-10 04:40 AM Response to Reply #276 |
277. There's a deeper issue at play |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-04-10 04:17 AM Response to Reply #276 |
282. But hey, *any* doubt is assumed to be crackable! |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-03-10 03:31 AM Response to Reply #214 |
275. HAHAHA, no credible AES implemention uses a PRNG. |
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democrat2thecore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 01:51 AM Response to Reply #61 |
185. W H A T ???????? "US only allows encryption algorithms that have a back door" That is WRONG -nt |
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stuart68 (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 01:28 PM Response to Reply #185 |
215. the algorithm in question |
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democrat2thecore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 03:33 PM Response to Reply #215 |
225. But he could have used any of the other algorithms |
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stuart68 (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 04:38 PM Response to Reply #225 |
231. yes, but the NIST used core pieces recommended by NSA |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 04:37 AM Response to Reply #231 |
245. The Rijndael S-box (initial seed hash, if you will), is designed to be resistant to attack. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #61 |
218. You fail Math forever. -nt |
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stuart68 (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #218 |
219. educate yourself as to the NSAs input... |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #219 |
229. Educate yourself as to how cryptography works |
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stuart68 (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 04:33 PM Response to Reply #229 |
230. I have |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 01:51 PM Response to Reply #230 |
253. no, you haven't |
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Deadgnome (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
62. This guy |
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democrat2thecore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 01:49 AM Response to Reply #62 |
184. I agree he's probably the safest man in the world right now |
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dadzilla (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
64. Perhaps the only person in the world safe frpm the CIA |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
70. Keep leaking the secrets! |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
75. Assange looks like he could use some Z's. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 02:00 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Pretty sure this is the torch passing. (nt) |
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1American (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
92. WikiLeak |
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BakedAtAMileHigh (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Julian Assange Stole My Visa Card & Used It To Buy Online Porn, Honey, I swear! |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 02:58 PM Response to Reply #92 |
102. He's an admitted ex-hacker. |
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arikara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 05:51 PM Response to Reply #92 |
118. nt just... |
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gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 06:19 PM Response to Reply #92 |
123. You're funny! |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 06:37 PM Response to Reply #92 |
124. You're so cute! n/t |
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Towlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 06:47 PM Response to Reply #92 |
125. Please supply attributions with your Fox News quotes. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 07:45 PM Response to Reply #92 |
133. I'm not aware of him hacking into any websites. |
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Ohio Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
108. Pretty meaningless |
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davidwparker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
113. Good for him. Bravo. |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
120. support him by running tor relay, it takes all of 1 minute to setup |
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AlabamaLibrul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 10:16 AM Response to Reply #120 |
201. As someone who is just a layman when it comes to networking, |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
127. I can't blame the MIC for wanting to 'shut him up'. Bodyparts are bad PR |
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faceit (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
140. Truth has a way of always coming out.... |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 11:37 PM Response to Reply #140 |
171. That assumes people care. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
144. AES 256 would take the NSA how long to walk through. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 10:50 PM Response to Reply #144 |
164. It's what big chunks of the US military *uses* |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #164 |
167. That assumes they dont have his machine before he encrypted it.. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #167 |
169. I don't think it matters whether the NSA can open it or not |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 11:27 PM Response to Reply #169 |
170. It assumes the public cares. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 12:56 AM Response to Reply #170 |
177. I'm not speculating about what's in it and the impact it may have |
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BrightKnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 01:02 AM Response to Reply #170 |
178. . |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 01:09 AM Response to Reply #144 |
181. Your math is wrong. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 08:12 PM Response to Reply #181 |
235. Yep, assumes they have not already solved it |
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Q3JR4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
150. Good on you Mr. Assange. |
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PatrynXX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
159. Nothing like reading comments about the "founder" |
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pmorlan1 (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
166. Great Post |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 11:01 PM Response to Reply #166 |
168. If they do, what do you think will happen? 7 day cycle, move on. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-31-10 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
172. K & R for truth! |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
173. Interview with Julian Assange on Democracy Now |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
176. Anybody ever heard of a Trojan horse? |
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BrightKnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
179. Trying to blackmail the CIA doesn't sound like a good plan. |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 01:24 AM Response to Reply #179 |
182. The Harry Golden Rule: |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
180. Why did we go to war in Afghan? Because 3000 people were murdered supposedly by AL Que ada |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-02-10 11:42 AM Response to Reply #180 |
249. +10000 |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
186. THE INSURANCE HAS JUST NOW BEEN FULLY DECODED!! |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 02:06 AM Response to Reply #186 |
189. Of course! Even a caveman could do it. |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 06:31 PM Response to Reply #189 |
233. Thank you for getting it |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 02:49 AM Response to Reply #186 |
193. SPAM WARNING, link in post 186 above takes you to Geico's website |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 08:51 AM Response to Reply #193 |
198. It's a joke? |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 06:29 PM Response to Reply #193 |
232. Lighten up a ilittle |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 02:15 AM Response to Original message |
190. why didn't this happen when bush was in office? |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 10:49 AM Response to Reply #190 |
203. I remember plenty of leaks in the 2001-2009 period. Just a few |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #203 |
207. Also, this guy might have simply not had this stuff yet. (nt) |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
196. Would they please leak Cheney's energy meetings |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
209. Uh, guys? |
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chatnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-01-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #209 |
228. I still see the 1.4GB file up on the site... |
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